I found a few cards in my basement.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Thanks, Leon!

Thanks David. The OP and I just had a great 15 minute chat on the phone number given after the fact. He is now unbanned. He didn't realize how big of a deal total anonymity is on this board (and giving false registration info). Suffice it to say he does now. I don't think he took it personally either. He has some great cards and there are reasons he doesn't really want all of his info in public, so once verified, all public info was taken down. Being private is ok per the rules.. And I wish him good luck too!!

[TheNightmanCometh]

Posters are talking like pics were posted, but I don't see any. Am I missing something?

[Cozumeleno]

Originally Posted by TheNightmanCometh

Posters are talking like pics were posted, but I don't see any. Am I missing something?

Link to photos in first post.

[Joshchisox08]

Originally Posted by jb217676

How did you just find these cards in your basement, I don't understand.

Something seems a little fishy to me as well. And lack of knowledge of the set in particular.

If one knows they're t206 how do they not know that they're worth a decent chunk of change?

[Leon]

I could be wrong but if you knew the story it is more believable. I think he is checking on them for a relative. That is really all I can say about it but if he wants to come back and explain more he can. I do think they are real and are close to him. It's not a random troll situation, I don't think. Like I say, I wish him the best. And btw, if he comes back I see no reason he can't only have his user id out here. He picked up the phone when I called .

Originally Posted by Joshchisox08

Something seems a little fishy to me as well. And lack of knowledge of the set in particular.

If one knows they're t206 how do they not know that they're worth a decent chunk of change?

[Joshchisox08]

Originally Posted by Leon

I could be wrong but if you knew the story it is more believable. I think he is checking on them for a relative. That is really all I can say about it but if he wants to come back and explain more he can. I do think they are real and are close to him. It's not a random troll situation, I don't think. Like I say, I wish him the best. And btw, if he comes back I see no reason he can't only have his user id out here. He picked up the phone when I called .

Judging from the scans I just saw, I agree the cards def look legit. Just the story is so surreal, almost eBay esc

[JohnP0621]

The cards look real to me but I did not see the Doyle NY Natl. I believe that was the card on the list that got everyone's attention.
Nice Find
Congrats
John P

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Leon

I could be wrong but if you knew the story it is more believable. I think he is checking on them for a relative. That is really all I can say about it but if he wants to come back and explain more he can. I do think they are real and are close to him. It's not a random troll situation, I don't think. Like I say, I wish him the best. And btw, if he comes back I see no reason he can't only have his user id out here. He picked up the phone when I called .

And I guessing that is a huge plus! Real phone number!! Im sure you get a lot of bogus ones Leon.

[Jeffrompa]

Some basements are better than others .

[GasHouseGang]

Sean, I don't believe your list is the same as the "basement find". I sorted your list and then tried to post them side by side. This is much easier in Excel then on the board! I highlighted the cards that are different in the "basement find". I didn't go through the whole list and make the differences in bold, just the first 10, but you get the idea.

