<div style="display: none;">
<a href="https://117.18.0.18/">https://117.18.0.18/</a>
<a href="https://202.95.10.186/">https://202.95.10.186/</a>
<a href="https://202.95.10.246/">https://202.95.10.246/</a>
<a href="https://ayahqq.com">ayahqq</a>
<a href="https://ayahqq.it.com">ayahqq</a>
<a href="https://klik66.com">klik66</a>
<a href="https://klik66.it.com">klik66</a>
<a href="https://radiofarmacia.org">ayahqq</a>
<a href="https://atendamais.org">klik66</a>
<a href="https://editaefa.com/">ayahqq</a>
<a href="https://nftbomb.org/">klik66</a>
</div>
<div style="display: none;">
  <a href="https://siapdok.id/wp-content/uploads/pkv/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://siapdok.id/wp-content/uploads/dq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://siapdok.id/wp-content/uploads/bq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="http://estudamdergi.org/htdocs/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="http://estudamdergi.org/htdocs/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="http://estudamdergi.org/htdocs/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://bansalhospital.com/wp-includes/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://bansalhospital.com/wp-includes/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://bansalhospital.com/wp-includes/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://bansalhospitalsagar.com/wp-includes/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://bansalhospitalsagar.com/wp-includes/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://bansalhospitalsagar.com/wp-includes/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://www.toque.com.ar/info/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://www.toque.com.ar/info/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://www.toque.com.ar/info/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://www.iapsmupuk.org/journal/docs/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://www.iapsmupuk.org/journal/docs/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://www.iapsmupuk.org/journal/docs/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://podsi.or.id/wp-includes/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://podsi.or.id/wp-includes/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://podsi.or.id/wp-includes/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="http://ulam.mx/wp-includes/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="http://ulam.mx/wp-includes/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="http://ulam.mx/wp-includes/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://pdonpoultry.org/wp-includes/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://pdonpoultry.org/wp-includes/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://pdonpoultry.org/wp-includes/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://ivendo.or.id/wp-includes/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://ivendo.or.id/wp-includes/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://ivendo.or.id/wp-includes/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://sjccpumwani.org/wp-includes/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://sjccpumwani.org/wp-includes/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://sjccpumwani.org/wp-includes/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://longlifehospital.org/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://longlifehospital.org/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://longlifehospital.org/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://pitakuning.or.id/donate/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://pitakuning.or.id/donate/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://pitakuning.or.id/donate/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://www.wilsonturnerkosmo.com/wp-includes/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://www.wilsonturnerkosmo.com/wp-includes/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://www.wilsonturnerkosmo.com/wp-includes/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://pabellonisuzu.com/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://pabellonisuzu.com/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://pabellonisuzu.com/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://www.net54baseball.com/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://www.net54baseball.com/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://www.net54baseball.com/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://www.experienceandamans.com/lpg/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://www.experienceandamans.com/lpg/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://www.experienceandamans.com/lpg/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="http://difmazatlan.gob.mx/wp-content/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="http://difmazatlan.gob.mx/wp-content/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="http://difmazatlan.gob.mx/wp-content/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="http://www.issia.cnr.it/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="http://www.mcmc2012.issia.cnr.it/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="http://www.innowine.ispa.cnr.it/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://labragames.ifba.edu.br/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="http://gsecee.ifba.edu.br/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://inq.conquista.ifba.edu.br/sistema/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://adilorganik.co.id/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://adilorganik.co.id/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://adilorganik.co.id/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://ntnucamp.sce.ntnu.edu.tw/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://ntnucamp.sce.ntnu.edu.tw/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://ntnucamp.sce.ntnu.edu.tw/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://www.centrodecirurgiaoral.com.br/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://www.centrodecirurgiaoral.com.br/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://www.centrodecirurgiaoral.com.br/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://www.indonesiabisangaji.id/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://www.indonesiabisangaji.id/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://www.indonesiabisangaji.id/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://hcm.hanara.id/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://hcm.hanara.id/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://hcm.hanara.id/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://thepivotalnetwork.org/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://thepivotalnetwork.org/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://thepivotalnetwork.org/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://itu.sp.gov.br/wp-content/et-cache/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://itu.sp.gov.br/wp-content/et-cache/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://itu.sp.gov.br/wp-content/et-cache/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://ifparoma.org/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://ifparoma.org/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://ifparoma.org/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://lpkerm.com/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://lpkerm.com/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://lpkerm.com/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="http://103.211.82.85/public/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="http://103.211.82.85/public/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="http://103.211.82.85/public/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://web-client.rad-research.com/httdocs/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://web-client.rad-research.com/httdocs/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://web-client.rad-research.com/httdocs/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://prokuroria-rks.org/public/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://prokuroria-rks.org/public/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://prokuroria-rks.org/public/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://doblefilomx.com/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://doblefilomx.com/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://doblefilomx.com/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://husadautamahospital.com/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://husadautamahospital.com/update/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://husadautamahospital.com/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://katerciko.com/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://katerciko.com/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://katerciko.com/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://vms.au.edu/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://vms.au.edu/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://vms.au.edu/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://lifeclasses.fountainheadschools.org/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://lifeclasses.fountainheadschools.org/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://lifeclasses.fountainheadschools.org/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://ywmf.id/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://www.hotel-brittany.com/public/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://prichal15.ru/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://udm.ac.mz/js/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://udm.ac.mz/js/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://udm.ac.mz/js/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://theparenthood.com.my/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://theparenthood.com.my/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://theparenthood.com.my/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://racepenguin.com/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://racepenguin.com/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://racepenguin.com/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="http://leda.elfak.ni.ac.rs/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="http://leda.elfak.ni.ac.rs/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="http://leda.elfak.ni.ac.rs/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://mar.ulpgc.es/data/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://mar.ulpgc.es/data/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://mar.ulpgc.es/data/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://prosaudece.com.br/httdocs/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://prosaudece.com.br/httdocs/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://prosaudece.com.br/httdocs/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://ntucphl.org/public/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://ntucphl.org/public/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://ntucphl.org/public/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://afriglobalmedicare.com/httdocs/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://afriglobalmedicare.com/httdocs/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://afriglobalmedicare.com/httdocs/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://taekwondo.or.id/wp-includes/assets/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://taekwondo.or.id/wp-includes/assets/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://taekwondo.or.id/wp-includes/assets/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://psusocialpractice.org/wp-includes/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://psusocialpractice.org/wp-includes/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://psusocialpractice.org/wp-includes/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://ialu.org/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://ialu.org/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://ialu.org/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://excellentschool.org/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://excellentschool.org/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://excellentschool.org/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://maxxitani.id/wp-includes/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://maxxitani.id/wp-includes/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://maxxitani.id/wp-includes/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://kmi.alamanah.or.id/assets/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://kmi.alamanah.or.id/media/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://kmi.alamanah.or.id/public/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://iesr.or.id/wp-includes/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://iesr.or.id/wp-includes/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://iesr.or.id/wp-includes/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://www.ikeastiftung.de/assets/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://www.ikeastiftung.de/assets/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://www.ikeastiftung.de/assets/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://owapi.prodak.id/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://owapi.prodak.id/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://owapi.prodak.id/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://rshjayakarta.com/public/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://rshjayakarta.com/public/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://rshjayakarta.com/public/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://pacja.org/docs/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://pacja.org/docs/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://pacja.org/docs/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://www.knkvgroup.com/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://www.knkvgroup.com/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://www.knkvgroup.com/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://laghana.org/gjl/docs/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://laghana.org/gjl/docs/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://laghana.org/gjl/docs/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://goodhopeholdings.com/data/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://goodhopeholdings.com/data/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://goodhopeholdings.com/data/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://rocbyelaws.gov.bm/wp-content/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://rocbyelaws.gov.bm/wp-content/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://rocbyelaws.gov.bm/wp-content/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://annamalaiuniversity.ac.in/care/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://annamalaiuniversity.ac.in/care/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://annamalaiuniversity.ac.in/care/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://cms.gruene.de/data/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://cms.gruene.de/data/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://cms.gruene.de/data/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://mm.cua.uam.mx/wp-content/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://mm.cua.uam.mx/wp-content/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://mm.cua.uam.mx/wp-content/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://inria.cefipra.org/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://icardy.academysmart.com/vendor/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://icardy.academysmart.com/vendor/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://icardy.academysmart.com/vendor/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="http://canal2jujuy.com/canal2/wp-content/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="http://canal2jujuy.com/canal2/wp-content/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="http://canal2jujuy.com/canal2/wp-content/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://sekolahindonesia.edu.my/web2/public/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://sekolahindonesia.edu.my/web2/public/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://sekolahindonesia.edu.my/web2/public/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://ceksertifikat.lpkerm.com/wp-includes/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://ceksertifikat.lpkerm.com/wp-includes/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://ceksertifikat.lpkerm.com/wp-includes/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://daftar-untagsurabaya.id/layanan/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://daftar-untagsurabaya.id/layanan/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://daftar-untagsurabaya.id/layanan/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://nafti.edu.gh/wp-includes/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://nafti.edu.gh/wp-includes/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://nafti.edu.gh/wp-includes/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://www.elasticroute.com/route/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://www.elasticroute.com/route/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://www.elasticroute.com/route/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://annmarieswift.com/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://annmarieswift.com/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://annmarieswift.com/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://www.queensnrihospital.com/blog/consultant/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://www.queensnrihospital.com/blog/consultant/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://www.queensnrihospital.com/blog/consultant/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://yacpa.org/public/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://yacpa.org/public/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://yacpa.org/public/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://www.nirantar.net/uploads/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://www.nirantar.net/uploads/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://www.nirantar.net/uploads/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://rsgrahahusada.com/wp-includes/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
  <a href="https://rsgrahahusada.com/wp-includes/bandarqq/">bandarqq</a>
  <a href="https://rsgrahahusada.com/wp-includes/dominoqq/">dominoqq</a>
  <a href="https://kmi.alamanah.or.id/ppdb/pkv-games/">pkv games</a>
</div>
<div style="display: none;">
<a href="https://cv777.id/">https://cv777.id/</a>
<a href="https://day777.id/">https://day777.id/</a>
<a href="https://pc777.id/">https://pc777.id/</a>
<a href="https://sp777.id/">https://sp777.id/</a>
</div><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" dir="ltr" lang="en">
<head>
	<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" />
<meta name="generator" content="vBulletin 3.8.11" />

<meta name="keywords" content=" Very Interesting How Certain Stars are valued, vintage baseball cards autographs memorabilia" />
<meta name="description" content=" Very Interesting How Certain Stars are valued Net54baseball Vintage (WWII &amp; Older) Baseball Cards &amp; New Member Introductions" />


<!-- CSS Stylesheet -->
<style type="text/css" id="vbulletin_css">
/**
* vBulletin 3.8.11 CSS
* Style: 'mainforumstyles'; Style ID: 2
*/
body
{
	background: #ffffff;
	color: #000000;
	font: 10pt verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
	margin: 5px 10px 10px 10px;
	padding: 0px;
}
a:link, body_alink
{
	color: #22229C;
}
a:visited, body_avisited
{
	color: #22229C;
}
a:hover, a:active, body_ahover
{
	color: #FF4400;
}
.page
{
	background: #FFFFFF;
	color: #000000;
}
td, th, p, li
{
	font: 10pt verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
}
.tborder
{
	background: #D1D1E1;
	color: #000000;
	border: 1px solid #0B198C;
}
.tcat
{
	background: #869BBF url(images/gradients/gradient_tcat.gif) repeat-x top left;
	color: #FFFFFF;
	font: bold 10pt verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
}
.tcat a:link, .tcat_alink
{
	color: #ffffff;
	text-decoration: none;
}
.tcat a:visited, .tcat_avisited
{
	color: #ffffff;
	text-decoration: none;
}
.tcat a:hover, .tcat a:active, .tcat_ahover
{
	color: #FFFF66;
	text-decoration: underline;
}
.thead
{
	background: #5C7099 url(images/gradients/gradient_thead.gif) repeat-x top left;
	color: #FFFFFF;
	font: bold 11px tahoma, verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
}
.thead a:link, .thead_alink
{
	color: #FFFFFF;
}
.thead a:visited, .thead_avisited
{
	color: #FFFFFF;
}
.thead a:hover, .thead a:active, .thead_ahover
{
	color: #FFFF00;
}
.tfoot
{
	background: #3E5C92;
	color: #E0E0F6;
}
.tfoot a:link, .tfoot_alink
{
	color: #E0E0F6;
}
.tfoot a:visited, .tfoot_avisited
{
	color: #E0E0F6;
}
.tfoot a:hover, .tfoot a:active, .tfoot_ahover
{
	color: #FFFF66;
}
.alt1, .alt1Active
{
	background: #F5F5FF;
	color: #000000;
}
.alt2, .alt2Active
{
	background: #E1E4F2;
	color: #000000;
}
.inlinemod
{
	background: #FFFFCC;
	color: #000000;
}
.wysiwyg
{
	background: #F5F5FF;
	color: #000000;
	font: 10pt verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
	margin: 5px 10px 10px 10px;
	padding: 0px;
}
.wysiwyg a:link, .wysiwyg_alink
{
	color: #22229C;
}
.wysiwyg a:visited, .wysiwyg_avisited
{
	color: #22229C;
}
.wysiwyg a:hover, .wysiwyg a:active, .wysiwyg_ahover
{
	color: #FF4400;
}
textarea, .bginput
{
	font: 10pt verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
}
.bginput option, .bginput optgroup
{
	font-size: 10pt;
	font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
}
.button
{
	font: 11px verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
}
select
{
	font: 11px verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
}
option, optgroup
{
	font-size: 11px;
	font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
}
.smallfont
{
	font: 11px verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
}
.time
{
	color: #666686;
}
.navbar
{
	font: 11px verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
}
.highlight
{
	color: #FF0000;
	font-weight: bold;
}
.fjsel
{
	background: #3E5C92;
	color: #E0E0F6;
}
.fjdpth0
{
	background: #F7F7F7;
	color: #000000;
}
.panel
{
	background: #E4E7F5 url(images/gradients/gradient_panel.gif) repeat-x top left;
	color: #000000;
	padding: 10px;
	border: 2px outset;
}
.panelsurround
{
	background: #D1D4E0 url(images/gradients/gradient_panelsurround.gif) repeat-x top left;
	color: #000000;
}
legend
{
	color: #22229C;
	font: 11px tahoma, verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
}
.vbmenu_control
{
	background: #738FBF;
	color: #FFFFFF;
	font: bold 11px tahoma, verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
	padding: 3px 6px 3px 6px;
	white-space: nowrap;
}
.vbmenu_control a:link, .vbmenu_control_alink
{
	color: #FFFFFF;
	text-decoration: none;
}
.vbmenu_control a:visited, .vbmenu_control_avisited
{
	color: #FFFFFF;
	text-decoration: none;
}
.vbmenu_control a:hover, .vbmenu_control a:active, .vbmenu_control_ahover
{
	color: #FFFFFF;
	text-decoration: underline;
}
.vbmenu_popup
{
	background: #FFFFFF;
	color: #000000;
	border: 1px solid #0B198C;
}
.vbmenu_option
{
	background: #BBC7CE;
	color: #000000;
	font: 11px verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
	white-space: nowrap;
	cursor: pointer;
}
.vbmenu_option a:link, .vbmenu_option_alink
{
	color: #22229C;
	text-decoration: none;
}
.vbmenu_option a:visited, .vbmenu_option_avisited
{
	color: #22229C;
	text-decoration: none;
}
.vbmenu_option a:hover, .vbmenu_option a:active, .vbmenu_option_ahover
{
	color: #FFFFFF;
	text-decoration: none;
}
.vbmenu_hilite
{
	background: #8A949E;
	color: #FFFFFF;
	font: 11px verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
	white-space: nowrap;
	cursor: pointer;
}
.vbmenu_hilite a:link, .vbmenu_hilite_alink
{
	color: #FFFFFF;
	text-decoration: none;
}
.vbmenu_hilite a:visited, .vbmenu_hilite_avisited
{
	color: #FFFFFF;
	text-decoration: none;
}
.vbmenu_hilite a:hover, .vbmenu_hilite a:active, .vbmenu_hilite_ahover
{
	color: #FFFFFF;
	text-decoration: none;
}
/* ***** styling for 'big' usernames on postbit etc. ***** */
.bigusername { font-size: 14pt; }

