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Old 12-08-2025, 11:19 PM
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Default Huh? Missed something. Probstein back on eBay?

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Old 12-09-2025, 12:09 AM
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Have to admit I missed this article:

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He had an item I wanted right after he rejoined, but I boycotted. Plenty of other folks will no doubt fill his pockets but it won’t be me. eBay letting him right back in confirms what we already know in terms of its commitment to integrity.
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That was so last week…..This week it’s PSA defending changing grades after a buyback. Sounds like Nat was doing a clean up in aisle 3. Surprised there hasn’t been a thread about it here.
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That was so last week…..This week it’s PSA defending changing grades after a buyback. Sounds like Nat was doing a clean up in aisle 3. Surprised there hasn’t been a thread about it here.
What the bloody devil?

So I get my card graded, they give it a 5, then offer to buy it from me as a 5. I sell it to them, and they take another look, magically realize it should have been a 7, and sell it to someone else for a whole lot more?
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I thought I heard on a webcast that Rick's Return to EBay resulted in an auction with nearly 2 million in sales. And folks, that's why he was welcomed back so quickly

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What the bloody devil?

So I get my card graded, they give it a 5, then offer to buy it from me as a 5. I sell it to them, and they take another look, magically realize it should have been a 7, and sell it to someone else for a whole lot more?
Hate switching subjects in this post, but when a grader offers to buy a card from you after grading it red flags go up everywhere.
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What the bloody devil?

So I get my card graded, they give it a 5, then offer to buy it from me as a 5. I sell it to them, and they take another look, magically realize it should have been a 7, and sell it to someone else for a whole lot more?

Apparently PSA did a “review” after the sub was graded and realized that their grades were too low. 9,s should have been graded 10’s. Of course they were changed after the buyback. Seriously, you can’t make this stuff up.
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Apparently PSA did a “review” after the sub was graded and realized that their grades were too low. 9,s should have been graded 10’s. Of course they were changed after the buyback. Seriously, you can’t make this stuff up.
PSA would never deliberately undergrade in order to try to make a profitable buyback or encourage submitters to try again, would they?

As the opening narration on the Outer Limits went, "We control the horizontal. We control the vertical."

Are all "hobbies" an insider game like this?
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PSA would never deliberately undergrade in order to try to make a profitable buyback or encourage submitters to try again, would they?

As the opening narration on the Outer Limits went, "We control the horizontal. We control the vertical."

Are all "hobbies" an insider game like this?
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He had an item I wanted right after he rejoined, but I boycotted. Plenty of other folks will no doubt fill his pockets but it won’t be me. eBay letting him right back in confirms what we already know in terms of its commitment to integrity.
Had a card on my watchlist pop up maybe a week ago. Was already at 20+ bids and jogging past the "normal" closing price. Then I saw the seller.
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My question is who TF can tell a difference between most 9’s and 10’s? One reason I rarely buy a 10.The price delta is much larger than the eye appeal delta IMO
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My question is who TF can tell a difference between most 9’s and 10’s? One reason I rarely buy a 10.The price delta is much larger than the eye appeal delta IMO
Yep, there’s a lot of great deals on 9s out there.
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Had a card on my watchlist pop up maybe a week ago. Was already at 20+ bids and jogging past the "normal" closing price. Then I saw the seller.
LOL, yes shill bidding went from at the end of the auction to the beginning several years ago. Sadly it still fools most people into thinking they are real bids because they are not at the end.
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He had an item I wanted right after he rejoined, but I boycotted. Plenty of other folks will no doubt fill his pockets but it won’t be me. eBay letting him right back in confirms what we already know in terms of its commitment to integrity.

I’m doing the same. Not even looking at his listings. The only way this changes is for people to stop buying from him.


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