SEAN'S LIST/ Basement Find
ABBATICOHIO, PITTSBURG SWEET CAPORAL// Abbaticchio, Pittsburg
ABBOTT, TOLEDO SOVEREIGN// Abbott, Toledo X2
ALPERMAN, BROOKLYN PIEDMONT// Absetin, Pittsburg
AMES, N.Y. NAT'L PIEDMONT // Adkins, Baltimore
ANDERSON, PROVIDENCE SWEET CAPORAL// Alperman, Brooklyn
ATZ, CHICAGO AMER. SWEET CAPORAL// Anderson, Providence X2
BASTIAN, SAN ANTONIO PIEDMONT // Arellanes, Boston Amer X2
BECK, BOSTON NAT'L PIEDMONT// Arnot, Providence X2
BELL, BROOKLYN OLD MILL// Atz, Chicago Amer X2
BERGEN, BROOKLYN PIEDMONT// Barry, Phila Amer
BLISS, ST.LOUIS NAT'L SWEET CAPORAL// Beck, Boston Natl
BOWERMAN, BOSTON NAT'L PIEDMONT// Beckley, Kansas City X2
BRASHEAR, KANSAS CITY PIEDMONT// Bender, Phila Amer
BURCH, BROOKLYN SWEET CAPORAL// Bergen, Brooklyn
BUSH, DETROIT PIEDMONT// Bescher, Cincinnati X2
CAMNITZ, PITTSBURG OLD MILL// Blackburne, Providence
CAMPBELL, CINCINNATI OLD MILL// Bliss, St. Louis Natl
CAREY, MEMPHIS PIEDMONT// Bowerman, Boston Natl
CASEY, MONTREAL SWEET CAPORAL// Brain, Buffalo
CHANCE, CHICAGO NAT'L OLD MILL// M. Brown, Chicago Natl
CHANCE, CHICAGO NAT'L PIEDMONT// Burchell, Buffalo
CHASE, N.Y. AMER. PIEDMONT// Burns, Chicago Amer
CLANCY, BUFFALO PIEDMONT// Butler, Rochester X2
CLARKE, F., PITTSBURG PIEDMONT// Camnitz, Pittsburgh
COLES, AUGUSTA PIEDMONT // Campbell, Cincinnati
CONROY, WASHINGTON SWEET CAPORAL// Carr, Indianapolis
CRANDALL, N.Y. NAT'L SWEET CAPORAL// Carrigan, Boston Amer
CRAVATH, MINNEAPOLIS PIEDMONT// Casey, Montreal X2
DAVIS, H., PHILA. AMER. PIEDMONT// Cassidy, Baltimore
DINEEN, ST.LOUIS AMER. SWEET CAPORAL// Chappelle, Rochester
DONLIN, N.Y. NAT'L SWEET CAPORAL// Chase, NY Amer X2
DOOLAN, PHILA. NAT'L SWEET CAPORAL// Clark, Columbus
DOUGHERTY, CHICAGO AMER. OLD MILL// Clymer, Columbus
DOUGHERTY, CHICAGO AMER. OLD MILL// Collins, Phila Amer
DOWNEY, CINCINNATI PIEDMONT// Congalton, Columbus
DOYLE, N.Y. NAT'L PIEDMONT// Cravath, Minneapolis X2
DUBUC, CINCINNATI PIEDMONT// Cross, Indianapolis
DUNN, BROOKLYN PIEDMONT// M. Davis, Phila Amer X2
DYGERT, PHILA. AMER. PIEDMONT// Delehanty, Louisville X2
EVANS, ST.LOUIS NAT'L PIEDMONT// Debbau, Baltimore
EVERS, CHICAGO NAT'L PIEDMONT// Donovan, Detroit
FROMME, CINCINNATI SWEET CAPORAL// Dougherty, Chicago Amer