/* ***** small padding on 'thead' elements ***** */
td.thead, th.thead, div.thead { padding: 4px; }

/* ***** basic styles for multi-page nav elements */
.pagenav a { text-decoration: none; }
.pagenav td { padding: 2px 4px 2px 4px; }

/* ***** de-emphasized text */
.shade, a.shade:link, a.shade:visited { color: #777777; text-decoration: none; }
a.shade:active, a.shade:hover { color: #FF4400; text-decoration: underline; }
.tcat .shade, .thead .shade, .tfoot .shade { color: #DDDDDD; }

/* ***** define margin and font-size for elements inside panels ***** */
.fieldset { margin-bottom: 6px; }
.fieldset, .fieldset td, .fieldset p, .fieldset li { font-size: 11px; }
</style>
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="clientscript/vbulletin_important.css?v=3811" />


<!-- / CSS Stylesheet -->

<script type="text/javascript" src="clientscript/yui/yahoo-dom-event/yahoo-dom-event.js?v=3811"></script>
<script type="text/javascript" src="clientscript/yui/connection/connection-min.js?v=3811"></script>
<script type="text/javascript">
<!--
var SESSIONURL = "";
var SECURITYTOKEN = "guest";
var IMGDIR_MISC = "images/misc";
var vb_disable_ajax = parseInt("0", 10);
// -->
</script>
<script type="text/javascript" src="clientscript/vbulletin_global.js?v=3811"></script>
<script type="text/javascript" src="clientscript/vbulletin_menu.js?v=3811"></script>


	<link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="Net54baseball.com Forums RSS Feed" href="external.php?type=RSS2" />
	
		<link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="Net54baseball.com Forums - Net54baseball Vintage (WWII &amp; Older) Baseball Cards &amp; New Member Introductions - RSS Feed" href="external.php?type=RSS2&amp;forumids=2" />
	


<script type="text/javascript" src="mobiquo/tapatalkdetect.js"></script>

<script type="text/javascript">

  var _gaq = _gaq || [];
  _gaq.push(['_setAccount', 'UA-26524282-1']);
  _gaq.push(['_trackPageview']);

  (function() {
    var ga = document.createElement('script'); ga.type = 'text/javascript'; ga.async = true;
    ga.src = ('https:' == document.location.protocol ? 'https://ssl' : 'http://www') + '.google-analytics.com/ga.js';
    var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; s.parentNode.insertBefore(ga, s);
  })();

</script>
<script>window._epn = {campaign: 5338812911, smartPopover:false};</script>
<script src="https://epnt.ebay.com/static/epn-smart-tools.js"></script>

        <!-- App Indexing for Google Search -->
        <link href="android-app://com.quoord.tapatalkpro.activity/tapatalk/www.net54baseball.com?location=post&amp;fid=2&amp;tid=292050&amp;pid=2036705&amp;channel=google-indexing" rel="alternate" />
        <link href="ios-app://307880732/tapatalk/www.net54baseball.com?location=post&amp;fid=2&amp;tid=292050&amp;pid=2036705&amp;channel=google-indexing" rel="alternate" />
        
           <link href="http://www.net54baseball.com/mobiquo/smartbanner/manifest.json" rel="manifest">
        
        <meta name="apple-itunes-app" content="app-id=307880732, affiliate-data=at=10lR7C, app-argument=tapatalk://www.net54baseball.com?location=post&fid=2&tid=292050&pid=2036705" />
        
	<title> Very Interesting How Certain Stars are valued - Net54baseball.com Forums</title>
	<script type="text/javascript" src="clientscript/vbulletin_post_loader.js?v=3811"></script>
	<style type="text/css" id="vbulletin_showthread_css">
	<!--
	
	#links div { white-space: nowrap; }
	#links img { vertical-align: middle; }
	-->
	</style>
</head>
<body onload="">
<script language="javascript" type="text/javascript" src="/forum/content/ebaylinks.js"></script>
<script>window._epn = {campaign: 5338812911, smartPopover:false};</script>
<script src="https://epnt.ebay.com/static/epn-smart-tools.js"></script>

<div class="mastheadwrap">

<div style="position:absolute; right:9px;">
<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
<tr>
<td>


<script language="javascript" type="text/javascript"> var ran_number=Math.floor(Math.random()*5); var topbanners=new Array()

topbanners[0]= '<' + 'a href="http://www.milehighcardco.com" target=_blank ' + '>' + '<' + 'IMG border="0" SRC="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/premium66_mh.gif"' + '>' + '<' + '/a>'

topbanners[1]= '<' + 'a href="http://sports.ha.com/how-to-sell-my-collection.s?type=dmc-net54-consign-sports-102725" target=_blank ' + '>' + '<' + 'IMG border="0" SRC="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/premium66_heritage.jpg" width="500" height="65"' + '>' + '<' + '/a>'

topbanners[2]= '<' + 'a href="https://www.nsccshow.com/" target=_blank ' + '>' + '<' + 'IMG border="0" SRC="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/premium66_nscc.jpg" width="500" height="65"' + '>' + '<' + '/a>'

topbanners[3]= '<' + 'a href="https://www.thepennysleever.com/" target=_blank ' + '>' + '<' + 'IMG border="0" SRC="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/premium66_penny.gif" width="500" height="65"' + '>' + '<' + '/a>'

topbanners[4]= '<' + 'a href="https://classicauctions.net/catalog.aspx" target=_blank ' + '>' + '<' + 'IMG border="0" SRC="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/premium66_classic.gif" width="500" height="65"' + '>' + '<' + '/a>'

document.writeln(topbanners[ran_number]);   
</script>



</td><td width="28">&nbsp;</td>
<td><a href="http://forum.vintagenonsports.com/" target="_blank"><img border="0" src="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/nonsports_icon.gif" alt="NonSports Forum" /></a></td>
</tr>
</table>
</div>
	<br />

<table width="100%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" >
<tr>
<td colspan="2">
	<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
	<tr>
	<td><img border="0" src="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/2009logo.jpg" alt="Net54baseball.com" /></td>
	<td valign="top" style="background:url(https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/2009top.jpg) repeat-x; height:158px; padding-left:6px; width:100%;">

        	<div style="padding:88px 18px 0 0; min-width:475px; font-size:12px; font-family:arial;">Welcome to <span style="font-size:14px; color:#002799;"><b>Net54baseball.com</b></span>. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for <b>B</b>uying, <b>S</b>elling and <b>T</b>rading - the <b>B/S/T</b> area!! <span style="font-weight:bold; font-size:14px;">If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it.   </span>. Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy! </div>

	</td>
	<td><img border="0" src="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/2009rightedge.jpg" alt="Net54baseball.com" /></td>
	</tr>
	</table>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><img border="0" src="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/2009leftedge.jpg" alt="Net54baseball.com" /></td>
<td valign="top" style="background:url(https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/2009bottom.jpg) repeat-x; height:111px; width:100%;">
	<table border="0" cellpadding="0"cellspacing="0">
	<tr>
	<td valign="top">

<script language="javascript" type="text/javascript">
 var ran_number=Math.floor(Math.random()*6);
 
var mycars=new Array()

mycars[0]= '<' + 'a href="https://loveofthegameauctions.com" target=_blank ' + '>' + '<' + 'IMG border="0" SRC="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/net54banner_love.gif"' + '>' + '<' + '/a>'
mycars[1]= '<' + 'a href="http://www.sterlingsportsauctions.com/" target=_blank ' + '>' + '<' + 'IMG border="0" SRC="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/net54banner_sterling.gif"' + '>' + '<' + '/a>'

mycars[2]= '<' + 'a href="https://www.cgccards.com/?utm_source=partner&utm_medium=banner&utm_campaign=Net54_July2023&utm_id=CGCCards" target=_blank ' + '>' + '<' + 'IMG border="0" SRC="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/net54banner_csg.gif"' + '>' + '<' + '/a>'

mycars[3]= '<' + 'a href="https://www.stinsonsports.com/" target=_blank ' + '>' + '<' + 'IMG border="0" SRC="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/net54banner_stinson.jpg"' + '>' + '<' + '/a>'

mycars[4]= '<' + 'a href="https://classicauctions.net/catalog.aspx" target=_blank ' + '>' + '<' + 'IMG border="0" SRC="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/net54banner_classic.gif"' + '>' + '<' + '/a>'

mycars[5]= '<' + 'a href="https://www.thepennysleever.com/" target=_blank ' + '>' + '<' + 'IMG border="0" SRC="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/net54banner_penny.gif"' + '>' + '<' + '/a>'

document.writeln(mycars[ran_number]);    
</script>





<map name="jcbanner">
  <area shape="rect" coords="0,0,275,90" alt="ebay" href="https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5574643778&toolid=10001&campid=5336784124&customid=&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fstores.ebay.com%2Fjust-collect-Vintage-Sports-Cards" />
  <area shape="rect" coords="275,0,550,90" alt="GSB" href="http://grandslambids.com" /> 
</map>


	</td>
	<td valign="top" style="padding-left:10px;">

			
        <table width=”400” height="90" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
        <tr>
 <td valign="top" height="90" width="230">

<script language="javascript" type="text/javascript"> var ran_number=Math.floor(Math.random()*9); var CTfront=new Array()

CTfront[0]= '<' + 'a href="http://www.oldbaseball.com" target=_blank ' + '>' + '<' + 'IMG border="0" SRC="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/CTbanner_obc.jpg"' + '>' + '<' + '/a>'

CTfront[1]= '<' + 'a href="http://brockelmanauctions.com/" target=_blank ' + '>' + '<' + 'IMG border="0" SRC="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/CTbanner_brock.gif"' + '>' + '<' + '/a>'

CTfront[2]= '<' + 'a href="http://www.authentictradingpost.com/" target=_blank ' + '>' + '<' + 'IMG border="0" SRC="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/CTbanner_tradingpost.gif"' + '>' + '<' + '/a>'

CTfront[3]= '<' + 'a href="https://csashows.com/" target=_blank ' + '>' + '<' + 'IMG border="0" SRC="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/CTbanner_CSA.jpg"' + '>' + '<' + '/a>'

CTfront[4]= '<' + 'a href="https://www.cgccards.com/?utm_source=partner&utm_medium=banner&utm_campaign=Net54_July2023&utm_id=CGCCards" target=_blank ' + '>' + '<' + 'IMG border="0" SRC="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/CTbanner_csg.gif"' + '>' + '<' + '/a>'

CTfront[5]= '<' + 'a href="https://vintagecardprices.com/" target=_blank ' + '>' + '<' + 'IMG border="0" SRC="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/CTbanner_vcp.gif"' + '>' + '<' + '/a>'

CTfront[6]= '<' + 'a href="https://www.nationalcardinvestors1.com/store/store.html" target=_blank ' + '>' + '<' + 'IMG border="0" SRC="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/CTbanner_national.jpg"' + '>' + '<' + '/a>'

CTfront[7]= '<' + 'a href="https://www.pennantfevershow.com/" target=_blank ' + '>' + '<' + 'IMG border="0" SRC="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/CTbanner_venice.jpg"' + '>' + '<' + '/a>'

CTfront[8]= '<' + 'a href="https://www.insidetheparkcollectibles.com/catalog.aspx" target=_blank ' + '>' + '<' + 'IMG border="0" SRC="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/CTbanner_inside.gif"' + '>' + '<' + '/a>'

document.writeln(CTfront[ran_number]); 
</script>

<td width="10" height="90"><img border="0" width="8" height="90" src="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/spacer.gif" alt=""/></td>
<td width="196" valign="top" height="90"><a href="https://wheatlandauctionservices.com/" target="_blank"><img border="0"  src="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/SMbanner_wheatland.gif" alt=""/></a></td>

      


</tr>
</table>



	</td>
	</tr>
	</table>

</td>
</tr>
</table>
    
    <table style="background:url(https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/iconback.jpg) repeat-x; height:75px; margin-top:1px;" width="100%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0">
    <tr>
<td align="center"><a href="https://www.net54baseball.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2"><img border="0" src="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/home_icon.jpg"></a></td>

<td align="center"><a href="https://www.net54baseball.com/forumdisplay.php?f=3"><img border="0" src="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/bst_icon.jpg"></a></td>

<td align="center"><a href="https://www.net54baseball.com/forumdisplay.php?f=5"><img border="0" src="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/memorabilia_icon.jpg"></a></td>

<td align="center"><a href="https://www.net54baseball.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6"><img border="0" src="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/postwar_icon.jpg"></a></td>

<td align="center"><a href="https://www.net54baseball.com/forum/content/vintagelinks.html"><img border="0" src="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/links_icon.jpg"></a></td>

<td align="center"><a href="https://www.net54baseball.com/faq.php"><img  border="0" src="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/rules_icon.jpg"></a></td>

<td align="center"><a href="https://www.net54baseball.com/forum/content/archivecenter.html"><img border="0" src="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/archive_icon.jpg"></a></td>

<td align="center"><a href="http://www.oldcardboard.com" target="_blank"><img border="0" src="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/oc_icon.gif"></a></td>

