Hauls of Shame - Who is Peter Nash?

[slidekellyslide]

Let's stop talking about music in this thread and keep it on track please.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Let's stop talking about music in this thread and keep it on track please.

To explain further this means that Dan wants

more Blood, Sweat & Tears

instead of

more Blood, Sweat & Tears,

I think.

Disclaimer: Wrong era and genre, but so I am.

[Rich Klein]

but because the music background is how Peter did make his money, discussion about his music (and other music) is fine in this thread. There is fascinating reading about Peter but unless he comes and says something (doubtful) we're gong to talk about his songs. No real harm, no real foul

Couple more links to songs about judges

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rdF7o08KXw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4GMUlCBgd0 -- I like this version as the guilt is admitted

Rich

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

but because the music background is how Peter did make his money, discussion about his music (and other music) is fine in this thread. There is fascinating reading about Peter but unless he comes and says something (doubtful) we're gong to talk about his songs. No real harm, no real foul

Couple more links to songs about judges

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rdF7o08KXw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4GMUlCBgd0 -- I like this version as the guilt is admitted

Rich

No Rich, If a moderator says lets get back on track then we should get back on track. I do agree that Peter's music was brought into this by the OP so that is probably ok, but other music should be for another thread, (especially now since a moderator has asked to get back on subject).

[benjulmag]

Originally Posted by Leon

No Rich, If a moderator says lets get back on track then we should get back on track. I do agree that Peter's music was brought into this by the OP so that is probably ok, but other music should be for another thread, (especially now since a moderator has asked to get back on subject).

+1

[slidekellyslide]

Yes, we know he was once a famous hip hop artist, but his music is inconsequential to this thread. A man who was threatened, conned and stole from has come to Net54 to lay out his side of the story and I'd like it to stay away from music. For whatever reason Nash still has his fans on this board who want to look past his transgressions and some of these people are lending their services, opinions and knowledge to Nash....some anonymously and some don't mind having their name used as a source. I'd like them to see exactly who they are dealing with. Anyone wanting to talk hip hop is free to use the watercooler section.

[benjulmag]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Yes, we know he was once a famous hip hop artist, but his music is inconsequential to this thread. A man who was threatened, conned and stole from has come to Net54 to lay out his side of the story and I'd like it to stay away from music. For whatever reason Nash still has his fans on this board who want to look past his transgressions and some of these people are lending their services, opinions and knowledge to Nash....some anonymously and some don't mind having their name used as a source. I'd like them to see exactly who they are dealing with. Anyone wanting to talk hip hop is free to use the watercooler section.

+1

[Rich Klein]

The music discussion is important on a general level to understand some of Pete's motives.

One important characteristic of the modern "hip-hip" era is a denial of responsibility when something goes wrong. That is true of non-singers as well. Look at all of the professional athletes who come up with the great excuses when they are caught with a positive drug test

In the hip-hop and rap culture fostered in the early 1990's by groups such as 3rd Base, that same natural selection of "I'm famous, you can not touch me" began.

I don't think we can argue that Peter is a devoted baseball fan and a very dedicated researcher in baseball history and the memorabilia. There is also very little doubt that Peter, as Leon posted in a great thread in the Autograph area, even when found accountable in a court of law has never honored any of those decisions. Leon, to his credit, has and that is a major difference between these two people. I'd use men but that would be an insult to Leon to put Nash in the same league as him.

The fact is we have someone who is willing to come out and sign his name (a rule in this board) to a possibily ignitable thread. The other fact is we know what we are dealing with when it comes to Peter's background and not much can be added.

I will also note that despite my repeated comments -- the Last Names were not added. as per board rules on this thread

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=174608

I see that in a thread that calls out a dealer by name for trimming and has gone in many directions the full names are still not added to the thread. Me thinks a little moderation on certain subjects might help


And note, despite the earlier comments, the full names were not put in this thread either

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...=174881&page=2

Regards
Rich

[MattyC]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

One important characteristic of the modern "hip-hip" era is a denial of responsibility when something goes wrong.
Rich

Professor,

Thanks for imparting your deep knowledge (or is it just a sweeping generalization?) of the hip hop era. I surmise you came to this epiphany by listening to tons of KRS?

The denial of responsibility is an individual choice, not a trait of fans of a specific type of music. One could just as easily argue the denial of responsibility was alive and well in the stoner ethos of the 70's.

You also said:

"In the hip-hop and rap culture fostered in the early 1990's by groups such as 3rd Base, that same natural selection of "I'm famous, you can not touch me" began. "

Awkward phrasing aside (natural selection?), the famous began feeling untouchable long before 1990.

[Cardboard Junkie]

"One important characteristic of the modern 'hip hop' era is a denial of responsibility when something goes wrong." Rich Klein (DICK)
-1

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Yes, we know he was once a famous hip hop artist, but his music is inconsequential to this thread. A man who was threatened, conned and stole from has come to Net54 to lay out his side of the story and I'd like it to stay away from music. For whatever reason Nash still has his fans on this board who want to look past his transgressions and some of these people are lending their services, opinions and knowledge to Nash....some anonymously and some don't mind having their name used as a source. I'd like them to see exactly who they are dealing with. Anyone wanting to talk hip hop is free to use the watercooler section.

Big +1

[travrosty]

The thread was a bust so it needed moderator intervention.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by travrosty

The thread was a bust.

Sort of like your below "deflection" thread, Travis...

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=174807