G.DAVIS, CHICAGO AMER. PIEDMONT// Downey, Cincinnati
GANZEL, ROCHESTER PIEDMONT// Doyle, NY Natl
GILBERT, ST.LOUIS NAT'L PIEDMONT// Dubuc, Cincinnati
GRAY, WASHINGTON PIEDMONT// Cobb, Detroit
HART, LITTLE ROCK PIEDMONT// Dormer, Kansas City
HAYDEN, INDIANAPOLIS PIEDMONT// Easterly, Cleveland
HOBLITZELL, CINCINNATI PIEDMONT// Egan, Cincinnati
HOFFMAN, PROVIDENCE PIEDMONT// Elberfield, NY Amer
HOOKER, LYNCHBURG PIEDMONT// Ellam, Nashville
HOWARD, CHICAGO NAT'L PIEDMONT// Engle, NY Amer
HOWELL, ST.LOUIS AMER. SWEET CAPORAL// Fiene, Chicago Amer
HULSWITT, ST.LOUIS NAT'L PIEDMONT// Flannagan, Buffalo
HUMMEL, BROOKLYN SWEET CAPORAL// Fletcher, NY Natl
HUNTER, BROOKLYN PIEDMONT// Genzel, Rochester
JONES, ST.LOUIS AMER. PIEDMONT// Gasper, Cincinnati
KIERNAN, COLUMBIA PIEDMONT// Grimshaw, Toronto X2
KILLIAN, DETROIT SWEET CAPORAL// Groom, Washington
KISINGER, BUFFALO PIEDMONT// Guiheen, Portsmouth
KRUGER, COLUMBUS PIEDMONT// Hall, Baltimore
LAKE, ST.LOUIS AMER. OLD MILL// Hallman, Kansas City
LENNOX, BROOKLYN PIEDMONT// Hannifan, Jersey City
LINDMAN, BOSTON NAT'L PIEDMONT// Hayden, Indianapolis
LUNDGREN, KANSAS CITY SWEET CAPORAL// Hinchman, Toledo
MALONEY, ROCHESTER PIEDMONT// Hoblitzell, Cincinnati
MARSHALL, BROOKLYN PIEDMONT// Hoffman, Providence
MATHEWSON, N.Y. NAT'L SWEET CAPORAL// Hoffman, St. Louis Amer
MCBRIDE, WASHINGTON PIEDMONT// Howard, Chicago Natl
MCCORMICK, N.Y. NAT'L PIEDMONT// Howell, St Louis Amer
MCELVEEN, BROOKLYN AMERICAN BEAUTY// Hulswitt, St Louis Natl
MCGINLEY, TORONTO PIEDMONT// Hunter, Brooklyn
MCGINNITY, NEWARK PIEDMONT// Kelley, Toronto
MCGRAW, N.Y. NAT'L SOVEREIGN// Knight, NY Amer X2
MCGRAW, NEW YORK NAT'L PIEDMONT// Krause, Phila Amer
MCINTYRE, BROOKLYN PIEDMONT// Kroh, Chicago Natl
MCQUILLAN, PHILA. NAT'L SWEET CAPORAL// Kruger, Columbus
MERKLE, N.Y. NAT'L SWEET CAPORAL// LaFitte, Macon
MITCHELL, CINCINNATI SWEET CAPORAL// Lavender, Providence X2
MOLESWORTH, BIRMINGHAM OLD MILL// Leach, Pittsburg X2
MULLIN, DETROIT PIEDMONT// Livingstone, Phila Amer
MURPHY, PHILA. AMER. OLD MILL// McBride, Washington X2
NICHOLS, PHILA. AMER. PIEDMONT// McElveen, Brooklyn
NICHOLS, PHILA. AMER. PIEDMONT// McGlynn, Milwaukee
O'HARA, ST.LOUIS NAT'L PIEDMONT// Malarkey, Buffalo