    </tr>
    </table>

</div>
<!--mastheadend-->

<!--[if IE]>
<style type="text/css">
  #_container ._content {
    position: relative;
    min-height: 40px;
  }
</style>
<![endif]-->


<!--static tables-->
<table width="100%" cellpadding="0" height="90" cellspacing="0" border="0" style="border:1px solid grey; padding:15px 18px; background:#c8d6fe;">
<tr>
<td width="550" height="90" style="width:550px;" align="left">

<script language="javascript" type="text/javascript"> var ran_number=Math.floor(Math.random()*1); var staticLarge=new Array()

staticLarge[0]='<' + 'a href="https://www.hakes.com/Auction/CategoryItemList/372/Sports-All?dgv-rowsPerPage=100" target=_blank ' + '>' + '<' + 'IMG border="0" SRC="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/net54banner_hakes.gif" width="550" height="90"' + '>' + '<' + '/a>'
document.writeln(staticLarge[ran_number]);   
</script>

</td>
<td height="90" width="10" height="90"><img border="0" width="10" height="90" src="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/spacer.gif" alt="" /></td>
<td height="90" width="230" align="left" style="width:230px; background:#e2e9fe;">

<script language="javascript" type="text/javascript"> var ran_number=Math.floor(Math.random()*2); var staticMedium=new Array()

staticMedium[0]= '<' + 'a href="https://www.cleansweepauctions.com/listview.cgi?listing_type=auction&sort_by=end" target=_blank ' + '>' + '<' + 'IMG border="0" SRC="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/CTbanner_verkman.gif"' + '>' + '<' + '/a>'

staticMedium[1]= '<' + 'a href="https://lelands.com/consign-and-sell" target=_blank ' + '>' + '<' + 'IMG border="0" SRC="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/CTbanner_lelands.gif"' + '>' + '<' + '/a>'
document.writeln(staticMedium[ran_number]);  

</script>

</td>
<td height="90" width="10" height="90"><img border="0" width="10" height="90" src="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/spacer.gif" alt="" /></td>
<td height="90" width="15" height="90" style="background:#e2e9fe; border-left:1px solid white"><img border="0" width="15" height="90" src="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/spacer.gif" alt="" /></td>
<td height="90" width="auto" style="background:#e2e9fe; min-width:220px;">

<table width="100%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0">
<tr>
<td width="110" style="min-width:110px; color:blue; font-size:11px; font-family:arial">
<a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=t206+-%28reprint%2C+topps%29&_sacat=213&LH_TitleDesc=0&_sop=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338821054&customid=T206&toolid=10001&mkevt=1" target=_blank>T206s on eBay</a><br>
<a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=goudey+ruth&_sacat=212&LH_TitleDesc=0&_fsrp=1&_odkw=goudey+ruth&_osacat=212&_sop=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338821054&customid=goudeyruth&toolid=10001&mkevt=1Ty" target=_blank>Babe Ruth Cards on eBay</a><br>
<a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=t206+ty+cobb&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_odkw=t206+ty+cobb&_osacat=0&_sop=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338821054&customid=t206cobb&toolid=10001&mkevt=1" target=_blank>t206 Ty Cobb on eBay</a><br>
<a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/261328/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=Ty+Cobb+-topps+-reprint+-conlon+-tcma&LH_TitleDesc=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_fsrp=1&_sop=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338821054&customid=Tycobb&toolid=10001&mkevt=1" target=_blank>Ty Cobb Cards on eBay</a><br>
<a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=lou+gehrig+-topps+-fleer+-upper&_sacat=64482&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338821054&customid=Lougehrig&toolid=10001&_sop=1" target=_blank>Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay</a><br>
</td>
<td width="8" ><img border="0" width="8" height="90" src="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/spacer.gif" alt="" /></td>
<td width="110" style="min-width:110px; color:blue; font-size:11px; font-family:arial">
<a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_dcat=213&_fsrp=1&_sop=1&_nkw=(t201%2Ct202%2Ct203%2Ct204%2CT207%2CT208%2CT209%2CT210%2CT211%2CT212%2CT213%2CT214%2CT215%2CT216%2CT217)+-reprint&_sacat=213&_from=R40&rt=nc&LH_TitleDesc=0&Era=Pre%252DWWII%2520%2528Pre%252D1942%2529%7C!&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338821054&customid=t201t202etc&toolid=10001&mkevt=1" target=_blank>Baseball T201-T217 on eBay</a><br>

<a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_dcat=213&_fsrp=1&_sop=1&_nkw=(E90-1%2CE90-2%2CE90-3%2CE91%2CE92%2CE93%2CE94%2CE95%2CE96%2CE97%2CE98%2CE99%2CE100%2CE101%2CE102%2CE103%2CE104%2CE105%2CE106%2CE107)&_sacat=213&_from=R40&rt=nc&LH_TitleDesc=0&Era=Pre%252DWWII%2520%2528Pre%252D1942%2529%7C!&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338821054&customid=allecards&toolid=10001&mkevt=1" target=_blank>Baseball E90-E107 on eBay</a><br>

<a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=t205+-%28reprint%2C+topps%29&_sacat=213&LH_TitleDesc=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_sop=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338821054&customid=t205&toolid=10001&mkevt=1" target=_blank>T205 Cards on eBay</a><br>

<a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=Vintage+Baseball+Postcard+-TCMA&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_sop=1&_osacat=0&_odkw=Vintage+Baseball+Postcard&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338821054&customid=postcards&toolid=10001&mkevt=1" target=_blank>Baseball Postcards on eBay</a><br>

<a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/261328/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=Goudey++&LH_TitleDesc=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_sop=1&Card%2520Manufacturer=Goudey&_dcat=213&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338821054&customid=Goudey&toolid=10001&mkevt=1" target=_blank>Goudey Cards on eBay</a><br>
</td>
<td width="8" ><img border="0" width="8" height="90" src="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/spacer.gif" alt="" /></td>
<td width="140" style="min-width:140px; color:blue; font-size:11px; font-family:arial">
<a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/50123/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=baseball&LH_TitleDesc=0&_oac=1&_sop=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338821054&customid=Vintagebaseballmemorabilia&toolid=10001&mkevt=1" target=_blank>Baseball Memorabilia on eBay</a><br>

<a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=baseball+exhibit+-reprint&_sacat=261328&LH_TitleDesc=0&_fsrp=1&_sop=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338821054&customid=exhibits&toolid=10001&mkevt=1 " target=_blank>Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay</a><br>


<a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=strip+card+-reprint&_sacat=213&LH_TitleDesc=0&_fsrp=1&_sop=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338821054&customid=stripcards&toolid=10001&mkevt=1" target=_blank>Baseball Strip Cards on eBay</a><br>

<a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=Baking+-reprint&_sacat=212&_sop=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338821054&customid=baking&toolid=10001&mkevt=1" target=_blank>Baseball Baking Cards on eBay</a><br>

<a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=Sporting+News+-topps+-reprint&_sacat=212&LH_TitleDesc=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_sop=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338821054&customid=sportingnews&toolid=10001&mkevt=1" target=_blank>Sporting News Cards on eBay</a><br>


</td>
<td width="8" ><img border="0" width="8" height="90" src="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/spacer.gif" alt="" /></td>
<td width="140" style="min-width:140px; color:blue; font-size:11px; font-family:arial">
<a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=Play+Ball+-reprint+-topps+-upper&_sacat=213&LH_TitleDesc=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_fsrp=1&Original%252FReprint=Original%7C%21&_sop=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338821054&customid=playball&toolid=10001&mkevt=1" target=_blank>Play Ball Cards on eBay</a><br>


<a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=joe+dimaggio+card+-reprint&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&toolid=10001&mkcid=1&campid=5338821054&_odkw=joe+dimaggio+card&_osacat=0&_sop=1&siteid=0&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&customid=joedimaggio" target=_blank>Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay</a><br>


<a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/212/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=Mickey+Mantle+-reprint+-book+-new+-1997&LH_TitleDesc=0&_fsrp=1&Era=%21&_sop=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338821054&customid=MickeyMantle&toolid=10001&mkevt=1" target=_blank>Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay</a><br>


<a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=%281951%2C1952%2C+1953%2C+1954%2C+1955%29+bowman&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&rt=nc&Era=Post%252DWWII%2520%25281942%252D1980%2529&_odkw=Bowman&_osacat=0&_dcat=213&_sop=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338821054&customid=5152535455bowman&toolid=10001&mkevt=1" target=_blank>Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay</a><br>


<a href="https://www.ebay.com/b/Football-Sports-Trading-Cards-Accessories/212/bn_2313620?_sop=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338821054&customid=footballcards&toolid=10001&mkevt=1" target=_blank>Football Cards on eBay</a><br>


</td>
<!--non-flex column<td height="90" width="auto" style="background:#e2e9fe; min-width:220px;">-->
</tr>
</table>
</span>
</td>
</tr>
</table>


<!--end static tables-->


<!--<script src="https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.4.2/jquery.min.js" type="text/javascript"></script>-->
<script language="javascript" type="text/javascript" >window.onload = configureEbay()</script>
<script type="text/javascript">
    var gifSource = $('#gif_animata').attr('src'); //get the source in the var
    $('#gif_animata').attr('src', ""); //erase the source     
    $('#gif_animata').attr('src', gifSource+"?"+new Date().getTime()); //add the date to the source of the image... :-) 
</script>


<!-- content table -->
<!-- open content container -->

<div align="center">
	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">
		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">





<br />

<!-- breadcrumb, login, pm info -->
<table class="tborder" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">
<tr>
	<td class="alt1" width="100%">
		
			<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0">
			<tr valign="bottom">
				<td><a href="#" onclick="history.back(1); return false;"><img src="images/misc/navbits_start.gif" alt="Go Back" border="0" /></a></td>
				<td>&nbsp;</td>
				<td width="100%"><span class="navbar"><a href="index.php" accesskey="1">Net54baseball.com Forums</a></span> 
	<span class="navbar">&gt; <a href="forumdisplay.php?f=1">Net54baseball Main Forum -  WWII &amp; Older Baseball Cards</a></span>


	<span class="navbar">&gt; <a href="forumdisplay.php?f=2">Net54baseball Vintage (WWII &amp; Older) Baseball Cards &amp; New Member Introductions</a></span>

</td>
			</tr>
			<tr>
				<td class="navbar" style="font-size:10pt; padding-top:1px" colspan="3"><a href="/showthread.php?mode=threaded&amp;p=2036705"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/misc/navbits_finallink_ltr.gif" alt="Reload this Page" border="0" /></a> <strong>
	 Very Interesting How Certain Stars are valued

</strong></td>
			</tr>
			</table>
		
	</td>

	<td class="alt2" nowrap="nowrap" style="padding:0px">
		<!-- login form -->
		<form action="login.php?do=login" method="post" onsubmit="md5hash(vb_login_password, vb_login_md5password, vb_login_md5password_utf, 0)">
		<script type="text/javascript" src="clientscript/vbulletin_md5.js?v=3811"></script>
		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="3" border="0">
		<tr>
			<td class="smallfont" style="white-space: nowrap;"><label for="navbar_username">User Name</label></td>
			<td><input type="text" class="bginput" style="font-size: 11px" name="vb_login_username" id="navbar_username" size="10" accesskey="u" tabindex="101" value="User Name" onfocus="if (this.value == 'User Name') this.value = '';" /></td>
			<td class="smallfont" nowrap="nowrap"><label for="cb_cookieuser_navbar"><input type="checkbox" name="cookieuser" value="1" tabindex="103" id="cb_cookieuser_navbar" accesskey="c" checked="checked" />Remember Me?</label></td>
		</tr>
		<tr>
			<td class="smallfont"><label for="navbar_password">Password</label></td>
			<td><input type="password" class="bginput" style="font-size: 11px" name="vb_login_password" id="navbar_password" size="10" tabindex="102" /></td>
			<td><input type="submit" class="button" value="Log in" tabindex="104" title="Enter your username and password in the boxes provided to login, or click the 'register' button to create a profile for yourself." accesskey="s" /></td>
		</tr>
		</table>
		<input type="hidden" name="s" value="" />
		<input type="hidden" name="securitytoken" value="guest" />
		<input type="hidden" name="do" value="login" />
		<input type="hidden" name="vb_login_md5password" />
		<input type="hidden" name="vb_login_md5password_utf" />
		</form>
		<!-- / login form -->
	</td>

</tr>
</table>
<!-- / breadcrumb, login, pm info -->

<!-- nav buttons bar -->
<div class="tborder" style="padding:1px; border-top-width:0px">
	<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%" align="center">
	<tr align="center">
		
		
			<td class="vbmenu_control"><a href="register.php" rel="nofollow">Register</a></td>
		
		
<!-- chat server begin -->

<td class="vbmenu_control"><a href="http://client4.addonchat.com/chat.php?id=601716&s"
onclick="window.open('http://client4.addonchat.com/chat.php?id=601716&fs&s',
'addonchat','width=620,height=440,status=no,scrollbars=no,menubar=no,resizable=yes');
return false">NEW Chat!</a></td>

<td class="vbmenu_control"><a target="scwho" href="http://client4.addonchat.com/scwho.php?id=601716&port=8006&style=3&color_username=000000&color_admin=990000&color_room=0000ff&color_bg=ffffff&bold_admin=0&bold_rooms=1&font_face=Verdana&font_size=12" onClick="window.open('http://client4.addonchat.com/scwho.php?id=601716&port=8006&style=3&color_username=000000&color_admin=990000&color_room=0000ff&color_bg=ffffff&bold_admin=0&bold_rooms=1&font_face=Verdana&font_size=12','scwho','width=250,height=350,status=no,scrollbars=yes,menubar=no,resizable=yes'); return false">Who's Chatting</a></td>

<!-- chat server end -->
		<td class="vbmenu_control"><a rel="help" href="faq.php" accesskey="5">FAQ</a></td>
		
			
			
		
		<td class="vbmenu_control"><a href="calendar.php">Calendar</a></td>
		
			
				
				<td class="vbmenu_control"><a href="search.php?do=getdaily" accesskey="2">Today's Posts</a></td>
				
				<td class="vbmenu_control"><a id="navbar_search" href="search.php" accesskey="4" rel="nofollow">Search</a> </td>
			
			
		
		
		
		</tr>
	</table>
</div>
<!-- / nav buttons bar -->

<br />






<!-- NAVBAR POPUP MENUS -->

	
	
	
	<!-- header quick search form -->
	<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="navbar_search_menu" style="display:none;margin-top:3px" align="left">
		<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">
		<tr>
			<td class="thead">Search Forums</td>
		</tr>
		<tr>
			<td class="vbmenu_option" title="nohilite">
				<form action="search.php?do=process" method="post">

