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Old 01-07-2022, 03:13 PM
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Default Leland's Idea of a Complete T206 Set

I normally don't call out auction houses, but I inquired about this Tuesday at noon and I have not gotten a satisfactory or accurate response. So in the absence of a timely and acceptable response, I feel justified in advising the forum of what I believe is an incorrect Lot description.

Lot #4 in Leland's Mint Auction (banner immediately above and link below) boasts a "T206 Baseball Card Complete Set Minus Honus Wagner" and in the description describes the Lot as "near set offered here is missing only the elusive Honus Wagner rarity for completion. Coming in at 523 cards....." https://auction.lelands.com/bids/bidplace?itemid=107787

I saw that and thought - Wow, they are selling a Joe Doyle NY Nat'l (which would be even more crazy since there are only 9 and Mile High is soon selling one). However, in reading the description, I see no reference to the Doyle. So, I emailed their info email and asked if there is a Doyle, and if not, what is the 523rd card?

The response: "The Doyle is not normally considered part of the set of 524."

I replied that I disagreed, pointing out that the PSA registry includes the Doyle in its complete 524 set registry and the hobby widely regards a complete set as 520, but a totally complete set to include the "Big 4": Wagner, Doyle NY Nat'l, Plank, Magie error. I again inquired that if there is no Doyle, what do they consider the 523rd card. I was told Wednesday morning (after I already sent a follow up reminder email) that the query had been passed on to their card expert, and I have heard nothing since. I wouldn't think getting to the bottom of a 524-card T206 set would take 2+ days for a card expert to figure out, especially with the wide assortment of authorities on the internet (see links below)

The hobby has long regarded a complete 524 T206 set to be the base 520 and the Big 4: Wagner, Doyle NY Nat'l, Plank, Magie Error. Below are a number of articles and checklists that include Doyle as part of the 524 set; this is just a sample, as there are many more on the internet. I found no other source, other than Lelands, that claimed the set to be 524 cards, without one of those cards being the Doyle.

So, apparently Lelands beats to its own drum (no pun intended) when defining a complete 524-card T206 set, a drum that differs from every other authority, yet its not clear what that 523rd card is if its not the Doyle NY Nat'l. Those of you looking at Leland's "T206 Baseball Card Complete Set Minus Honus Wagner", just be advised that you will get 522 normal cards and something else, which is not the Doyle NY Nat'l.

As an aside, its very nice set and a great thing to own. Its just not a 523 set, fact.

https://prewarcards.com/2017/01/06/t...cobb-back/amp/

https://prewarcards.com/2018/10/24/t...tobacco-cards/

https://www.psacard.com/psasetregist.../t206-sets/215

https://www.t206.org

https://www.cardboardconnection.com/...ball-cards/amp

Checklists

https://www.t206.org/dl/T206-Checklist.pdf

https://t206resource.com/Check%20List%20524.html

http://www.t206museum.com/page/ch_reglt.html

https://t206guide.com/T206.pdf

Ryan Hotchkiss
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