What NY Yankee should be in the HOF?

[quinnsryche]

I know there are alot already, but what Yankee should be in the Hall of Fame that isn't? Leave out Jeter, Mariano, Randy Johnson and Joe Torre as they will all be in for sure. Provide whatever stats or history to plead your case if you like. I would like to see Bob Meusel and Urban Shocker in.

[jthorst75]

Easy, Thurman Munson. No stats/history needed.

[chris6net]

Originally Posted by jthorst75

Easy, Thurman Munson. No stats/history needed.

As someone who saw Munson play during his whole career I don,t know how you can say Easy for him to be a HOFer. He only had about 5 really good years and falls short of being a Hofer

[Peter_Spaeth]

Bob Meusel played 11 years batted .309 with 1600 plus hits. Statistically on baseball reference he is rated the 82nd best rightfielder of all time. Why would you like to see him in.

[Kenny Cole]

I would be more inclined to say Urban Shocker than Munson or Meusel, but I think that the Yankees are already vastly overrepresented.

[Al C.risafulli]

Last I checked, there were 13 third basemen in the Hall of Fame, and Graig Nettles was a better player than several of them. Nettles played in an era when offensive stats were depressed in general, and he was one of the game's better offensive players. His defense was magnificent, and if his career hadn't overlapped Brooks Robinson's, he would have won far more than one Gold Glove.

Ultimately he gets a raw deal because his career doesn't include the kind of cheap stats that most HOF voters look for (high batting average, number of awards, etc), but statistically, he's one of the best players to ever play his position.

-Al

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Al C.risafulli

Last I checked, there were 13 third basemen in the Hall of Fame, and Graig Nettles was a better player than several of them. Nettles played in an era when offensive stats were depressed in general, and he was one of the game's better offensive players. His defense was magnificent, and if his career hadn't overlapped Brooks Robinson's, he would have won far more than one Gold Glove.

Ultimately he gets a raw deal because his career doesn't include the kind of cheap stats that most HOF voters look for (high batting average, number of awards, etc), but statistically, he's one of the best players to ever play his position.

-Al

Nettles should get in on the basis of fighting Reggie Jackson at the team's victory party.

[CW]

Originally Posted by Al C.risafulli

Last I checked, there were 13 third basemen in the Hall of Fame, and Graig Nettles was a better player than several of them. Nettles played in an era when offensive stats were depressed in general, and he was one of the game's better offensive players. His defense was magnificent, and if his career hadn't overlapped Brooks Robinson's, he would have won far more than one Gold Glove.

Ultimately he gets a raw deal because his career doesn't include the kind of cheap stats that most HOF voters look for (high batting average, number of awards, etc), but statistically, he's one of the best players to ever play his position.

-Al

He was the man when it came to robbing hitters of shots like this one....

[cyseymour]

Originally Posted by Al C.risafulli

Last I checked, there were 13 third basemen in the Hall of Fame, and Graig Nettles was a better player than several of them. Nettles played in an era when offensive stats were depressed in general, and he was one of the game's better offensive players. His defense was magnificent, and if his career hadn't overlapped Brooks Robinson's, he would have won far more than one Gold Glove.

Ultimately he gets a raw deal because his career doesn't include the kind of cheap stats that most HOF voters look for (high batting average, number of awards, etc), but statistically, he's one of the best players to ever play his position.

-Al

+1

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by Al C.risafulli

Last I checked, there were 13 third basemen in the Hall of Fame, and Graig Nettles was a better player than several of them. Nettles played in an era when offensive stats were depressed in general, and he was one of the game's better offensive players. His defense was magnificent, and if his career hadn't overlapped Brooks Robinson's, he would have won far more than one Gold Glove.

Ultimately he gets a raw deal because his career doesn't include the kind of cheap stats that most HOF voters look for (high batting average, number of awards, etc), but statistically, he's one of the best players to ever play his position.

-Al

I think Buddy Bell had just as much to do with Nettles not winning more Gold Gloves, as Brooksie.

[Peter_Spaeth]

I would not vote for Shocker, but (for once) I agree with Kenny that he is the most qualified of the three. Munson was already in decline in terms of power when he died and I don't think his career numbers, even if he hung on for a few more years, would have been worthy of the HOF. Plus, you just can't credit him for what he might have done. Accordingly, he never received more than 15 percent of the vote.

PS I think we romanticize him because he was a Yankee, had a tough personality, and died prematurely. But he ended up with just over 100 HR and 1500 hits. That just doesn't get you into the Hall.

[Jlighter]

Urban Shocker should get in for his name alone.

I think Mattingly could be considered, not winning a championship really hurts him.

[Jlighter]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I would not vote for Shocker, but (for once) I agree with Kenny that he is the most qualified of the three. Munson was already in decline in terms of power when he died and I don't think his career numbers, even if he hung on for a few more years, would have been worthy of the HOF. Plus, you just can't credit him for what he might have done. Accordingly, he never received more than 15 percent of the vote.

PS I think we romanticize him because he was a Yankee, had a tough personality, and died prematurely. But he ended up with just over 100 HR and 1500 hits. That just doesn't get you into the Hall.

Valid points. His Postseason numbers are outstanding though.

[mets41]

if steinbrenner ever makes it to the hof, I'll quit baseball. and who'd ever want to root for the yankees (only the fillies are lower than the yankees on my rooting list).