					<input type="hidden" name="do" value="process" />
					<input type="hidden" name="quicksearch" value="1" />
					<input type="hidden" name="childforums" value="1" />
					<input type="hidden" name="exactname" value="1" />
					<input type="hidden" name="s" value="" />
					<input type="hidden" name="securitytoken" value="guest" />
					<div><input type="text" class="bginput" name="query" size="25" tabindex="1001" /><input type="submit" class="button" value="Go" tabindex="1004" /></div>
					<div style="margin-top:6px">
						<label for="rb_nb_sp0"><input type="radio" name="showposts" value="0" id="rb_nb_sp0" tabindex="1002" checked="checked" />Show Threads</label>
						&nbsp;
						<label for="rb_nb_sp1"><input type="radio" name="showposts" value="1" id="rb_nb_sp1" tabindex="1003" />Show Posts</label>
					</div>
				</form>
			</td>
		</tr>
		
		<tr>
			<td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="tags.php" rel="nofollow">Tag Search</a></td>
		</tr>
		
		<tr>
			<td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php" accesskey="4" rel="nofollow">Advanced Search</a></td>
		</tr>
		
		</table>
	</div>
	<!-- / header quick search form -->
	
	
	
<!-- / NAVBAR POPUP MENUS -->

<!-- PAGENAV POPUP -->
	<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="pagenav_menu" style="display:none">
		<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">
		<tr>
			<td class="thead" nowrap="nowrap">Go to Page...</td>
		</tr>
		<tr>
			<td class="vbmenu_option" title="nohilite">
			<form action="index.php" method="get" onsubmit="return this.gotopage()" id="pagenav_form">
				<input type="text" class="bginput" id="pagenav_itxt" style="font-size:11px" size="4" />
				<input type="button" class="button" id="pagenav_ibtn" value="Go" />
			</form>
			</td>
		</tr>
		</table>
	</div>
<!-- / PAGENAV POPUP -->










<a name="poststop" id="poststop"></a>

<!-- controls above postbits -->
<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%" style="margin-bottom:3px">
<tr valign="bottom">
	
		<td class="smallfont">&nbsp;</td>
	
	
</tr>
</table>
<!-- / controls above postbits -->

<!-- toolbar -->
<table class="tborder" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center" style="border-bottom-width:0px">
<tr>
	<td class="tcat" width="100%">
		<div class="smallfont">
		
		&nbsp;
		</div>
	</td>
	<td class="vbmenu_control" id="threadtools" nowrap="nowrap">
		<a href="/showthread.php?mode=threaded&amp;p=2036705&amp;nojs=1#goto_threadtools">Thread Tools</a>
		<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("threadtools"); </script>
	</td>
	
	
	
	<td class="vbmenu_control" id="displaymodes" nowrap="nowrap">
		<a href="/showthread.php?mode=threaded&amp;p=2036705&amp;nojs=1#goto_displaymodes">Display Modes</a>
		<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("displaymodes"); </script>
	</td>
	

	

</tr>
</table>
<!-- / toolbar -->



<!-- end content table -->

		</div>
	</div>
</div>

<!-- / close content container -->
<!-- / end content table -->


<!-- thread posts list -->
<script type="text/javascript">
<!--
var imgdir_statusicon = "images/statusicon";
var imgdir_misc = "images/misc";
var cleargifurl = "clear.gif";
var guestphrase = "Guest";
var morephrase = "More replies below current depth...";
var highlightwords = "";
//-->
</script>
<script type="text/javascript" src="clientscript/vbulletin_thrdpostlist.js?v=3811"></script>
<script type="text/javascript">
<!--
// initialize some variables
var curpostid = 2036705;
var quickreply = false;

