What We Have Learned About Ty Cobbs With a Ty Cobb Back

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04-12-2010, 03:36 PM

canjond

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Abravefan11

Dumb question:

If F.R. Penn produced the Ty Cobb brand tobacco in 1910 and ATC didn't take over F.R. Penn until 1912...does that mean anything?

Yes and no... I actually have in my notes that ATC acquired F.R. Penn in 1903, and didn't fully transition it until 1912. Don't forget, this was the time when ATC was being broken up as a trust. There were many smaller brands owned and operated by ATC without full disclosure as to the breadth of ATC's holdings.

Assuming, for a minute, that ATC did not acquire F.R. Penn in 1903, the reason I still answered "yes and no" relates to when the card was issued in the product. If F.R. Penn controlled Ty Cobb in 1910, sold the brand to ATC in 1912, and then the Cobb card was produced in 1912, the date wouldn't matter per se (although I recognize that 1912 no longer puts the Cobb back in the T206 era).

That all being said, I'm pretty confident F.R. Penn was acquired in 1903.

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