Guess the grade and explain why?!

[ullmandds]

lots of good guesses so far guys...and some not so good ones too!!!!! Still no winner though!


Apparently with our hundreds of years of vintage card experience...and that's just Frank...we are not qualified to be "professional" graders!

[Mikehealer]

8.5
nm/mt+

[Fred]

Authentic because PSA indicates someone altered the card by removing the name text.

2 because of the rounded corners and small surface crease.

Cool card.

[Sean]

Authentic (Altered)

[t206blogcom]

8 oc

[Leon]

My last guess because I don't see it listed (could have missed it).

PSA 2.5

ps...looks like post #4 already guessed it, I give up.

[freakhappy]

rejected for min size or...

you came to your senses and never sent it in to PSA

[ullmandds]

still no 100% correct answer yet...a few are very close! No former PSA graders here who can offer their expertise?

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by freakhappy

rejected for min size or...

you came to your senses and never sent it in to PSA

or rejected for maximum size????

[freakhappy]

authentic missing ink

[tiger8mush]

.5

Must've been deemed at least authentic, cuz I can't imagine REA would put a $10 card with an erased name in their auction. So it must be unaltered. And everything from 1 thru 3.5 has been guessed already

[ullmandds]

the frustration is palpable friends! the frustration many of us feel upon finding out what grades our cards received upon arrival from the graders.

[ullmandds]

thanks to everyone for keeping me entertained throughout my morning...hint hint hint...there is a qualifier.

[freakhappy]

3(mk)

[D.P.Johnson]

The flip indicates it's authentic but incorrectly names the player as Jay Leno because of his large chin???

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by D.P.Johnson

The flip indicates it's authentic but incorrectly names the player as Jay Leno because of his large chin???

good one! A for creativity!

[Eric72]

1 (oc)

[Peter_Spaeth]

3 (pd)

[Jobu]

Staying with 2.0 but adding an OC --- 2.0 (OC).

[tiger8mush]

1 (pd)
1.5 (pd)
2 (pd)
3 (pd)

pd is the only qualifier I can imagine it getting ...

http://www.psacard.com/Services/PSAGradingStandards

[curtis-cards]

I'm going with 4 (pd). Slightly rounded corners and graded by PSA.

What do I win?

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by tiger8mush

1 (pd)
1.5 (pd)
2 (pd)
3 (pd)

pd is the only qualifier I can imagine it getting ...

http://www.psacard.com/Services/PSAGradingStandards

now that's just bad etiquette...multiple guesses at once!!! Think outside the box...this is PSA after all.

[bn2cardz]

2 MC. They are assuming the name was cut off.

[dog*dirt]

Not able to grade. Altered stock?

[tiger8mush]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Think outside the box...this is PSA after all.

So it got an OF (out of focus) qualifier? Phillippe's name is actually there, its just so out of focus you can't see it

[bnorth]

2.5 (PD) my guess but wouldn't doupt the old AUTHENTIC N-O

[t206hound]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

2 MC. They are assuming the name was cut off.

I'm with ÄñÐ¥. Based on the guesses thus far, they must have given it a MC qualifier (why will always remain a mystery).

[ullmandds]

you guys have suffered long enough...the grade is

PSA 1(MC)

And I agree...how is this card miscut?

[gregr2]

Yay!! I had the 1 right!

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

2 MC. They are assuming the name was cut off.

cut off from where? the extra fat bottom border????

[asoriano]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

you guys have suffered long enough...the grade is

PSA 1(MC)

And I agree...how is this card miscut?

[bobbyw8469]

I never saw the back so I cant speak for the qualifier without totally seeing the card.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

cut off from where? the extra fat bottom border????

Well you asked for a reason and that is the only reason I could come up with. I originally only thought MC because of how quickly you jumped on the first time miscut was brought up, yet never asked any one else to explain their qualifiers

I assume they are saying it is MC because that is the designation that has worked for every other previous "No Name" they got, it just doesn't apply this time.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

Well you asked for a reason and that is the only reason I could come up with. I originally only thought MC because of how quickly you jumped on the first time miscut was brought up, yet never asked any one else to explain their qualifiers

I assume they are saying it is MC because that is the designation that has worked for every other previous "No Name" they got, it just doesn't apply this time.

yes Andy...after I responded to your guess I thought I was giving it away!!!!

Has nothing to do with the back...which there is a scan of in an older t206 w/no name thread.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I never saw the back so I cant speak for the qualifier without totally seeing the card.

He posted this in the original thread

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=191524

[mrvster]

this is a toughie....

[mrvster]

AT FIRST.....Chris asked me, I told him not to bid....

problem- nnof are not recognized anymore

[mrvster]

true "no names" have become not "politically" correct......anymore....why???

NO ONE HAS THE NUTS TO GRADE THEM!!

there....I said it!

[mrvster]

they are too hard to discern apparently......too many forgers/ erasures...

Pete.....the problem with your name is the "brown" layer associated with the caption....there is no "jump"

off the bottom....

these , I wish, were better ways to determine a true "no name"


this "could've" been a miscut with a "low" struck" caption, but there is no "brown" layer "jump"....but that doesn't explain it entirely....

I own both printer's scrap "true" no names" and a factory cut "caption" jump...

very confusing....

[mrvster]

this example is only 1 of 2 known to exist!!!!!

the other is Del Howard(which I believe Keith owns, but not sure due to losing it on Ebay many years ago).......

full caption "jump"

extremely rare.....extremely valuable.....I am dying to see another example???anyone??? I have been searching for 15 years plus!

[vthobby]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

you guys have suffered long enough...the grade is

PSA 1(MC)

And I agree...how is this card miscut?

You are correct, that is graded a 1 MC but it is definitely not a 1 and it is also not MC.

Maybe we can start a grading company that can slab the slab and put the REAL grade on the outside slab......hmmmmm

I'd say its a (MG).

MG=Misgraded.

Peace, mike

[wolf441]

Best I can do!

[mrvster]

your not too far off

[mrvster]

great great example.....there is a warhop out there like yours....notice the brown"jump"

[mrvster]

[mrvster]

caption right shift ever known to survive!!

I LOVE THIS CARD...prob one of my favorites......

[mrvster]

"true no names scraps"

[asoriano]

http://goodwinandco.com/LotDetail.as...entoryid=10826

[mrvster]

Almost buddy! the caption lies on the "border" ......I knew who owned that....if it shifted fully inside the border, you have to add another zero to the hammer at least......only 2 known examples of "full jump"....

the randall and howard....

I'm still searching tho after 15 + years!

[mrvster]

true "no names" my favorite twins!