// cached posts (no page reload required to view)
pd[2036653] = '<!-' + '- post #2036653 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit2036653" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post2036653" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=2036653&amp;postcount=1" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount2036653" name="1"><strong>1</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post2036653"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				11-19-2020, 07:44 AM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			<td class="alt2"><a href="member.php?u=628617"><img src="image.php?u=628617&amp;dateline=1601939491"   alt="Seven\'s Avatar" border="0" /></a></td>\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_2036653">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=628617">Seven</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="Seven is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_2036653", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\nJames M.\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Member\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: Jul 2019</div>\r\n					<div>Location: New York</div>\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 1,657\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_2036653">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				<strong>Very Interesting How Certain Stars are valued</strong>\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_2036653">\r\n			\r\n			As I find myself delving into many of the Prewar sets, looking at greats of the game from a long time ago, It\'s pretty incredible in my book, how some of the games greats are valued, in terms of their cards.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nCobbs have been on the rise, Wagner always sells, Joe Jackson\'s fame from the scandal still keeps his prices strong, Cy Young, Walter Johnson, I can go on. But then we look at players like Nap Lajoie or Eddie Collins, both prolific players, both stars of their time. And their cards, are dare I say, relatively cheap to their contemporaries.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nEven as we venture into the 30\'s. Paul Waner, another member of the 3000 hit club, you can find his cards for a good price. What surprises me the most out of all these guys is Ted Williams, granted his prices are a tad higher than the names that I have mentioned, but still, quite possibly the single greatest hitter the game has seen, and the prices of his cards, are pretty low. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nI\'m rambling at this point, I just find this fascinating. How the hobby comes to value one former great, where as the other is just lost to time.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				<b><u>Successful Deals With:</u><br />\r\n</b><br />\r\ncharlietheexterminator, todeen, tonyo, Santo10fan<br />\r\nBocabirdman (5x), 8thEastVB, JCMTiger, Rjackson44<br />\r\nRepublicaninmass, 73toppsmann, quinnsryche (2x),<br />\r\nDonscards.\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2036653" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2036653 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2036653_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Seven</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=628617">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=628617" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Seven</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=628617" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Seven</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2036653 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2036653 -' + '->';
pd[2036666] = '<!-' + '- post #2036666 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit2036666" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post2036666" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=2036666&amp;postcount=2" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount2036666" name="2"><strong>2</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post2036666"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				11-19-2020, 08:26 AM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_2036666">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=685393">oldeboo</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="oldeboo is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_2036666", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\nTrey\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Tr.ey Bu0y\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: Aug 2020</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 409\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_2036666">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_2036666">\r\n			\r\n			Somehow bias ends up getting built into the hobby.  I just did a quick glance at Ted Williams vs. Mickey Mantle.  Williams was a 93% first ballot Hall of Famer, while Mantle was at 88%.  Williams was a 19x All Star(who missed WWII years) vs. Mantle at 20x.  Williams 2x AL MVP vs. Mantle\'s 3x.  Williams had a .344 BA vs. Mantle\'s .298.  Mantle clearly had the edge on World Series Championships.  You can compare the stats all you want, but yeah, they aren\'t THAT much different.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nYou can look at one snapshot of 1957 Topps that have a similar availability and the prices aren\'t similar at all.  This was a time when both players were still popular, although at slightly different stages of their careers.  As a baseline I looked at PSA 5 sold examples and Williams cards sell for around $200 give or take and the Mantle examples go in the $700 range.  The Yankees factor?  The World Series titles?  I guess those factor in among other things, but the prices are interesting.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2036666" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2036666 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2036666_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">oldeboo</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=685393">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=685393" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to oldeboo</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=685393" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by oldeboo</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2036666 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2036666 -' + '->';
pd[2036667] = '<!-' + '- post #2036667 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit2036667" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post2036667" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=2036667&amp;postcount=3" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount2036667" name="3"><strong>3</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post2036667"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				11-19-2020, 08:31 AM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_2036667">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=386">packs</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="packs is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_2036667", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Member\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: May 2009</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 9,273\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_2036667">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_2036667">\r\n			\r\n			I think you\'re discounting personality when it comes to Mantle. He was widely regarded as a carefree American icon who got into plenty of trouble with the boys. What are the perceptions of Ted Williams, though? I remember hearing stories of a cold man who didn\'t keep very many people close and alienated his players as a manager. Fondness matters too.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2036667" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2036667 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2036667_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">packs</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=386">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=386" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to packs</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=386" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by packs</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2036667 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2036667 -' + '->';
pd[2036677] = '<!-' + '- post #2036677 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit2036677" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post2036677" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=2036677&amp;postcount=4" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount2036677" name="4"><strong>4</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post2036677"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				11-19-2020, 08:56 AM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_2036677">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=685393">oldeboo</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="oldeboo is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_2036677", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\nTrey\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Tr.ey Bu0y\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: Aug 2020</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 409\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_2036677">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_2036677">\r\n			\r\n			<div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>packs</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=2036667#post2036667" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">I think you\'re discounting personality when it comes to Mantle. He was widely regarded as a carefree American icon who got into plenty of trouble with the boys. What are the perceptions of Ted Williams, though? I remember hearing stories of a cold man who didn\'t keep very many people close and alienated his players as a manager. Fondness matters too.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>That\'s a good point for some of these players that are still relatable to people who watched them and have a first hand remembrance.  To have watched Williams play you would probably be in your late 60s or older and Mantle in your late 50s or older.  There are more people willing to unload a stack of cash for a childhood memory in the Mantle range as another factor.  Is there a tiny Mantle bubble for that?  In 40 years do the prices close on each other some?  Interesting to think about.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2036677" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2036677 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2036677_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">oldeboo</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=685393">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=685393" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to oldeboo</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=685393" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by oldeboo</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2036677 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2036677 -' + '->';
pd[2036680] = '<!-' + '- post #2036680 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit2036680" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post2036680" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=2036680&amp;postcount=5" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount2036680" name="5"><strong>5</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post2036680"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				11-19-2020, 09:05 AM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			<td class="alt2"><a href="member.php?u=628617"><img src="image.php?u=628617&amp;dateline=1601939491"   alt="Seven\'s Avatar" border="0" /></a></td>\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_2036680">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=628617">Seven</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="Seven is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_2036680", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\nJames M.\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Member\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: Jul 2019</div>\r\n					<div>Location: New York</div>\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 1,657\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_2036680">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_2036680">\r\n			\r\n			<div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>oldeboo</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=2036677#post2036677" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">That\'s a good point for some of these players that are still relatable to people who watched them and have a first hand remembrance.  To have watched Williams play you would probably be in your late 60s or older and Mantle in your late 50s or older.  There are more people willing to unload a stack of cash for a childhood memory in the Mantle range as another factor.  Is there a tiny Mantle bubble for that?  In 40 years do the prices close on each other some?  Interesting to think about.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I\'ve actually had conversations about this with other collectors. Basically what it boils down to with Mantle, was that he was an American Icon, and a good portion of the people in the Hobby now were kids and grew up idolizing Mantle. In most cases, if they could have, they passed their love for the Mick down to their kids. Mickey is my primary collecting interest, his cards are really my collections centerpiece, and I was just over a year old, when he passed on.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nI think a guy like Mantle maintains his value. I don\'t see his prices coming down anytime soon, the one thing I think we will see in the case of The Mick, is a lot more of his cards hitting the Market over the next decade or two. I think Mantle transcends the Hobby. It\'s a reason why his 52 Topps is so valuable, it\'s an iconic part of Americana. And sure his other cards are valuable, but nothing close to that card. For the price of a 52 in a PSA 1, you could pick up lower graded copies of his 51 Bowman, 52 Berk Ross, 52 Bowman, and probably still have money left over.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nEddie Collins really surprised me. I picked up one of his t206\'s earlier in the year, probably a little bit of an overpay too because I bought it in Cooperstown, but $200 for a man with over 3000 career hits and 700 steals is pure insanity to me. And to the Williams point, I\'m going to try to tackle a complete run of his career, after a couple of my collecting goals are complete. I better start saving.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				<b><u>Successful Deals With:</u><br />\r\n</b><br />\r\ncharlietheexterminator, todeen, tonyo, Santo10fan<br />\r\nBocabirdman (5x), 8thEastVB, JCMTiger, Rjackson44<br />\r\nRepublicaninmass, 73toppsmann, quinnsryche (2x),<br />\r\nDonscards.\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2036680" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2036680 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2036680_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Seven</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=628617">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=628617" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Seven</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=628617" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Seven</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2036680 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2036680 -' + '->';
pd[2036692] = '<!-' + '- post #2036692 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit2036692" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post2036692" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=2036692&amp;postcount=6" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount2036692" name="6"><strong>6</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post2036692"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				11-19-2020, 09:56 AM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			<td class="alt2"><a href="member.php?u=604304"><img src="image.php?u=604304&amp;dateline=1723051895"   alt="jchcollins\'s Avatar" border="0" /></a></td>\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_2036692">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=604304">jchcollins</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="jchcollins is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_2036692", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\nJohn Collins\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Member\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: Jan 2015</div>\r\n					<div>Location: NC</div>\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 3,712\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_2036692">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_2036692">\r\n			\r\n			Mantle, at least since the early 1980\'s - and a hobby where there was a card shop starting to appear on every corner and not just mail trading and underground hotel shows - is a guy the rules don\'t apply to. He was the favorite collective player of the boomers that took the hobby public, in large part because he was perhaps the perfect player in terms of time and place fit that ever lived in baseball - New York City in the 1950\'s. Due respect, but those who don\'t get that about Mantle at this point likely aren\'t going to. It\'s not about what he did or didn\'t do in comparison to Ted Williams or Willie Mays on the field. It\'s a mystique. Mantle in the card hobby is more popular than anyone, and I\'d include Ruth and Wagner on that list. It has as much to do with how the hobby developed as it does Mantle himself.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				Postwar stars &amp; HOF\'ers. Cubs of all eras. Currently working on 1956, \'63 and \'72 Topps complete sets.\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- edit note -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n				<em>\r\n					\r\n						Last edited by jchcollins; 11-19-2020 at <span class="time">09:58 AM</span>.\r\n					\r\n					\r\n				</em>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / edit note -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2036692" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2036692 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2036692_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">jchcollins</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=604304">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=604304" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to jchcollins</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=604304" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by jchcollins</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2036692 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2036692 -' + '->';
pd[2036705] = '<!-' + '- post #2036705 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit2036705" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post2036705" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=2036705&amp;postcount=7" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount2036705" name="7"><strong>7</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post2036705"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				11-19-2020, 10:35 AM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_2036705">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=623279">Throttlesteer</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="Throttlesteer is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_2036705", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\nAnson\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Member\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: Jan 2018</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 830\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_2036705">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_2036705">\r\n			\r\n			Player fame can definitely be tied to an iconic card as much a famous event or even a poem.  I believe Mantle\'s 52 Topps has a fair amount to do with the values of his other cards.  Sure, Teddy\'s 1939 Play ball is iconic to hard-core collectors.  But it doesn\'t have the same recognition to casual fans and collectors.  Outside of the T206 Wags, its the most famous baseball card.....for a number or reasons.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				An$on Lyt!e\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2036705" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2036705 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2036705_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Throttlesteer</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=623279">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=623279" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Throttlesteer</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=623279" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Throttlesteer</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2036705 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2036705 -' + '->';
pd[2036712] = '<!-' + '- post #2036712 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit2036712" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post2036712" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=2036712&amp;postcount=8" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount2036712" name="8"><strong>8</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post2036712"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				11-19-2020, 11:06 AM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			<td class="alt2"><a href="member.php?u=577439"><img src="image.php?u=577439&amp;dateline=1447684597"   alt="rats60\'s Avatar" border="0" /></a></td>\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_2036712">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=577439">rats60</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="rats60 is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_2036712", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Member\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: Aug 2014</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 3,146\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_2036712">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_2036712">\r\n			\r\n			<div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>Throttlesteer</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=2036705#post2036705" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">Player fame can definitely be tied to an iconic card as much a famous event or even a poem.  I believe Mantle\'s 52 Topps has a fair amount to do with the values of his other cards.  Sure, Teddy\'s 1939 Play ball is iconic to hard-core collectors.  But it doesn\'t have the same recognition to casual fans and collectors.  Outside of the T206 Wags, its the most famous baseball card.....for a number or reasons.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I would partially disagree with this. From the early 70s to the mid 80s the 1952 Topps Mantle was the most valuable Topps card and one of the top 5-10 cards in the hobby. Yet Mantle\'s other cards had similar values to Williams and Mays.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nMantle cards took off in value due to a group of east coast dealers buying up his cards. At a time when the hobby exploded, they marketed them to new collectors, many Yankee fans. This created demand from other collectors due to FOMO as they saw all up arrows in monthly Beckett price guides.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nNow for new collectors today, I would agree that the 1952 Topps Mantle is a factor drawing collectors to his cards. It is the face of Postwar modern cards, a card that collectors desire. It is natural for collectors to be drawn to his other cards because of that.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2036712" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2036712 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2036712_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">rats60</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=577439">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=577439" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to rats60</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=577439" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by rats60</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2036712 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2036712 -' + '->';
pd[2036716] = '<!-' + '- post #2036716 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit2036716" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post2036716" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=2036716&amp;postcount=9" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount2036716" name="9"><strong>9</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post2036716"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				11-19-2020, 11:27 AM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_2036716">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=386">packs</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="packs is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_2036716", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Member\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: May 2009</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 9,273\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_2036716">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_2036716">\r\n			\r\n			You have to be more than just good. George Sisler was about as fine a hitter as there was but who cares, right? <br />\n<br />\nThen there\'s a guy like Satchel Paige. He only played 5 seasons and one game of a 6th. There are no quantifiable stats that would suggest he was one of the greatest pitchers of all time. But he has a story and he has anecdotes and he has a general mystique around him that make his 3 available cards very expensive.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- edit note -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n				<em>\r\n					\r\n						Last edited by packs; 11-19-2020 at <span class="time">11:28 AM</span>.\r\n					\r\n					\r\n				</em>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / edit note -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2036716" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2036716 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2036716_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">packs</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=386">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=386" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to packs</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=386" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by packs</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2036716 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2036716 -' + '->';
pd[2037269] = '<!-' + '- post #2037269 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit2037269" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post2037269" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=2037269&amp;postcount=10" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount2037269" name="10"><strong>10</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post2037269"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				11-21-2020, 11:02 AM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			<td class="alt2"><a href="member.php?u=607424"><img src="image.php?u=607424&amp;dateline=1485205432"   alt="trdcrdkid\'s Avatar" border="0" /></a></td>\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_2037269">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=607424">trdcrdkid</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="trdcrdkid is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_2037269", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\nDavid Kathman\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				member\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: Feb 2015</div>\r\n					<div>Location: Chicago, IL</div>\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 1,575\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_2037269">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_2037269">\r\n			\r\n			<div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>packs</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=2036716#post2036716" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">Then there\'s a guy like Satchel Paige. He only played 5 seasons and one game of a 6th. There are no quantifiable stats that would suggest he was one of the greatest pitchers of all time. But he has a story and he has anecdotes and he has a general mystique around him that make his 3 available cards very expensive.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Actually, there are now pretty good statistics available for the Negro Leagues, thanks to the researchers for the Seamheads Negro Leagues Database. They show Paige in a close competition with Smokey Joe Williams as the greatest pitcher in Negro Leagues history. <br />\r\n<br />\r\n<a href="https://www.seamheads.com/NegroLgs/player.php?playerID=paige01sat" target="_blank">https://www.seamheads.com/NegroLgs/p...rID=paige01sat</a><br />\r\n<br />\r\n<a href="https://www.seamheads.com/NegroLgs/history.php?tab=metrics_at" target="_blank">https://www.seamheads.com/NegroLgs/h...tab=metrics_at</a>\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2037269" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2037269 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2037269_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">trdcrdkid</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=607424">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=607424" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to trdcrdkid</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=607424" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by trdcrdkid</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2037269 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2037269 -' + '->';
pd[2036706] = '<!-' + '- post #2036706 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit2036706" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post2036706" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=2036706&amp;postcount=11" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount2036706" name="11"><strong>11</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post2036706"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				11-19-2020, 10:37 AM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			<td class="alt2"><a href="member.php?u=577439"><img src="image.php?u=577439&amp;dateline=1447684597"   alt="rats60\'s Avatar" border="0" /></a></td>\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_2036706">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=577439">rats60</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="rats60 is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_2036706", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Member\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: Aug 2014</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 3,146\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_2036706">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_2036706">\r\n			\r\n			Stan Musial is another guy that is really under valued compared to ability. Collecting in the 60s, Williams and Musial were the most sought after cards. Next was Mays and Koufax then Mantle. I think Mantle\'s value comes down to one thing. He played for the Yankees. Areas without local teams produced a lot of Yankee fans because they won. They also had a tradition of great players before Mantle - Ruth, Gehrig and DiMaggio.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2036706" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2036706 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2036706_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">rats60</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=577439">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=577439" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to rats60</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=577439" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by rats60</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2036706 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2036706 -' + '->';
pd[2036708] = '<!-' + '- post #2036708 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit2036708" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post2036708" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=2036708&amp;postcount=12" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount2036708" name="12"><strong>12</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post2036708"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				11-19-2020, 10:52 AM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			<td class="alt2"><a href="member.php?u=604304"><img src="image.php?u=604304&amp;dateline=1723051895"   alt="jchcollins\'s Avatar" border="0" /></a></td>\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_2036708">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=604304">jchcollins</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="jchcollins is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_2036708", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\nJohn Collins\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Member\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: Jan 2015</div>\r\n					<div>Location: NC</div>\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 3,712\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_2036708">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_2036708">\r\n			\r\n			To me of all the all time greats who somewhat fell of the radar in terms of the hobby since the 80\'s, it\'s Musial whose treatment is almost criminal. Guy was easily a top 3 player of his era. 3 MVP\'s, 7 batting titles? And for his later cards in midgrade, some aren\'t much more than pocket change. I don\'t mind that I can afford them, but it does seem harsh in looking at their values compared to Clemente or Aaron.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				Postwar stars &amp; HOF\'ers. Cubs of all eras. Currently working on 1956, \'63 and \'72 Topps complete sets.\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- edit note -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n				<em>\r\n					\r\n						Last edited by jchcollins; 11-19-2020 at <span class="time">10:52 AM</span>.\r\n					\r\n					\r\n				</em>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / edit note -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2036708" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2036708 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2036708_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">jchcollins</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=604304">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=604304" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to jchcollins</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=604304" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by jchcollins</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2036708 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2036708 -' + '->';
pd[2036717] = '<!-' + '- post #2036717 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit2036717" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post2036717" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=2036717&amp;postcount=13" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount2036717" name="13"><strong>13</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post2036717"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				11-19-2020, 11:27 AM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_2036717">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=203547">puckpaul</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="puckpaul is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_2036717", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				P.aul Orl,in\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: Oct 2012</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 831\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_2036717">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_2036717">\r\n			\r\n			<div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>packs</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=2036667#post2036667" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">I think you\'re discounting personality when it comes to Mantle. He was widely regarded as a carefree American icon who got into plenty of trouble with the boys. What are the perceptions of Ted Williams, though? I remember hearing stories of a cold man who didn\'t keep very many people close and alienated his players as a manager. Fondness matters too.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div><br />\r\nYes, it’s this. Williams was cold and widely disliked. Mantle was the all-American hero.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2036717" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2036717 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2036717_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">puckpaul</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=203547">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=203547" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to puckpaul</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=203547" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by puckpaul</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2036717 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2036717 -' + '->';
pd[2036720] = '<!-' + '- post #2036720 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit2036720" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post2036720" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=2036720&amp;postcount=14" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount2036720" name="14"><strong>14</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post2036720"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				11-19-2020, 11:36 AM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			<td class="alt2"><a href="member.php?u=688499"><img src="image.php?u=688499&amp;dateline=1601228886"   alt="Casey2296\'s Avatar" border="0" /></a></td>\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_2036720">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=688499">Casey2296</a>\r\n					\r\n<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_online.gif" alt="Casey2296 is online now" border="0" />\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_2036720", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\nIs Mudville so bad?\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Member\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: Sep 2020</div>\r\n					<div>Location: West Coast</div>\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 5,608\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_2036720">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_2036720">\r\n			\r\n			Whats that thing Leon always says? Every thread needs a...\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- attachments -' + '->\r\n			<div style="padding:6px">\r\n\r\n			\r\n\r\n			\r\n\r\n			\r\n				<fieldset class="fieldset">\r\n					<legend>Attached Images</legend>\r\n					<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="3" border="0">\r\n					<tr>\r\n	<td><img class="inlineimg" src="images/attach/jpg.gif" alt="File Type: jpg" width="16" height="16" border="0" style="vertical-align:baseline" /></td>\r\n	<td><a href="attachment.php?attachmentid=426770&amp;d=1605807338">img036.jpg</a> (76.8 KB, 474 views)</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n					</table>\r\n					</fieldset>\r\n			\r\n\r\n			\r\n\r\n			\r\n\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / attachments -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2036720" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2036720 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2036720_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Casey2296</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=688499">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=688499" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Casey2296</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=688499" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Casey2296</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2036720 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2036720 -' + '->';
pd[2036724] = '<!-' + '- post #2036724 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit2036724" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post2036724" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=2036724&amp;postcount=15" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount2036724" name="15"><strong>15</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post2036724"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				11-19-2020, 11:43 AM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_2036724">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=629199">Jgrace</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="Jgrace is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_2036724", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				member\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: Aug 2019</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 26\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_2036724">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				<strong>Very Interesting How Certain Stars are valued</strong>\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_2036724">\r\n			\r\n			<div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>puckpaul</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=2036717#post2036717" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">Yes, it’s this. Williams was cold and widely disliked. Mantle was the all-American hero.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div><br />\nI read his biography.  Interesting person, for sure.  Like many others (see: Cobb), his reputation paints only a small part of the picture of his actual persona.  Everyone is multi-dimensional, and the narrative too often boils it down to something simple.  After all, Mantle was a surly drunk, but that is overlooked due to the aura surrounding his career in the 1950s.<br />\n<br />\nFascinating topic.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- edit note -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n				<em>\r\n					\r\n						Last edited by Jgrace; 11-19-2020 at <span class="time">11:43 AM</span>.\r\n					\r\n					\r\n				</em>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / edit note -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2036724" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2036724 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2036724_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Jgrace</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=629199">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=629199" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Jgrace</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=629199" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Jgrace</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2036724 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2036724 -' + '->';
pd[2036729] = '<!-' + '- post #2036729 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit2036729" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post2036729" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=2036729&amp;postcount=16" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount2036729" name="16"><strong>16</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post2036729"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				11-19-2020, 11:56 AM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_2036729">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=4257">steve B</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="steve B is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_2036729", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\nSteve Birmingham\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Member\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: Sep 2009</div>\r\n					<div>Location: eastern Mass.</div>\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 8,464\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_2036729">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_2036729">\r\n			\r\n			<div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>puckpaul</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=2036717#post2036717" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">Yes, it’s this. Williams was cold and widely disliked. Mantle was the all-American hero.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Mostly a difference in how their local press handled them. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nBoston sports press has always been very harsh with the players. A reflection perhaps of the fans. When Ted came to the majors, he wasn\'t a great fielder. And despite being an incredible hitter, got reamed in the press for his fielding. <br />\r\nAs if he was the only one who had problems with left field at Fenway. <br />\r\n(He was just the beginning of a list of good players who had problems there early in their careers but eventually did alright. Yaz, Rice, Greenwell, Manny... all took the same knock from the press. )<br />\r\n<br />\r\nHe was also I think someone who didn\'t have much tolerance for nonsense like that and simply stopped being all that available to the press. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nThe NY press has always seemed more focused on the positive, preferring to write about hits and homers over misplayed balls that cost the game. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nMantle himself doesn\'t actually seem like all that swell of a guy. If I had a change to hang out with either for a few hours, I\'d pick Williams.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2036729" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2036729 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2036729_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">steve B</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=4257">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=4257" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to steve B</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=4257" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by steve B</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2036729 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2036729 -' + '->';
pd[2036751] = '<!-' + '- post #2036751 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit2036751" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post2036751" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=2036751&amp;postcount=17" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount2036751" name="17"><strong>17</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post2036751"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				11-19-2020, 01:01 PM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			<td class="alt2"><a href="member.php?u=79826"><img src="image.php?u=79826&amp;dateline=1364702440"   alt="earlywynnfan\'s Avatar" border="0" /></a></td>\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_2036751">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=79826">earlywynnfan</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="earlywynnfan is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_2036751", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Ke.n Su.lik\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: Apr 2011</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 2,270\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_2036751">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_2036751">\r\n			\r\n			<div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>puckpaul</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=2036717#post2036717" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">Yes, it’s this. Williams was cold and widely disliked. Mantle was the all-American hero.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I am not saying I disagree with this public perception, I just finding striking considering, off the field, Williams WAS a hero.  Not only did he serve his country, but he had a drive to succeed that is quite admirable.  Mantle, off the field, tried to drink himself to death.  Yet I would bet many, including me, would love to have fun-guy Mantle as their next door neighbor.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2036751" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2036751 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2036751_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">earlywynnfan</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=79826">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=79826" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to earlywynnfan</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=79826" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by earlywynnfan</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2036751 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2036751 -' + '->';
pd[2036723] = '<!-' + '- post #2036723 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit2036723" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post2036723" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=2036723&amp;postcount=18" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount2036723" name="18"><strong>18</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post2036723"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				11-19-2020, 11:41 AM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			<td class="alt2"><a href="member.php?u=22820"><img src="image.php?u=22820&amp;dateline=1323579353"   alt="Bigdaddy\'s Avatar" border="0" /></a></td>\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_2036723">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=22820">Bigdaddy</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="Bigdaddy is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_2036723", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\n+0m J()rd@N\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Member\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: Oct 2010</div>\r\n					<div>Location: VA</div>\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 2,069\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_2036723">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_2036723">\r\n			\r\n			<div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>packs</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=2036667#post2036667" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">I think you\'re discounting personality when it comes to Mantle. He was widely regarded as a carefree American icon who got into plenty of trouble with the boys. What are the perceptions of Ted Williams, though? I remember hearing stories of a cold man who didn\'t keep very many people close and alienated his players as a manager. Fondness matters too.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>And which of those two categories would you put Cobb in?  Methinks it would be the second, but his cards demand prices like the first.<br />\n<br />\nAnd I\'d put Yogi and Whitey in the first category, but their prices are second tier.  Yogi, for one, is at least as high in the conversation of greatest catchers as Mick is in greatest CFs.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				<b>Working Sets:</b><br />\r\nBaseball-<br />\r\nT206 SLers - Virginia League (-1)<br />\r\n1952 Topps - low numbers (-1)<br />\r\n1953 Topps (-54)<br />\r\n1954 Bowman (-2)<br />\r\n1964 Topps Giants auto\'d (-2)\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- edit note -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n				<em>\r\n					\r\n						Last edited by Bigdaddy; 11-19-2020 at <span class="time">11:44 AM</span>.\r\n					\r\n					\r\n				</em>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / edit note -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2036723" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2036723 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2036723_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Bigdaddy</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=22820">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=22820" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Bigdaddy</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=22820" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Bigdaddy</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2036723 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2036723 -' + '->';
pd[2036726] = '<!-' + '- post #2036726 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit2036726" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post2036726" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=2036726&amp;postcount=19" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount2036726" name="19"><strong>19</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post2036726"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				11-19-2020, 11:46 AM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_2036726">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=386">packs</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="packs is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_2036726", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Member\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: May 2009</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 9,273\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_2036726">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_2036726">\r\n			\r\n			<div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>Bigdaddy</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=2036723#post2036723" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">And which of those two categories would you put Cobb in?  Methinks it would be the second, but his cards demand prices like the first.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nAnd I\'d put Yogi and Whitey in the first category, but their prices are second tier.  Yogi, for one, is at least as high in the conversation of greatest catchers as Mick is in greatest CFs.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div><br />\r\nI don\'t think that at all. Cobb is seen as king and his green portrait is as good as currency. Cobb lived and played at a time when baseball became baseball. He was the star of all stars when the game cemented itself as a true past time. No one was larger in his prime and he was the standard until Ruth started hitting homers.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2036726" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2036726 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2036726_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">packs</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=386">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=386" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to packs</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=386" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by packs</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2036726 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2036726 -' + '->';
pd[2036874] = '<!-' + '- post #2036874 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit2036874" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post2036874" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=2036874&amp;postcount=20" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount2036874" name="20"><strong>20</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post2036874"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				11-19-2020, 06:56 PM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			<td class="alt2"><a href="member.php?u=544"><img src="image.php?u=544&amp;dateline=1241392899"   alt="Fred\'s Avatar" border="0" /></a></td>\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_2036874">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=544">Fred</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="Fred is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_2036874", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\nFred\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Member\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: May 2009</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 3,364\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_2036874">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_2036874">\r\n			\r\n			<div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>oldeboo</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=2036666#post2036666" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">Somehow bias ends up getting built into the hobby.  I just did a quick glance at Ted Williams vs. Mickey Mantle.  Williams was a 93% first ballot Hall of Famer, while Mantle was at 88%.  Williams was a 19x All Star(who missed WWII years) vs. Mantle at 20x.  Williams 2x AL MVP vs. Mantle\'s 3x.  Williams had a .344 BA vs. Mantle\'s .298.  Mantle clearly had the edge on World Series Championships.  You can compare the stats all you want, but yeah, they aren\'t THAT much different.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nYou can look at one snapshot of 1957 Topps that have a similar availability and the prices aren\'t similar at all.  This was a time when both players were still popular, although at slightly different stages of their careers.  As a baseline I looked at PSA 5 sold examples and Williams cards sell for around $200 give or take and the Mantle examples go in the $700 range.  The Yankees factor?  The World Series titles?  I guess those factor in among other things, but the prices are interesting.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div><br />\r\nTrey, he was the Mick.  Toast of the town, very popular with fans.  Williams (IMHO - was hands down much better than Mantle with a bat) was stand-offish.  I guess that really shouldn\'t matter -  the prices seem to reflect on the popularity of the players. If given a choice to have a Mantle rookie or Williams rookie, I\'d take the Mantle because I could sell it and buy every frigging Williams card made.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nJust curious, why do you think the Micks cards are valued higher?\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				fr3d c0wl3s - always looking for OJs and other 19th century stuff.  PM or email me if you have something <br />\r\ncool you\'re looking to find a new home for.\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2036874" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2036874 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2036874_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Fred</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=544">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=544" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Fred</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=544" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Fred</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2036874 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2036874 -' + '->';
pd[2036882] = '<!-' + '- post #2036882 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit2036882" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post2036882" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=2036882&amp;postcount=21" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount2036882" name="21"><strong>21</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post2036882"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				11-19-2020, 07:58 PM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_2036882">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=685393">oldeboo</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="oldeboo is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_2036882", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\nTrey\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Tr.ey Bu0y\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: Aug 2020</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 409\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_2036882">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_2036882">\r\n			\r\n			<div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>Fred</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=2036874#post2036874" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">Trey, he was the Mick.  Toast of the town, very popular with fans.  Williams (IMHO - was hands down much better than Mantle with a bat) was stand-offish.  I guess that really shouldn\'t matter -  the prices seem to reflect on the popularity of the players. If given a choice to have a Mantle rookie or Williams rookie, I\'d take the Mantle because I could sell it and buy every frigging Williams card made.  <br />\n<br />\nJust curious, why do you think the Micks cards are valued higher?</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Well, I wasn\'t exactly trying to say Mantle cards are overvalued as much as agreeing with the OP that there are many great players that sell at much lower prices than the 1% of 1%(Cobb, Wagner, Jackson, Ruth, Mantle, Trout <img src="forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" /> and maybe a couple others).  I just think it\'s interesting from a baseball perspective that there\'s not a huge difference between Mantle and Williams, so it certainly is a combination of factors.<br />\n<br />\n-As many alluded to, it seems Mantle was widely regarded as just a good ole\' American boy that was highly liked.<br />\n<br />\n-The importance of his 1952 Topps card and to a much lesser degree I\'d say 51B, 52B, and even 53T.  They are all great looking cards.  This was a time when the modern baseball card industry was just starting and Mantle was becoming the face of baseball during that time.  If Mantle\'s first year was in, say 1968, would his cards sell for silly money if there were tons of them?  They would still have really strong prices, but not short print, beginning of an industry prices in my opinion.  The mystique of the 1952 Topps card naturally drives all of his prices up because people want a little piece of the action that can\'t afford the big ticket cards.  I know it seems silly, but there are people out there that go nuts for pulling a 2020 base card of Trout from a pack, why?<br />\n<br />\n-Playing for the Yankees and winning a bunch of rings <br />\n<br />\n-What became a major influence to public opinion in the 1950s?  The television.  As time goes on I think we forget things like this.  Mantle was one of the first sports figures to ever get the spotlight on television in the large media market of NY.  Think of landing on the moon in the 60s.  Does it become such an iconic moment in human history without the television?  It had great global implications regardless, but moments like that defined culture and life in similar ways to baseball.  The TV made that happen.<br />\n<br />\nThose are just a few off the top of my head.  Again, not taking anything away from him at all, but there are many factors that help contribute to the mystique beyond stats or being a great guy.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- edit note -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n				<em>\r\n					\r\n						Last edited by oldeboo; 11-19-2020 at <span class="time">08:14 PM</span>.\r\n					\r\n					\r\n				</em>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / edit note -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2036882" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2036882 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2036882_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">oldeboo</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=685393">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=685393" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to oldeboo</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=685393" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by oldeboo</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2036882 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2036882 -' + '->';
pd[2036883] = '<!-' + '- post #2036883 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit2036883" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post2036883" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=2036883&amp;postcount=22" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount2036883" name="22"><strong>22</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post2036883"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				11-19-2020, 08:01 PM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			<td class="alt2"><a href="member.php?u=104352"><img src="image.php?u=104352&amp;dateline=1615192218"   alt="Mark17\'s Avatar" border="0" /></a></td>\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_2036883">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=104352">Mark17</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="Mark17 is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_2036883", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\nM@rk S@tterstr0m\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Member\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: Aug 2011</div>\r\n					<div>Location: Minnesota</div>\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 2,348\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_2036883">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_2036883">\r\n			\r\n			<div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>Fred</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=2036874#post2036874" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic"><br />\r\nJust curious, why do you think the Micks cards are valued higher?</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Mantle represents everything: Speed, defense, power and average from both sides of the plate, and throughout his career, his Yankees were winners.  Mantle was Superman in pinstripes.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nTed couldn\'t play defense and wasn\'t much interested in it, or other aspects of the game.  He was a smart baserunner but had no real speed.  His team only won a single pennant and in that WS he hit poorly.  Unlike Mantle, Ted was not a winner.  He was a one-dimensional player.  A hitting machine.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nSo if you\'re a kid, or even an adult, do you dream of being Mickey Mantle in yet another World Series, smashing home runs from both sides of the plate, stealing bases, making a great catch in center field to save Larsen\'s perfect game, and being on the cover of all the magazines with another championship?<br />\r\n<br />\r\nOr do you dream of being Ted Williams, a great hitter on a third place team, finishing 12 games out of first place, again.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2036883" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2036883 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2036883_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Mark17</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=104352">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=104352" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Mark17</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=104352" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Mark17</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2036883 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2036883 -' + '->';
pd[2036884] = '<!-' + '- post #2036884 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit2036884" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post2036884" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=2036884&amp;postcount=23" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount2036884" name="23"><strong>23</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post2036884"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				11-19-2020, 08:12 PM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			<td class="alt2"><a href="member.php?u=544"><img src="image.php?u=544&amp;dateline=1241392899"   alt="Fred\'s Avatar" border="0" /></a></td>\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_2036884">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=544">Fred</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="Fred is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_2036884", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\nFred\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Member\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: May 2009</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 3,364\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_2036884">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_2036884">\r\n			\r\n			Trey and Mark,<br />\r\n<br />\r\nGreat perspectives.  One thing to consider Mark is that a lot of people aren\'t looking at what you indicated (overall well rounded Mantle vs offensively obscene Williams.  William was more one dimensional in that respect, but it was  one helluva dimension.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nFun thread - love reading the posts on the topic.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				fr3d c0wl3s - always looking for OJs and other 19th century stuff.  PM or email me if you have something <br />\r\ncool you\'re looking to find a new home for.\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2036884" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2036884 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2036884_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Fred</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=544">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=544" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Fred</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=544" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Fred</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2036884 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2036884 -' + '->';
pd[2036887] = '<!-' + '- post #2036887 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit2036887" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post2036887" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=2036887&amp;postcount=24" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount2036887" name="24"><strong>24</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post2036887"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				11-19-2020, 08:33 PM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			<td class="alt2"><a href="member.php?u=577439"><img src="image.php?u=577439&amp;dateline=1447684597"   alt="rats60\'s Avatar" border="0" /></a></td>\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_2036887">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=577439">rats60</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="rats60 is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_2036887", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Member\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: Aug 2014</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 3,146\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_2036887">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_2036887">\r\n			\r\n			<div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>Mark17</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=2036883#post2036883" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">Mantle represents everything: Speed, defense, power and average from both sides of the plate, and throughout his career, his Yankees were winners.  Mantle was Superman in pinstripes.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Mays was better in every phase of the game and his cards suffer the same fate as Williams. It is much simpler than all that. It is just being the star of the Yankees during the adolescence of baby boomers. Put Willie or Ted on the Yankees and we are talking about them being the face of Postwar Vintage.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2036887" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2036887 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2036887_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">rats60</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=577439">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=577439" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to rats60</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=577439" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by rats60</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2036887 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2036887 -' + '->';
pd[2036892] = '<!-' + '- post #2036892 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit2036892" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post2036892" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=2036892&amp;postcount=25" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount2036892" name="25"><strong>25</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post2036892"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				11-19-2020, 08:41 PM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			<td class="alt2"><a href="member.php?u=104352"><img src="image.php?u=104352&amp;dateline=1615192218"   alt="Mark17\'s Avatar" border="0" /></a></td>\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_2036892">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=104352">Mark17</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="Mark17 is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_2036892", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\nM@rk S@tterstr0m\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Member\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: Aug 2011</div>\r\n					<div>Location: Minnesota</div>\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 2,348\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_2036892">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_2036892">\r\n			\r\n			<div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>rats60</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=2036887#post2036887" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">Mays was better in every phase of the game and his cards suffer the same fate as Williams. It is much simpler than all that. It is just being the star of the Yankees during the adolescence of baby boomers. Put Willie or Ted on the Yankees and we are talking about them being the face of Postwar Vintage.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I\'ve always thought that if I was a GM I\'d rather have Mays than Mantle.  Either way you get the power, speed, average, great defense, and with Mays you get a longer career with more total production, and no injury issues to work around.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nPeople love winning.  The Yankees did a lot of winning.  Had Ted or Willie been with the Yankees I think you\'re right - then they would\'ve been perennial winners and at the center of the baseball world instead of MM.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2036892" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2036892 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2036892_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Mark17</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=104352">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=104352" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Mark17</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=104352" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Mark17</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2036892 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2036892 -' + '->';
pd[2036893] = '<!-' + '- post #2036893 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit2036893" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post2036893" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=2036893&amp;postcount=26" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount2036893" name="26"><strong>26</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post2036893"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				11-19-2020, 08:46 PM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_2036893">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=645433">Wanaselja</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="Wanaselja is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_2036893", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\nAdam\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Adam Wan.aselja\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: Mar 2020</div>\r\n					<div>Location: NY</div>\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 721\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_2036893">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_2036893">\r\n			\r\n			<div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>rats60</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=2036887#post2036887" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">Mays was better in every phase of the game and his cards suffer the same fate as Williams. It is much simpler than all that. It is just being the star of the Yankees during the adolescence of baby boomers. Put Willie or Ted on the Yankees and we are talking about them being the face of Postwar Vintage.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Agreed. Put Derek Jeter on the Royals and he&#8217;s a first ballot HOFer collectors don&#8217;t care about. <br />\nI think the pendulum swings back as newer, more analytically inclined collectors, look at the numbers Mays, Musial, Williams etc. put up. They&#8217;ll engage in the same thought exercise and conclude that the talent gap does not equal the value gap regardless of mythology.<br />\n<br />\nNote: I am a Met fan.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- edit note -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n				<em>\r\n					\r\n						Last edited by Wanaselja; 11-19-2020 at <span class="time">08:47 PM</span>.\r\n					\r\n					\r\n				</em>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / edit note -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2036893" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2036893 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2036893_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Wanaselja</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=645433">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=645433" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Wanaselja</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=645433" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Wanaselja</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2036893 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2036893 -' + '->';

