O/T Santana throws no hitter !!!!

pgellis · #1 06-02-2012, 06:50 PM

Just explain to me how a five walk, no hit game is any better than a 1 hit, no walk , or 2 hit no walk game? Those happen every other week! Pitchers will issue walks on command instead of challenging good hitters. A 5 walk, no hitter doesn't mean much to me.

And no, I am not still bitter about 1986.............Johan was not on the 86 Mets.

rc4157 · #2 06-02-2012, 07:04 PM

To me the bottom line is it was a "no hitter". You won't see too many headlines for a superbly pitched game with no walks, even if it is a great pitching performance. The no hitter will be recorded forever in the history books for future baseball fans to enjoy.
RC

packs · #3 06-02-2012, 10:29 PM

I don't understand the argument that a 1 or 2 hitter is more impressive than a no hitter. It seems like you'd have to just not like a guy.

FrankWakefield · #4 06-02-2012, 10:58 PM

When I've read about Mathewson pitching, sometimes he'd coast along and actually allow a hit or two. Sometimes he'd pitch around someone and let them walk, late in the game, with no one on, just to avoid letting the guy get a hit,or a double... I think even today, some pitchers don't get too torn up over a walk, because they're pitching all over the black of the plate and nowhere else. I recall some games John Tudor pitched, when he'd throw the ball everywhere other than down the middle. So Phil, that's one way why a no hitter with 5 walks can be better than a one hit no walk game.

I saw Mario Soto a pitch away from a no hitter in Cincy. He had a 1-0 lead in the 9th, 2 out, George Hendrick batting for the Cardinals. My recollection is that Soto quickly got 2 strikes on Silent George, then he threw up and in with Hendrick staggering back. He stepped back in, pushed his helmet down on his head, and stood with that back foot a bit past where the back of the batter's box used to be. Hendrick lined the next pitch down the left field line, barely over the fence, a clothes line shot. The air went out of the park. Reds got a run in the 9th for a 2-1 win, Soto got a complete game win and I think it was a 1 hitter...

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