OLDRING, PHILA. AMER. PIEDMONT// Maloney, Rochester
O'LEARY, DETROIT OLD MILL // Marshall, Brooklyn
O'NEIL, MINNEAPOLIS PIEDMONT// Mathewson, NY Natl X2
ORTH, LYNCHBURG PIEDMONT// Merritt, Jersey City
OVERALL, CHICAGO NAT'L PIEDMONT// Milan, Washington
OWEN, CHICAGO AMER. PIEDMONT// Miller, Pittsburg
PELTY, ST.LOUIS AMER. PIEDMONT// Mitchell, Cincinnati
PFEFFER, CHICAGO NAT'L PIEDMONT// Moeller, Jersey City X2
PFEISTER, CHICAGO NAT'L OLD MILL// Moran, Providence X2
PHELPS, ST. LOUIS NAT'L PIEDMONT// Moran, Chicago Natl
POLAND, BALTIMORE PIEDMONT// Murray, NY Natl
PUTTMAN, LOUISVILLE PIEDMONT// Myers, NY Natl
QUINN, N.Y. AMER. SWEET CAPORAL// O'Brien, St. Paul
RUCKER, BROOKLYN PIEDMONT// Oberlin, Minneapolis
RYAN, ROANOKE PIEDMONT/ / O'Neil, Minneapolis
SCHMIDT, DETROIT PIEDMONT// Otey, Norfolk
SCHMIDT, DETROIT PIEDMONT// Perring, Cleveland
SCHRECK, COLUMBUS PIEDMONT// Persons, Montgomery X2
SHARPE, NEWARK PIEDMONT// Phelan, Providence X2
SHAUGHNESSY, ROANOKE PIEDMONT// Phelps, St. Louis Natl
SLAGLE, BALTIMORE PIEDMONT// Pickering, Minneapolis
SMITH, SID, ATLANTA PIEDMONT// Poland, Baltimore
SPEAKER, BOSTON AMER. PIEDMONT// Powers, Phila Amer
STARK, SAN ANTONIO OLD MILL// Quillen, Minneapolis
STONE, ST.LOUIS AMER. PIEDMONT// Randall, Milwaukee
STOVALL, CLEVELAND PIEDMONT// Raymond, NY Natl
STREET, WASHINGTON PIEDMONT// Rhoades, Cleveland
SWEENEY, N.Y. AMER. OLD MILL// Rhodes, St Louis Natl
TAYLOR, BUFFALO PIEDMONT// Ritter, Kansas City
THEBO, WACO PIEDMONT// Rudolph, Toronto X2
THIELMAN, LOUISVILLE PIEDMONT// Schaefer, Washington
TINKER, CHICAGO NAT'L PIEDMONT// Shannon, Kansas City
WADDELL, ST.LOUIS AMER. PIEDMONT// Shaughnessy, Roanoke
WARHOP, N.Y. AMER. PIEDMONT// Shaw, Providence
WESTLAKE, DANVILLE PIEDMONT// Sheckard, Chicago Natl
WHITE, BUFFALO PIEDMONT // Shipke, Washington
WILHELM, BROOKLYN PIEDMONT// Speaker, Boston Amer
WILSON, PITTSBURG PIEDMONT// Smith, Shreveport
WILTBE, N.Y. NAT'L PIEDMONT// Spade, Cincinnati
WILTSE, N.Y. NAT'L OLD MILL// Stanage, Detroit X2
//Sweeney, Boston Natl
//Strang, Baltimore
//Tannehill, Washington
//Thielman, Louisville
//Thomas, Phila Amer
//Titus, Phila Natl
//Unglaus, Washington
/Warhop, NY Amer
//White, Buffalo
//Wilson, Pittsburg X2
//Young, Cleveland