// next/previous post info
pn[2036653] = "2036903,2036666";
pn[0] = ",2036653";
pn[2036666] = "2036653,2036667";
pn[2036667] = "2036666,2036677";
pn[2036677] = "2036667,2036680";
pn[2036680] = "2036677,2036692";
pn[2036692] = "2036680,2036705";
pn[2036705] = "2036692,2036712";
pn[2036712] = "2036705,2036716";
pn[2036716] = "2036712,2037269";
pn[2037269] = "2036716,2036706";
pn[2036706] = "2037269,2036708";
pn[2036708] = "2036706,2036717";
pn[2036717] = "2036708,2036720";
pn[2036720] = "2036717,2036724";
pn[2036724] = "2036720,2036729";
pn[2036729] = "2036724,2036737";
pn[2036737] = "2036729,2036751";
pn[2036751] = "2036737,2036723";
pn[2036723] = "2036751,2036726";
pn[2036726] = "2036723,2036874";
pn[2036874] = "2036726,2036882";
pn[2036882] = "2036874,2036883";
pn[2036883] = "2036882,2036884";
pn[2036884] = "2036883,2036887";
pn[2036887] = "2036884,2036891";
pn[2036891] = "2036887,2036892";
pn[2036892] = "2036891,2036893";
pn[2036893] = "2036892,2036903";
pn[2036903] = "2036893,2036653";

