Can't slab--only one known?

[Matthew H]

E125 is a known issue. Maybe they just haven't seen one of the cash clothing cards

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by Matthew H

E125 is a known issue. Maybe they just haven't seen one of the cash clothing cards

I just assumed he meant there was no Johnson exemplar

[glchen]

There have been unique postcards that have been slabbed I think.

[packs]

Maybe they can't verify that it isn't a fantasy piece. Have you verified that there was a Cash Clothing Store in Sedgwick, Colorado?

[Deertick]

Originally Posted by packs

Maybe they can't verify that it isn't a fantasy piece. Have you verified that there was a Cash Clothing Store in Sedgwick, Colorado?

Haven't found anything on The Clothing Store, but verified and Ira Dobson b.1866, resided in Sedgwick, Summit Co, Colorado in 1910. About the age to be a proprieter, no?

http://files.usgwarchives.net/co/sed...dgwick-a-l.txt

[jim]

Have you tried to get PSA to slab it?

[glchen]

Originally Posted by jim

Have you tried to get PSA to slab it?

PSA would not slab it. They are even more stringent than SGC and will only slab cards that are in the Standard Catalog or something equivalent.

Any business even back then was registered. So if you can't find proof of existence of a clothing store then I would lean towards fantasy piece well done and neat looking. BTW isn't that pose from an exhibit?

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by Pup6913

Any business even back then was registered. So if you can't find proof of existence of a clothing store then I would lean towards fantasy piece well done and neat looking. BTW isn't that pose from an exhibit?

Registered with whom? But you're on the right track--enough research, perhaps just a phone book, should reveal the existence of the Cash Clothing Store. Of course, what would that really prove, as a smart forger would certainly use a known entity for his concoction? Nobody with any experience seeing this card close up would need anybody else to tell them it's real and vintage, and for that reason I'm not concerned about whether it appears in the auction slabbed or not. In fact, I would use the fact that none of the TPAs could slab it for lack of another known example as a plus, showing that it could, indeed, be a true one-of-a-kind. I just find it strange that TPAs can never authenticate that kind of rarity, but I guess they have good reasons for that. BTW, I've seen this same artwork on two different pieces, a Crack-A-Jack uniforms salesman's sample book page and this one, cut out from a Faithorn Company (Chicago) calendar issued in 1912

[71buc]

The artist is likely J.C Leyendecker. He was active during Johnson's era and specialized in Advertising art relating to men's fashion. Legendary auctions (see below) sold an item with the same image as part of a fabric catalog circa 1910. Whatever it is, it is very attractive example of baseball and advertising art from one of my favorite American illustrators congratulations on a great pick up and good luck with it.

http://www.americanartarchives.com/leyendecker,jc.htm

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Lot...px?lotid=45003

[Batter67up]

I went through the same issue in 2009 with the card below as both PSA and SGC had never seen it. I had to provide them information from a book from 1990 to show them details on it and it still took 3 weeks for them to decide to give it an Authentic Grade and a date of 1920's c. They would not give it a numeric grade even though the book provided specifications on the card. The book also showed this as a 1919 card. I did get some assistance from Dan McKee as he has a similiar card and provided pictures to them of it. Rob Lifson also gave me a call about the card and said it was authentic and he actually owned one back in the 70's and hadn't seen one since.

[Deertick]

Haven't I seen that they slabbed a generic "Trade Card" before? I agree, there should be a way for them to slab it Authentic without attribution to a specific run. Maybe they can't even pinpoint decade?