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From the 60's, when I started paying attention to baseball, through to the first few years of the 21st century, I thought that Gehrig's 23 was unassailable. Then I had a bit of doubt. ARod is a worthy successor.
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I think a well rounded collection should have both a nice Walter Johnson and a nice Greg Maddux....
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Its a great acomplishment and I to thought that this record would never be broken! Hats off to A-Rod
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He isn't and will never be a Yankee......
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I think that the only "un-assailable" record in the books is Joe DiMaggio's 56-game hitting streak. The way the game is played nowadays, I do not see it ever being tied or surpassed. TED Z |
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ARod used steroids.
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the record he set tonight is stained with steroids
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Quite the feat
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Thought Manny had it easy, but he broke down faster than I expected
Hats off to Arod |
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Although I am Not an ARod Hater...
Lou did it with the Babe in Front of Him! However, Tieing Lou Gehrig under any conditions is still "BRILLIANT". I Love this Game...
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Sorry. No "Hat's Off "to Alex Rodriguez. A user. He is a disgrace. This is why I collect pre-WW2 cards. As the years go by I get increasingly disenchanted with baseball of today. I could ramble on about Lou. CLASS. Him tying this record disgusts me.
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Fortunately for Gehrig, his record will stand in the eyes of common sense and fairness, and reality. He didn't need to take PED's to hit any of his 23 grand slams.
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While i am not as much against the steroid players as most people are, i do agree that setting a career record when you played many years on steroids makes it totally tainted. To me, Gehrig has the "clean" record, and A-Rod has the "steroid era" record. Since they are both Yankees, we now own TWO records!!
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A Rod 23*
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So did all the pitchers from that era.
It seems much more likely to me that Dimaggio's record is broken than Ripken's or Young's. All it takes is a 57-game fluke and the record is broken. For the other two, it takes years upon years of consistent consecutive games or wins. Ripken's could probably be broken, but no way will Young's record be broken unless the entire way modern baseball is played changes. Last edited by Brendan; 06-13-2012 at 12:48 AM. |
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Ripken also played in over 8,000 consecutive innings, although I'm not sure if they know if that's a record.
With Ryan's 5,714 K's, that's 300 for 19 years I personally think it's more likely Dimaggio's hit streak will be broken than Ripken's consecutive game streak or Ryan's strikeout record. |
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A-Fraud should never be mentioned in the same breath as Gehrig....UNLESS the statement is something like: Lou Gehrig must be going nuts having to watch A-Fraud apply his purple lipstick."
You get the idea. |
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Originally Posted by drc
ARod used steroids. Well that makes it ok then. |
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any player who used and admitted he used steroids should not be allowed (sorry) into the hof and acoplishments should not registered through that time they used.
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A-Rod matching Gehrig's 23 Grand Slams is a bit ho hum. I think anything ARod does is tarnished so its kind of like Bonds passing Aaron's all Time HR mark.. big deal.. It aggravates me a bit to even mention known juicers with Hall of Famers!!!
For what its worth, I think the ONLY unassailable mlb record is Cy Young's 511 wins. Think about it this way... A pitcher could win 20 games a year, 20 years in a row and he would still be 111 wins shy of Cy Young! CRAZY!
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I would add Nolan Ryan's 5 zillion strikeouts
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Don't forget Cy Young's 511 wins.
Its hard enough for a pitcher to win 20 these days. And if a pitcher won 20 games in 25 consecutive seasons, he'd still be 11 short |
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Also don't forget Cal Ripken Jr.'s 2632 consecutive games. I believe all other records will be broken eventually but i don't see Cal's record ever being broken. There will always be better players hitting homeruns or getting strikeouts but to stay healthy and not miss any games for nearly your whole baseball career, 17 years, is just unlikely to happen again. Many players don't even play professional baseball long enough to even come close.
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Johnny Vander Meer's back-to-back No Hitters in 1938. To break that record, someone needs to throw 3 No Hitters. Talk about an-assailable!!
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I am less bothered by the steroid era than some. It's just the way it was at that time. It was different before and it is different after. I completely understand if you wish to be outraged.
Here's one thing to ponder. After DiMaggio's 56 game streak was stopped by two great plays by Kenny Kelter, we rattled off another streak of 35 game or so. Let's say his hit streak would have been extended to 92. I would propose that had that happened we might see hit streaks in the mid-60s on a fairly regular basis. |
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As far as unbreakable records, I'll take 110 shutouts.
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I know things were different then, but if we're talking about Cy Young's 511 wins as untouchable, then Ol' Hoss Radbourn's 1884 season makes Cy's total look mundane.
A 59-12 record, 678 innings and 441 strikeouts - even for that era those numbers are insane! For Facebook users, someone posts as Ol' Hoss, commenting on sports of today. Some of the posts are hysterical. https://www.facebook.com/OldHossRadbourn |
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not every player used steroids in that era look at griffey jr and jeter and they are some of the greatest ever.
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