// cached usernames
pu[0] = guestphrase;
pu[628617] = "Seven";
pu[685393] = "oldeboo";
pu[386] = "packs";
pu[604304] = "jchcollins";
pu[623279] = "Throttlesteer";
pu[577439] = "rats60";
pu[203547] = "puckpaul";
pu[688499] = "Casey2296";
pu[22820] = "Bigdaddy";
pu[629199] = "Jgrace";
pu[4257] = "steve B";
pu[2975] = "skelly423";
pu[79826] = "earlywynnfan";
pu[617066] = "Snapolit1";
pu[622072] = "luciobar1980";
pu[626035] = "Ricky";
pu[616859] = "Yoda";
pu[228384] = "vintagebaseballcardguy";
pu[630024] = "cardsagain74";
pu[544] = "Fred";
pu[104352] = "Mark17";
pu[645433] = "Wanaselja";
pu[69] = "ullmandds";
pu[330055] = "todeen";
pu[13680] = "Tabe";
pu[134] = "doug.goodman";
pu[702588] = "Vegas Cards";
pu[203647] = "Eric72";
pu[1] = "Leon";
pu[537] = "Jason19th";
pu[607424] = "trdcrdkid";

// -->
</script>

<!-- open content container -->

<div align="center">
	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">
		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">


<table class="tborder" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center" style="border-top-width:0px; margin-bottom:6px">
<tr>
	<td class="alt2">
	<div style="height:150px;  overflow:auto; border:2px inset; padding: 0px; text-align:left;" class="alt1" id="links">
		<div class="smallfont">
		<!-- start post links -->
<script type="text/javascript">
<!--
writeLink(2036653, 0, 0, 628617, "", "Very Interesting How Certain...", "11-19-2020", "07:44 AM", 0);
  writeLink(2036666, 0, 0, 685393, "L", "<i>Somehow bias ends up getting...</i>", "11-19-2020", "08:26 AM", 0);
    writeLink(2036667, 0, 0, 386, "1,T", "<i>I think you're discounting...</i>", "11-19-2020", "08:31 AM", 0);
      writeLink(2036677, 0, 0, 685393, "1,I,T", "<i>That's a good point for some...</i>", "11-19-2020", "08:56 AM", 0);
        writeLink(2036680, 0, 0, 628617, "1,I,I,L", "<i>I've actually had...</i>", "11-19-2020", "09:05 AM", 0);
          writeLink(2036692, 0, 0, 604304, "1,I,I,1,L", "<i>Mantle, at least since the...</i>", "11-19-2020", "09:56 AM", 0);
            writeLink(2036705, 0, 0, 623279, "1,I,I,2,T", "<i>Player fame can definitely be...</i>", "11-19-2020", "10:35 AM", 0);
              writeLink(2036712, 0, 0, 577439, "1,I,I,2,I,L", "<i>I would partially disagree...</i>", "11-19-2020", "11:06 AM", 0);
                writeLink(2036716, 0, 0, 386, "1,I,I,2,I,1,L", "<i>You have to be more than just...</i>", "11-19-2020", "11:27 AM", 0);
                  writeLink(2037269, 0, 0, 607424, "1,I,I,2,I,2,L", "<i>Actually, there are now...</i>", "11-21-2020", "11:02 AM", 0);
            writeLink(2036706, 0, 0, 577439, "1,I,I,2,L", "<i>Stan Musial is another guy...</i>", "11-19-2020", "10:37 AM", 0);
              writeLink(2036708, 0, 0, 604304, "1,I,I,3,L", "<i>To me of all the all time...</i>", "11-19-2020", "10:52 AM", 0);
      writeLink(2036717, 0, 0, 203547, "1,I,T", "<i>Yes, it’s this. Williams was...</i>", "11-19-2020", "11:27 AM", 0);
        writeLink(2036720, 0, 1, 688499, "1,I,I,T", "<i>Whats that thing Leon always...</i>", "11-19-2020", "11:36 AM", 0);
        writeLink(2036724, 0, 0, 629199, "1,I,I,T", "Very Interesting How Certain...", "11-19-2020", "11:43 AM", 0);
        writeLink(2036729, 0, 0, 4257, "1,I,I,T", "<i>Mostly a difference in how...</i>", "11-19-2020", "11:56 AM", 0);
          writeLink(2036737, 0, 0, 0, "1,I,I,I,L", "", "more", "", 0);
        writeLink(2036751, 0, 0, 79826, "1,I,I,L", "<i>I am not saying I disagree...</i>", "11-19-2020", "01:01 PM", 0);
      writeLink(2036723, 0, 0, 22820, "1,I,L", "<i>And which of those two...</i>", "11-19-2020", "11:41 AM", 0);
        writeLink(2036726, 0, 0, 386, "1,I,1,L", "<i>I don't think that at all....</i>", "11-19-2020", "11:46 AM", 0);
    writeLink(2036874, 0, 0, 544, "1,L", "<i>Trey, he was the Mick.  Toast...</i>", "11-19-2020", "06:56 PM", 0);
      writeLink(2036882, 0, 0, 685393, "2,T", "<i>Well, I wasn't exactly trying...</i>", "11-19-2020", "07:58 PM", 0);
      writeLink(2036883, 0, 0, 104352, "2,L", "<i>Mantle represents everything:...</i>", "11-19-2020", "08:01 PM", 0);
        writeLink(2036884, 0, 0, 544, "3,T", "<i>Trey and Mark, \n \nGreat...</i>", "11-19-2020", "08:12 PM", 0);
        writeLink(2036887, 0, 0, 577439, "3,L", "<i>Mays was better in every...</i>", "11-19-2020", "08:33 PM", 0);
          writeLink(2036891, 0, 0, 0, "4,T", "", "more", "", 0);
          writeLink(2036892, 0, 0, 104352, "4,T", "<i>I've always thought that if I...</i>", "11-19-2020", "08:41 PM", 0);
          writeLink(2036893, 0, 0, 645433, "4,T", "<i>Agreed. Put Derek Jeter on...</i>", "11-19-2020", "08:46 PM", 0);
          writeLink(2036903, 0, 0, 0, "4,L", "", "more", "", 0);

//-->
</script>
		<!-- end post links -->
		</div>
	</div>
	</td>
</tr>

<tr>
	<td class="tfoot" align="center"><div class="smallfont">
		<a href="javascript:showPrevNextPost(0)">Prev</a>
		<a href="javascript:showPrevNextPost(0)"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/sortdesc.gif" alt="Previous Post" border="0" /></a>
		&nbsp;
		<a href="javascript:showPrevNextPost(1)"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/sortasc.gif" alt="Next Post" border="0" /></a>
		<a href="javascript:showPrevNextPost(1)">Next</a>
	</div></td>
</tr>

</table>


		</div>
	</div>
</div>

<!-- / close content container -->
<!-- /thread posts list -->




<div id="posts"><!-- post #2036705 -->

	<!-- open content container -->

<div align="center">
	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">
		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">

	<div id="edit2036705" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">
	<!-- this is not the last post shown on the page -->



<table class="tborder" id="post2036705" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">
<tr>
	<td class="thead" >
		<div class="normal" style="float:right">
			&nbsp;
			#<a href="showpost.php?p=2036705&amp;postcount=7" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount2036705" name="7"><strong>7</strong></a> &nbsp;
			
			
			
			
			
		</div>

		<div class="normal">
			<!-- status icon and date -->
			<a name="post2036705"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>
			
				11-19-2020, 10:35 AM
			
			
			<!-- / status icon and date -->
		</div>
	</td>
</tr>
<tr>
	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">
		<!-- user info -->
		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">
		<tr>
			
			<td nowrap="nowrap">

				<div id="postmenu_2036705">
					
					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=623279">Throttlesteer</a>
					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="Throttlesteer is offline" border="0" />


					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_2036705", true); </script>
					
				</div>
Anson
<div class="smallfont">
				Member
</div>
				
				

			</td>
			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>
			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">

				<div class="smallfont">
					<div>Join Date: Jan 2018</div>
					
					
					<div>
						Posts: 830
					</div>
					
					
					
					
					<div>    </div>
				</div>

			</td>
		</tr>
		</table>
		<!-- / user info -->
	</td>
</tr>
<tr>
	
	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_2036705">
		
	<!-- message, attachments, sig -->

		

		
			<!-- icon and title -->
			<div class="smallfont">
				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />
				
			</div>
			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />
			<!-- / icon and title -->
		

		<!-- message -->
		<div id="post_message_2036705">
			
			Player fame can definitely be tied to an iconic card as much a famous event or even a poem.  I believe Mantle's 52 Topps has a fair amount to do with the values of his other cards.  Sure, Teddy's 1939 Play ball is iconic to hard-core collectors.  But it doesn't have the same recognition to casual fans and collectors.  Outside of the T206 Wags, its the most famous baseball card.....for a number or reasons.
		</div>
		<!-- / message -->

		

		
		

		
		<!-- sig -->
			<div>
				__________________<br />
				An$on Lyt!e
			</div>
		<!-- / sig -->
		

		

		

		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">
			<!-- controls -->
			
			
			
				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2036705" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
				
			
			
			<!-- / controls -->
		</div>

	<!-- message, attachments, sig -->

	</td>
</tr>
</table>


<!-- post 2036705 popup menu -->
<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2036705_menu" style="display:none;">
	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">
	<tr>
		<td class="thead">Throttlesteer</td>
	</tr>
	
		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=623279">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>
	
	
		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=623279" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Throttlesteer</a></td></tr>
	
	
	
	
		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=623279" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Throttlesteer</a></td></tr>
	
	
	
	</table>
</div>
<!-- / post 2036705 popup menu -->


	</div>
	
		</div>
	</div>
</div>

<!-- / close content container -->

<!-- / post #2036705 --><div id="lastpost"></div></div>

<!-- start content table -->
<!-- open content container -->

<div align="center">
	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">
		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">

<!-- / start content table -->

<!-- controls below postbits -->
<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%" style="margin-top:-3px">
<tr valign="top">
	
		<td class="smallfont">&nbsp;</td>
	
	
</tr>
</table>
<!-- / controls below postbits -->










<!-- lightbox scripts -->
	<script type="text/javascript" src="clientscript/vbulletin_lightbox.js?v=3811"></script>
	<script type="text/javascript">
	<!--
	vBulletin.register_control("vB_Lightbox_Container", "posts", 1);
	//-->
	</script>
<!-- / lightbox scripts -->










<!-- next / previous links -->
	<br />
	<div class="smallfont" align="center">
		<strong>&laquo;</strong>
			<a href="showthread.php?t=292050&amp;goto=nextoldest" rel="nofollow">Previous Thread</a>
			|
			<a href="showthread.php?t=292050&amp;goto=nextnewest" rel="nofollow">Next Thread</a>
		<strong>&raquo;</strong>
	</div>
<!-- / next / previous links -->

<br />

<br />

<!-- IFRAME PRE-WAR CARDS APP -->
<iframe src="http://net54baseball.com/forum/content/ebaylinks.html" width="100%" height="85" style="border:none;padding:0;margin:0;"></iframe>

<!-- END IFRAME PRE-WAR CARDS APP -->









<!-- popup menu contents -->
<br />

<!-- thread tools menu -->
<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="threadtools_menu" style="display:none">
<form action="postings.php?t=292050&amp;pollid=" method="post" name="threadadminform">
	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">
	<tr>
		<td class="thead">Thread Tools<a name="goto_threadtools"></a></td>
	</tr>
	<tr>
		<td class="vbmenu_option"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/printer.gif" alt="Show Printable Version" /> <a href="printthread.php?t=292050" accesskey="3" rel="nofollow">Show Printable Version</a></td>
	</tr>
	
	
	
	
	</table>
</form>
</div>
<!-- / thread tools menu -->

<!-- **************************************************** -->

<!-- thread display mode menu -->
<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="displaymodes_menu" style="display:none">
	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">
	<tr>
		<td class="thead">Display Modes<a name="goto_displaymodes"></a></td>
	</tr>
	<tr>
	
		<td class="vbmenu_option"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/mode_linear.gif" alt="Linear Mode" /> <a href="showthread.php?p=2036705&amp;mode=linear#post2036705">Switch to Linear Mode</a></td>
	
	</tr>
	<tr>
	
		<td class="vbmenu_option"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/mode_hybrid.gif" alt="Hybrid Mode" /> <a href="showthread.php?mode=hybrid&amp;t=292050">Switch to Hybrid Mode</a></td>
	
	</tr>
	<tr>
	
		<td class="vbmenu_option" title="nohilite"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/mode_threaded.gif" alt="Threaded Mode" /> <strong>Threaded Mode</strong></td>
	