[emd023]

This is all I got for now...until I get home.

[icollectDCsports]

Very cool. You came to the right place to get some info and advice.

[bnorth]

First off I will say I know very little about T206 cards. Second I will say they all look fuzzy and out of focus like counterfeit cards. Never seen a real Piedmont back with stray printer dots like those appear to have.

[vintagesportscollector]

Cards look legit to me, very nice. I am just curious at this point to the story behind them. Who finds T206s in plastic sleeves in their own basement? Who's cards were they? Again, best of luck.

[T206Collector]

100% real - and awesome - great find!

[trdcrdkid]

Originally Posted by bnorth

First off I will say I know very little about T206 cards. Second I will say they all look fuzzy and out of focus like counterfeit cards. Never seen a real Piedmont back with stray printer dots like those appear to have.

I'm guessing that's from the low image quality, plus the fact that (I'm guessing) you're looking at it on a relatively large screen. That image is only 574.19 kb, so it was probably taken with an older cell phone. When it's blown up on a computer screen, it's going to look fuzzy, especially in the parts where the camera wasn't focusing. I would want to see scans rather than a cell phone picture before coming to any conclusions.

[irv]

Originally Posted by emd023

Hello. I found a T206 collection in my basement and came here to share them with you. I have no idea how much they are worth or what I am going to do with them. Just looking for some information. I will take photos of the backs tomorrow. Thanks!

Link to photos

Congrats on the find!

Although I don't collect pre-war cards, I am looking forward to following this thread as it unfolds.

[TheBigRedOne]

Oh, that poor Tris Speaker card! That hurts to see!

[emd023]

Originally Posted by TheBigRedOne

Oh, that poor Tris Speaker card! That hurts to see!

Yeah who did that??

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Originally Posted by emd023

Yeah who did that??

I want it! Lol

[emd023]

Updated gallery with backs

Also updated the link on the first page.

As you can see there are 10 pics of the front and 11 pics of the back. When I took the photos of the fronts I guess I missed one of the pages (the one with Doyle). I was able to get a pic of the back (pic #11) but at the time I took the pics of the backs I didnt know I had missed a pic of the front. I dont have the cards with me so I wont be able to get a pic of the front tonght. Sorry!

I found these cards in my basement. They were collected by my Grandfather and passed down to my father where they were forgotten for a long time (until I found them). I didnt know they existed until I found them. My father said that my Grandfather did have the Wagner card a loooong time ago however he gave it away to a friend .

The cards were packaged like this when I found them. I have not modified them in any way. I am not sure what I am going to do with them. I did collect cards when I was younger. I have a big box full of baseball, football, and basketball cards from the 70s, 80s, 90s but I havent bothered with them for years.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by emd023

Updated gallery with backs

Also updated the link on the first page.

Those pictures look much better. I take back my fuzzy look like counterfeit statement.

[KMayUSA6060]

All together now!

We're sorry...


In all seriousness, bud, great find. I, like many others, are very interested in the full story behind these cards. Also, I don't know if you have kids or not, and I know you're not a huge card collector, but if you don't need the money at this particular moment in time, I'd hold onto them and pass them down to your kids, and their kids, etc. Not only will they only increase in value (invest in proper protective gear), but they will be a great family "treasure".



P.S. I didn't look at the pictures, but is the Doyle in there? If so, congrats on retirement.

[vintagesportscollector]

It's all about the Joe Doyle N.Y. Nat'l....would love to see a pic of that tomorrow.

[edjs]

Guys, it could be this Doyle, NY Natl. Or the one. Or who knows what.

[T206Collector]

Cmon seriously? All Larry Doyles are NY Nat'l. Of course that's what we're dealing with here. I'm more interested in seeing the Matty

[vintagesportscollector]

I am sure you are right.

The two Mattys are pictured in his gallery photos.

[trdcrdkid]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

Cmon seriously? All Larry Doyles are NY Nat'l. Of course that's what we're dealing with here. I'm more interested in seeing the Matty

Well, his list doesn't specify that it's a Larry Doyle; it just says "Doyle, N.Y. Nat'l". In theory that could be any of the three Larry Doyles or the rare Joe Doyle, though I agree that it's unlikely to be the latter.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by vintagesportscollector

The two Mattys are pictured in his gallery photos.

Ah yes, see them now. Thanks!

[Jantz]

I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I've seen the green Cobb or another T206 posted before on the internet with these stickers on the back.

[swarmee]

There are a few examples of back stamps in the collection.

Can't read the one on the first page. But I can make out:
"Harold Easterday"
"GLENN LAZZELLE" x7

Too bad there are none from Mr. McCormick...

[Howe’s Hunter]

Originally Posted by swarmee

There are a few examples of back stamps in the collection.

Too bad there are none from Mr. McCormick...

And if this site had a like button, I would be hitting it repeatedly.

[jbsports33]

Good luck with the cards!

Jimmy

[Stampsfan]

To quote an old Seinfeld episode, "They're real, and they're FABULOUS!".

[vintagesportscollector]

Originally Posted by Stampsfan

To quote an old Seinfeld episode, "They're real, and they're FABULOUS!".

