T206 Piedmont Back "Curved Gap"

[sreader3]

Certainly not a huge deal but I'm curious if anyone has or has seen a Pied 350 with the same curved gap above the "P" where blue ink normally runs. Also interested in any causal theories you printing experts may have. I have inspected the card closely and am pretty sure this is not mere paper loss.

The subject is Killian (Portrait). Thanks in advance for the input.

[gnaz01]

A hair on the plate??

[ullmandds]

"theres a pubic hair on my printing plate!"

[sreader3]

A hair? Not bad . . . anyone else?

And I'm also interested to know if anyone else has a card with the same pattern.

Heck, I'll even send $5 and a "mystery" card to the first person who can show me another one (by "one" I mean a card with the same curved gap in the same place).

[t206blogcom]

I agree that it was probably a hair or something on the plate.

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

"theres a pubic hair on my printing plate!"

you dinner plate.

[iwantitiwinit]

Looks more like the shape of an eyelash.

[sreader3]

Thanks for the responses. Robert I think you may be on to something with the eyelash.

[barrysloate]

A hair or a sliver of paper.

[frankbmd]

Anatomically the curved gap means different things to different people.

[HoggZilla]

I found a "fuzzy" picture with a similar ink-gap in a very close proximity. Here is the link and what I see.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fW8Exw-_ud...0/scan0019.jpg

On the left of the picture I transposed the position of this "mark" compared to yours. Close but not exact. I will keep looking.

If you have a more detailed scan of your card I would be happy to investigate more.

[Pat R]

Scot, here's a group of Killians with the same mark, I would guess that it
was likely a flaw on the plate.

Patrick

[HoggZilla]

Originally Posted by Pat R

Scot, here's a group of Killians with the same mark, I would guess that it
was likely a flaw on the plate.

Patrick

Nice Work!!!

[mrvster]

usually carries a lot of weight....


these "little" clues even help decipher / or raise the printing questions....I love this set...


great work guys

[sreader3]

Wow, Pat!

You are the winner. PM your address and I'll send you the $5 and mystery card!

See my post on page 1 for contest details.

And thanks to all who chimed in (even you Frank)

[jcmtiger]

Here is another Killian Portrait. But, I think the P or whatever it is may have been added later.

Joe

[sreader3]

Patrick,

Do you have a sense of what FRACTION of Killian Portrait Pied 350s have the curved gap?

Have you seen any subjects OTHER THAN Killian Portrait with this feature?

I think answers to the above questions might tell us something about sheet composition.

Thanks.

Scot

[Pat R]

I looked at 170 and found 6, a number of them were probably repeats so
I would say in the 1 in 20-25 range.

[sreader3]

Originally Posted by Pat R

I looked at 170 and found 6, a number of them were probably repeats so
I would say in the 1 in 20-25 range.

Great! Thanks again for taking the time.

[tedzan]

Excellent research, guy.

Hope to see you at the National....and, we (Mark, you, and I) can continue
from where we left off in Chicago last Summer "Talkin BB cards" stories.


TED Z

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Excellent research, guy.

Hope to see you at the National....and, we (Mark, you, and I) can continue
from where we left off in Chicago last Summer "Talkin BB cards" stories.


TED Z

Thank You Ted, but you must have me mixed up with another Patrick.
I wasn't at the national last year.

[tedzan]

I would venture to say that this "curved gap" printing phenomena is unique to the Killian (portrait) card.

I went thru my T206 Piedmont set (519 different cards). Plus, an additional assortment of 112 Piedmont
cards (from the three Series) and no such printer's gap is evident on any of these cards.

Incidently, my Killian does not have it.



TED Z
.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Pat R

Thank You Ted, but you must have me mixed up with another Patrick.
I wasn't at the national last year.

Pardon me....it was a mental "blur"....my mind was thinking of Patrick (VintageCatcher).

Don't mind me, I didn't get much sleep last nite.


TED Z

[sreader3]

Originally Posted by tedzan

I would venture to say that this "curved gap" printing phenomena is unique to the Killian (portrait) card.

I went thru my T206 Piedmont set (519 different cards). Plus, an additional assortment of 112 Piedmont
cards (from the three Series) and no such printer's gap is evident on any of these cards.

Incidently, my Killian does not have it.


TED Z
.

Hi Ted,
Thanks for taking the time to peruse your cards for the gap. It may well be a Killian-only phenomenon. On the other hand, I can imagine the gap being found on the backs of other subjects that occupied the same column and row as Killian on other T206 sheets.
Scot

[Pat R]

Scott, I haven't found a match to the Killian but I did find a Brain and Ganzel
that look like they were in the same position on different sheets. They both
have the same mark that looks like a funky tilde plus are missing ink in the
same places. So there is a chance that there is another player with the same
mark as your Killian.

[atx840]

Hey Pat. I've seen that on a few Ganzels. Definitely the same back plate was used.

[t206hound]

Cool stuff guys! These finds are awesome!

[Mountaineer1999]

Wow... One of these days you guys are going to put everything together and solve a big puzzle.

[egbeachley]

Originally Posted by tedzan

I would venture to say that this "curved gap" printing phenomena is unique to the Killian (portrait) card.

TED Z
.

If it was a hair it may have been longer than you see. Maybe it went over to the "t" in Piedmont on the next card.

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by atx840

Hey Pat. I've seen that on a few Ganzels. Definitely the same back plate was used.

Hi Chris, I had seen it on a quite a few Ganzels also but hadn't noticed it
on any brains until recently, but there was one on ebay last week besides
this one in the scan.

Patrick

[Matvoo]

Donnie I had the same thought we are like scientists for the t206 set we find new info every day

[t206blogcom]

Haven't posted it since 2012 - Here's my Ganzel with the funky letter.

[Pat R]

Jason, your scan came out bigger than mine, all of the Ganzels and brains
with this mark have missing ink in part of the o in of and spot under the e in subjects where I have the red arrows. your scans show this clearer.

Patrick

[brianp-beme]

As a result of Pat's heads up (and knowledge), I thought I would post another example of the T206 Killian portrait with a 'curved gap' on back.

Brian

[atx840]

Pat has Leifield batting anomaly been tracked?