	</tr>
	</table>
</div>
<!-- / thread display mode menu -->

<!-- **************************************************** -->



<!-- **************************************************** -->



<!-- / popup menu contents -->


<!-- forum rules and admin links -->
<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%" align="center">
<tr valign="bottom">
	<td width="100%" valign="top">
		
<table class="tborder" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="210">
<thead>
<tr>
	<td class="thead">
		<a style="float:right" href="#top" onclick="return toggle_collapse('forumrules')"><img id="collapseimg_forumrules" src="images/buttons/collapse_thead.gif" alt="" border="0" /></a>
		Posting Rules
	</td>
</tr>
</thead>
<tbody id="collapseobj_forumrules" style="">
<tr>
	<td class="alt1" nowrap="nowrap"><div class="smallfont">
		
		<div>You <strong>may not</strong> post new threads</div>
		<div>You <strong>may not</strong> post replies</div>
		<div>You <strong>may not</strong> post attachments</div>
		<div>You <strong>may not</strong> edit your posts</div>
		<hr />
		
		<div><a href="misc.php?do=bbcode" target="_blank">BB code</a> is <strong>On</strong></div>
		<div><a href="misc.php?do=showsmilies" target="_blank">Smilies</a> are <strong>On</strong></div>
		<div><a href="misc.php?do=bbcode#imgcode" target="_blank">[IMG]</a> code is <strong>On</strong></div>
		<div>HTML code is <strong>On</strong></div>
		<hr />
		<div><a href="misc.php?do=showrules" target="_blank">Forum Rules</a></div>
	</div></td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
	</td>
	<td class="smallfont" align="right">
		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0">
		
		<tr>
			<td>
			
<div class="smallfont" style="text-align:left; white-space:nowrap">
	<form action="forumdisplay.php" method="get">
	<input type="hidden" name="s" value="" />
	<input type="hidden" name="daysprune" value="" />
	<strong>Forum Jump</strong><br />
	<select name="f" onchange="this.form.submit();">
		<optgroup label="Site Areas">
			<option value="cp" >User Control Panel</option>
			<option value="pm" >Private Messages</option>
			<option value="subs" >Subscriptions</option>
			<option value="wol" >Who's Online</option>
			<option value="search" >Search Forums</option>
			<option value="home" >Forums Home</option>
		</optgroup>
		
		<optgroup label="Forums">
		<option value="1" class="fjdpth0" > Net54baseball Main Forum -  WWII &amp; Older Baseball Cards</option>
<option value="2" class="fjsel" selected="selected">&nbsp; &nbsp;  Net54baseball Vintage (WWII &amp; Older) Baseball Cards &amp; New Member Introductions</option>
<option value="5" class="fjdpth1" >&nbsp; &nbsp;  Net54baseball Sports (Primarily) Vintage Memorabilia Forum incl. Game Used</option>
<option value="31" class="fjdpth2" >&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  Autograph Forum- Primarily Sports</option>
<option value="3" class="fjdpth0" > Net54baseball Buy/Sell/Trade Section  (must login, caveat emptor)</option>
<option value="22" class="fjdpth1" >&nbsp; &nbsp;  Live Auctions - Only 2-3 open, per member, at once.</option>
<option value="46" class="fjdpth1" >&nbsp; &nbsp;  Net54 Baseball Live $1 Auctions -  Ending Sundays 8pm CST</option>
<option value="4" class="fjdpth1" >&nbsp; &nbsp;  19th Century Cards &amp; ALL Baseball Postcards- B/S/T</option>
<option value="20" class="fjdpth1" >&nbsp; &nbsp;  Pre-WWII cards (E, D, M, etc..) B/S/T</option>
<option value="13" class="fjdpth1" >&nbsp; &nbsp;  Tobacco (T) cards, except T206 B/S/T</option>
<option value="39" class="fjdpth1" >&nbsp; &nbsp;  T206 cards B/S/T</option>
<option value="14" class="fjdpth1" >&nbsp; &nbsp;  1920 to 1949 Baseball cards- B/S/T</option>
<option value="15" class="fjdpth1" >&nbsp; &nbsp;  1950 to 1959 Baseball cards- B/S/T</option>
<option value="44" class="fjdpth1" >&nbsp; &nbsp;  1960-1979 Baseball Cards B/S/T</option>
<option value="35" class="fjdpth1" >&nbsp; &nbsp;  1980 &amp; Newer Sports Cards B/S/T</option>
<option value="16" class="fjdpth1" >&nbsp; &nbsp;  Ebay, Auction and other Venues Announcement- B/S/T</option>
<option value="17" class="fjdpth1" >&nbsp; &nbsp;  Baseball Memorabilia B/S/T</option>
<option value="38" class="fjdpth1" >&nbsp; &nbsp;  Autographs &amp; Game Used B/S/T</option>
<option value="18" class="fjdpth1" >&nbsp; &nbsp;  Everything Else, Football, Non-Sports etc.. B/S/T</option>
<option value="6" class="fjdpth0" > Net54baseball Postwar Sportscard Forums</option>
<option value="25" class="fjdpth1" >&nbsp; &nbsp;  Watercooler Talk- ALL sports talk</option>
<option value="29" class="fjdpth1" >&nbsp; &nbsp;  WaterCooler Talk- Off Topics</option>
<option value="28" class="fjdpth1" >&nbsp; &nbsp;  Net54baseball.com Postwar Sportscard Forums</option>
<option value="7" class="fjdpth1" >&nbsp; &nbsp;  Postwar Baseball Cards Forum (Pre-1980)</option>
<option value="34" class="fjdpth1" >&nbsp; &nbsp;  Modern Baseball Cards Forum (1980-Present)</option>
<option value="8" class="fjdpth1" >&nbsp; &nbsp;  Football Cards Forum</option>
<option value="9" class="fjdpth1" >&nbsp; &nbsp;  Boxing / Wrestling Cards &amp; Memorabilia Forum</option>
<option value="10" class="fjdpth1" >&nbsp; &nbsp;  Basketball / Cricket  / Tennis Cards Forum</option>
<option value="11" class="fjdpth1" >&nbsp; &nbsp;  Hockey, Olympic, Auto Racing And All Other Cards</option>
<option value="21" class="fjdpth1" >&nbsp; &nbsp;  Soccer / Golf  / Testing Forum</option>

		</optgroup>
		
	</select><input type="submit" class="button" value="Go"  />
	</form>
</div>
			</td>
		</tr>
		</table>
	</td>
</tr>
</table>
<!-- /forum rules and admin links -->

<br />



<table class="tborder" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">
<thead>
	<tr>
		<td class="tcat" width="100%" colspan="5">
			<a style="float:right" href="#top" onclick="return toggle_collapse('similarthreads')"><img id="collapseimg_similarthreads" src="images/buttons/collapse_tcat.gif" alt="" border="0" /></a>
			Similar Threads<a name="similarthreads"></a>
		</td>
	</tr>
</thead>
<tbody id="collapseobj_similarthreads" style="">
<tr class="thead" align="center">
	<td class="thead" width="40%">Thread</td>
	<td class="thead" width="15%" nowrap="nowrap">Thread Starter</td>
	<td class="thead" width="20%">Forum</td>
	<td class="thead" width="5%">Replies</td>
	<td class="thead" width="20%">Last Post</td>
</tr>
<tr>
	<td class="alt1" align="left">
		
		<span class="smallfont"> <a href="showthread.php?t=224651" title="What in your opinion is the most over-valued baseball card?">Most over-valued card</a></span>
	</td>
	<td class="alt2" nowrap="nowrap"><span class="smallfont">stargell1</span></td>
	<td class="alt1" nowrap="nowrap"><span class="smallfont">Net54baseball Vintage (WWII &amp; Older) Baseball Cards &amp; New Member Introductions</span></td>
	<td class="alt2" align="center"><span class="smallfont">122</span></td>
	<td class="alt1" align="right"><span class="smallfont">07-01-2016 <span class="time">04:31 PM</span></span></td>
</tr>
<tr>
	<td class="alt1" align="left">
		
		<span class="smallfont"> <a href="showthread.php?t=154577" title="So as most of you may know, I delved into the hobby of autograph collecting about a year and a half ago... And as of yet, I have had very few...">Under valued (or underappreciated autographs)</a></span>
	</td>
	<td class="alt2" nowrap="nowrap"><span class="smallfont">daves_resale_shop</span></td>
	<td class="alt1" nowrap="nowrap"><span class="smallfont">Autograph Forum- Primarily Sports</span></td>
	<td class="alt2" align="center"><span class="smallfont">15</span></td>
	<td class="alt1" align="right"><span class="smallfont">07-30-2012 <span class="time">12:54 PM</span></span></td>
</tr>
<tr>
	<td class="alt1" align="left">
		
		<span class="smallfont"> <a href="showthread.php?t=141757" title="My son and I just got into the world of collecting graded cards, not so much because we prefer them but more because we thought valuing these cards...">Are all PSA 5s equally valued?</a></span>
	</td>
	<td class="alt2" nowrap="nowrap"><span class="smallfont">wmullis</span></td>
	<td class="alt1" nowrap="nowrap"><span class="smallfont">Postwar Baseball Cards Forum (Pre-1980)</span></td>
	<td class="alt2" align="center"><span class="smallfont">10</span></td>
	<td class="alt1" align="right"><span class="smallfont">09-26-2011 <span class="time">05:12 PM</span></span></td>
</tr>
<tr>
	<td class="alt1" align="left">
		
		<span class="smallfont"> <a href="showthread.php?t=63345" title="Posted By: &lt;b&gt;leon&lt;/b&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hey Folks,&lt;BR&gt;I got to looking at the gloss coating on the couple of D303's I have and wondered how any could have avoided...">D303 - under appreciated and valued</a></span>
	</td>
	<td class="alt2" nowrap="nowrap"><span class="smallfont">Archive</span></td>
	<td class="alt1" nowrap="nowrap"><span class="smallfont">Net54baseball Vintage (WWII &amp; Older) Baseball Cards &amp; New Member Introductions</span></td>
	<td class="alt2" align="center"><span class="smallfont">2</span></td>
	<td class="alt1" align="right"><span class="smallfont">04-08-2003 <span class="time">04:33 PM</span></span></td>
</tr>
<tr>
	<td class="alt1" align="left">
		
		<span class="smallfont"> <a href="showthread.php?t=61490" title="Posted By: &lt;b&gt;runscott&lt;/b&gt;&lt;p&gt;My bro asked me this question, and I thought it best to pass it by the rest of you.  I can think of sets that are...">Most under-valued vintage set?</a></span>
	</td>
	<td class="alt2" nowrap="nowrap"><span class="smallfont">Archive</span></td>
	<td class="alt1" nowrap="nowrap"><span class="smallfont">Net54baseball Vintage (WWII &amp; Older) Baseball Cards &amp; New Member Introductions</span></td>
	<td class="alt2" align="center"><span class="smallfont">23</span></td>
	<td class="alt1" align="right"><span class="smallfont">04-01-2002 <span class="time">12:13 PM</span></span></td>
</tr>

</tbody>
</table>

<br />



<br />
<div class="smallfont" align="center">All times are GMT -6. The time now is <span class="time">04:35 PM</span>.</div>
<br />


		</div>
	</div>
</div>

<!-- / close content container -->
<!-- /content area table -->


<form action="index.php" method="get" style="clear:left">

<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%" class="page" align="center">
<tr>
	
		<td class="tfoot">
			<select name="styleid" onchange="switch_id(this, 'style')">
				<optgroup label="Quick Style Chooser">
					<option value="1" class="" >-- Default Style</option>
<option value="2" class="" selected="selected">-- mainforumstyles</option>
<option value="3" class="" >---- Model-T</option>

				</optgroup>
			</select>
		</td>
	
	
	<td class="tfoot" align="right" width="100%">
		<div class="smallfont">
			<strong>
<a href="external.php?lastpost=true&type=RSS2&forumids=2">RSS</a> -
				<a href="sendmessage.php" rel="nofollow" accesskey="9">Contact Us</a> -
				<a href="http://www.net54baseball.com">Home</a> -
				
				
				<a href="archive/index.php">Archive</a> -
				
				
				
				<a href="#top" onclick="self.scrollTo(0, 0); return false;">Top</a>
			</strong>
		</div>
	</td>
</tr>
</table>

<br />

<div align="center">
	<div class="smallfont" align="center">
	</div>

	<div class="smallfont" align="center">
	<!-- Do not remove  or your scheduled tasks will cease to function -->
	
	<!-- Do not remove  or your scheduled tasks will cease to function -->

	
	</div>
</div>

</form>




<script type="text/javascript">
<!--
	// Main vBulletin Javascript Initialization
	vBulletin_init();
//-->
</script>

<div style="text-align:center;">

<script language="javascript" type="text/javascript">
 var ran_number=Math.floor(Math.random()*5);

var footerrotation=new Array()


footerrotation[0]= '<' + 'a href="http://loveofthegameauctions.com/consignwithus.aspx" target=_blank ' + '>' + '<' + 'IMG border="0" SRC="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/net54banner_love.gif"' + '>' + '<' + '/a>'
footerrotation[1]= '<' + 'a href="http://www.sterlingsportsauctions.com/" target=_blank ' + '>' + '<' + 'IMG border="0" SRC="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/net54banner_sterling.gif"' + '>' + '<' + '/a>'

footerrotation[2]= '<' + 'a href="https://lelands.com/" target=_blank ' + '>' + '<' + 'IMG border="0" SRC="https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/net54banner_lelands.gif" width="550" height="90"' + '>' + '<' + '/a>'

footerrotation[3]= '<' + 'a href=https://www.cgccards.com/?utm_source=partner&utm_medium=banner&utm_campaign=Net54_July2023&utm_id=CGCCards target=_blank ' + '>' + '<' + 'IMG border="0" SRC=https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/net54banner_csg.gif' + '>' + '<' + '/a>'

footerrotation[4]= '<' + 'a href=https://www.stinsonsports.com/ target=_blank ' + '>' + '<' + 'IMG border="0" SRC=https://net54baseball.com/forum/images/forumimages/net54banner_stinson.jpg' + '>' + '<' + '/a>'


document.writeln(footerrotation[ran_number]);    


</script>





<map name="jcbanner">
  <area shape="rect" coords="0,0,275,90" alt="ebay" href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5574643778&toolid=10001&campid=5336784124&customid=&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fstores.ebay.com%2Fjust-collect-Vintage-Sports-Cards" />
  <area shape="rect" coords="275,0,550,90" alt="GSB" href="http://grandslambids.com" /> 
</map>

</div>

<!-- temp -->
<div style="display:none">
	<!-- thread rate -->
	
		
	
	<!-- / thread rate -->
</div>

</body>
</html>