I think it was "they're Spectacular"...not Fabulous...

[trdcrdkid]

Originally Posted by vintagesportscollector

I think it was "they're Spectacular"...not Fabulous...

Spoken by Teri Hatcher:

[Stampsfan]

Originally Posted by vintagesportscollector

I think it was "they're Spectacular"...not Fabulous...

Thanks... my memory apparently is not what it once was...

Perhaps I remember the picture better than the words

[jfkheat]

Since it has been determined that the cards are real I wonder how many PMs has the OP received from potential buyers?
James

[emd023]

Sorry guys. No rare Doyle.

[the 'stache]

This is too cool. Very interested to see what the owner does. Congratulations!

[baztacula]

Certainly a nice little find but nothing earth-shattering. No rarities or pristine HOFers. I don't know why everybody was so skeptical.

[Bored5000]

Originally Posted by Stampsfan

Thanks... my memory apparently is not what it once was...

"Not that there's anything wrong with that."

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by baztacula

Certainly a nice little find but nothing earth-shattering. No rarities or pristine HOFers. I don't know why everybody was so skeptical.

I think the skepticism was because they were found in the basement. Everyone knows that most legitimate finds are located on the ground level, not the basement or attic. Those two levels are usually where damaged reprints are found.

Brian

By the way, nice little discovery...all old cards are cool, especially ones that you didn't know existed.

[baztacula]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

I think the skepticism was because they were found in the basement. Everyone knows that most legitimate finds are located on the ground level, not the basement or attic. Those two levels are usually where damaged reprints are found.

Brian

By the way, nice little discovery...all old cards are cool, especially ones that you didn't know existed.

Yeah but didn't he say that they were in those pages when he found them? Obviously, they were put in those pages somewhat recently. So the cards may have been in a basement for a short time. Furthermore, not every basement is a nightmare. Mine kinda is but some people have finished basements that aren't prone to flooding and such.

If he posted a bunch of fuzzy pictures of Drum backs or Honus Wagners or ridiculous "ghost images", I'd get the snarky responses to his posts. But his cards are, for the most part, heavily creased commons with a few poor condition HOFers, all with rather common backs.

[JollyElm]

You could never make such a find out here in California. Finding a house with a basement in this state is a million times tougher than finding a T206 Wagner in a dollar box at a garage sale.

[iowadoc77]

I think this is a really cool find. I can't imagine finding a stash of cards anywhere. The feeling would be exhilarating and as you surveyed what you found it would just be fun. Congrats on the find! It certainly isn't a stash of Ty Cobbs, but it beats the only find I have ever made, a 1954 Topps Granny Hamner when we were cleaning out my grandparents house for an estate sale.

[Paul S]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

You could never make such a find out here in California. Finding a house with a basement in this state is a million times tougher than finding a T206 Wagner in a dollar box at a garage sale.

One of 3 boxes that survived two earthquakes and a mudslide (SoCal). Was in my bedroom closet for the San Fernando quake (1971). In 1974, on my 21st birthday, I moved to San Francisco. Before I left I put the boxes on a basement shelf, wrote my name on them, and told my mother not to move them. (She was there for the second quake and mudslide). And there they stayed until I picked them up about 10 years ago and brought them back to NY, along with herself. No Wagner in there, but plenty of those cards are now in the hands - or have passed through the hands - of many Net54 members...Ts, Es. Topps, Bowman...etc.

[Jewish-collector]

Sometimes you gotta say "WTF"

[yankeeno7]

Nice to see a legitimate find. Thanks for sharing. Great stuff!

[Leon]

Being on this board a long time gives one a fair amount of skepticism on finds like this. This one turned out good and I hope the OP starts collecting, actually.

Originally Posted by baztacula

Certainly a nice little find but nothing earth-shattering. No rarities or pristine HOFers. I don't know why everybody was so skeptical.