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Old 12-14-2021, 10:39 AM
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Any of the "1st Graded" flips on a particular card is very likely to have been accurately graded based on the standards at that time around 2005 or so.

However, even those would not likely cross over at the same grade today with PSA or SGC.

By the same token, they are very unlikely to be trimmed or tampered with as I'm sure Baker himself probably looked at each card with this designation.
This would not be correct. 1st Graded flips referred to the first time the specific card graded in that specific grade. They did not control when cards came in for grading so they were issuing 1st Graded on flips for the entire time they were in business.

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The advise given about cracking it out and resubmitting raw to me is not the way to go unless you have had very good success submitting cards and getting high grades back. Those usually go to the auction houses and high volume dealers who submit thousands of cards per year.

I would rather have a GAI graded 8 than a PSA 5 no matter the card. It may only bring PSA 7 money in an GAI 8 holder but it will bring well above 5 money.
Cracking out really is the only way to go, as I stated above, if Steve has a great eye or someone he knows has a great eye, and can assess if the card is 100% not altered. The grade is subjective however today a PSA 5 would likely sell for more than a GAI 8. I have not seen a GAI 8 sell for PSA 7 money in a very long time. It is entirely possible that none ever have.

As much time as has passed since cards could be submitted to GAI any that are still on the market we have to assume are in those holders, still, for a very good reason. I certainly do not know a single person in the hobby who would leave a card in a GAI holder if they knew the card was 100% good.
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