An inescapable dilema for Lance Armstrong is...

[Leon]

Originally Posted by drc

He will be asked to testify in future court cases, as defendant and/or witness, and will be asked to testify under oath about his PED use. Lying to the general public is one thing, lying in court is another.

And since he's already sued and received money from people and companies based on his claim that he never used PEDs, I bet he's thinking "Uh oh."

Yesterday was another pretty bad day for him. Seems as though he is taking the brunt for what everyone, including he, had been doing for many years. It will be interesting to see if they go after anyone else, legally.

[CMIZ5290]

Despite the rumors and charges potentially facing him, i can help be feel just a bit sad. The money he has helped raise for the fight against cancer is absolutely overwhelming. I truly do wish him well.

[drc]

For years the guy used high priced lawyers to sue and threaten people who he knew were telling the truth. Sorry if I lack sympathy when these actions back to haunt him.

[HRBAKER]

It ain't the cheating but the lying that bothers me the most.
The hubris is astounding, he gets no quarter from my way.

The fact that he is bearing the brunt was wholly brought on by himself and his aggressive in your face and wallet style of denial and deceit. And the fact of course that he was the most successful cheat and an American to boot.

[thescooper]

I hear Armstrong has been stripped of all his titles. Does that mean he is no longer the first man on the moon?

[alanu]

While I don't have much sympathy for Lance Armstrong, the Tour needs to look back at stripping all the dopers for previous titles won. An example is Alberto Cantador who I think won 2 titles before being stripped of his 2010 title for doping.

Another example is Jan Ulrich who won a title and was later banned for doping.

If they are going to go thru so much trouble to go after Armstrong, they need to do just as extensive investigations of all winners, which in my opinion would result in most if not all of the winners of the last several decades being stripped of their titles, if not longer. Blood doping has been around for long time.

With that said, even with all of the doping, I can't help but say I'm always entertained by the tour and the amazing feat of the cyclists just to finish.

[laughlinfan]

I think I heard yesterday that of the 21 top three finishers in the 7 years he won the Tour, 20 of them have been implicated of using PEDs. Sadly, with so much money at stake, I think the bigger race is between the chemists and the testers, and it seems as though the testers are destined to be years behind.

[frankbmd]

When I was ill and not working several years ago (not sure which year), I watched the Tour. For several days in a row the previous days leader was disqualified for PEDs or somesuch and a new leader was named. It was difficult to sustain interest in the competitive aspect of the race, but.........

the scenery was beautiful. The chateaus and castles are awesome.

I have some Lance Armstrong 1992 Olympic Rookie Cards available. That's my dilemma.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by laughlinfan

I think I heard yesterday that of the 21 top three finishers in the 7 years he won the Tour, 20 of them have been implicated of using PEDs. Sadly, with so much money at stake, I think the bigger race is between the chemists and the testers, and it seems as though the testers are destined to be years behind.

Some of my cycling friends here on the board will disagree with me on this, and I certainly respect their opinions, but this sport got to a point where anyone who was serious about winning HAD to cheat in order to compete with the other cheaters. I'm not condoning it, just saying that according to ...the cheaters... the great but clean athletes weren't capable of making the leader board. And if you hear a 'clean' athlete say that this isn't true, there's a good chance that he's actually just another cheater who hasn't been caught yet. Sad state of affairs.

Who let the sport get to that point? Is it still there? Catching Lance (and others) doesn't mean the sport is now squeaky clean.