It's the most wonderful time of the year. Cobb/Edwards auction time!

[kcohen]

Originally Posted by Leon

Evidently there is at least one other person that thinks this Frankenstein card is real. I got this message this morning from a guy named Mark..

Leon,
After reading comments made by your board members concerning the newest Honus Wagner Auction I must respectfully decline to join that board.
I want to be part of a board that has a real knowledge about card collecting. A board that uses common sense thinking not some crazy notions that card grading services are the be all to end all.
Leon, card grading services were not around when cards such as a Honus Wagner were printed so they have no clue who printed them and they offer no scientific evidence to disprove the cards validity .
Thanks.

Where does this guy get the idea that there is some crazy notion on this forum that TPGs are the be all and end all? Must never have read any of DM's posts.

In another vein, can't tell you how tough it is for me to get my arms around imagining what it would be like to hear you say "oy vey" with your Texas accent.

Maybe hearing Kinky Friedman say it would give me an idea.

[thecatspajamas]

Originally Posted by Leon

Evidently there is at least one other person that thinks this Frankenstein card is real. I got this message this morning from a guy named Mark..

Leon,
After reading comments made by your board members concerning the newest Honus Wagner Auction I must respectfully decline to join that board.
I want to be part of a board that has a real knowledge about card collecting. A board that uses common sense thinking not some crazy notions that card grading services are the be all to end all.
Leon, card grading services were not around when cards such as a Honus Wagner were printed so they have no clue who printed them and they offer no scientific evidence to disprove the cards validity .
Thanks.

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Sounds very similar to what "goldenarm9" posted as a follow-up comment to the original article that the op linked to:

Goldenarm9
I read that garbage and got a laugh out of it. What you boys do not have
is common sense ...was PSA around when that card or any of them was
printed, i think not , so tell us what printing company printed that
card and what industry standards are PSA supposed to be using to try to
discount that card?
It looks like Cobb-Edwards got the last laugh.

Just more of the age-old tactic of discrediting your accuser rather than backing up your own claim. Why bother making a reasonable argument to prove your point when you can just call your opponent a "dummy" and walk off with a smug look on your face?

[HRBAKER]

Yeah, this board is really "in the bag" for TPG.

[uffda51]

"Scientific evidence?" Grading services?

Helen Keller would know that the card is a fake.

[z28jd]

I wish they would try the scientific study made popular by Sesame Street called "Which one of these things is not like the other". I know T206 cards are nearly impossible to find, but maybe someone could offer up 99 real ones and put their Honus Waldo Wagner in the middle and try to find the one that doesn't look like the others.

[Leon]

Here is the guys last email to me from yesterday...

"I would quit drinking the PSA kook-aid ...who exactly at any of the card grading services are 100 years old and was around when the T-206 card went to print and has knowledge of how it was printed?"


Sounds like a strong argument to me!!




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[z28jd]

It is a good argument! So basically none of them can be considered real, including the Cobb/Edwards, and they are all worthless until PSA hires someone who is 112 and remembers pulling these from a pack. Now that it's settled, please bid accordingly on their auction.

[barrysloate]

Originally Posted by Leon

Here is the guys last email to me from yesterday...

"I would quit drinking the PSA kook-aid ...who exactly at any of the card grading services are 100 years old and was around when the T-206 card went to print and has knowledge of how it was printed?"


Sounds like a strong argument to me!!




.

So according to this guy, there is no verifiable way to authenticate any baseball card. In other words, if it happened before you were born, and you weren't there to witness it, then there is no possible way you can know for sure whether or not it is real.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by z28jd

I have posted scans for years of the same exact reprint they are peddling. Not once has anyone ever offered me anything for it and that is with me saying "It is a reprint" over and over. If I'm certain it's a reprint, and someone in this collecting world is certain it isn't, wouldn't you think that person would say, I'll give you $20 for it just to have it, then they could turn around and make up to $1.5mil apparently?

John, if you have the same reprint, why don't we just make a second one of the 'Cobb/Edwards' card and then try to sell it for $300,000? If no one buys it, or if anyone claims it is a reprint, just scream "reverse discrimination".

(Disclaimer: the above was just a hypothetical which in no way should impact my credibility if I actually locate a Wagner card that just happens to look exactly like the Cincinnati card.)

[Jim F]

Question for the lawyers.

Everyone knows the back story to this card. Every credible source has repeatedly told these guys that the card is fake and they continue their attempts to sell it. Can a charge such as conspiracy to commit fraud be brought against these guys? People are prosecuted all the time for selling fake items and defrauding people on the internet.

[z28jd]

Originally Posted by Runscott

John, if you have the same reprint, why don't we just make a second one of the 'Cobb/Edwards' card and then try to sell it for $300,000? If no one buys it, or if anyone claims it is a reprint, just scream "reverse discrimination".

(Disclaimer: the above was just a hypothetical which in no way should impact my credibility if I actually locate a Wagner card that just happens to look exactly like the Cincinnati card.)

Here it is Scott, get the ball rolling! I am 1/8th American Indian, so we could always use that angle for the discrimination

http://www.net54baseball.com/showpos...0&postcount=30

[wonkaticket]

John, your isn’t your tribal name “Sits With Reprint”, that may be an issue for the plan.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by z28jd

Here it is Scott, get the ball rolling! I am 1/8th American Indian, so we could always use that angle for the discrimination

http://www.net54baseball.com/showpos...0&postcount=30

I'm up for it if I can get the actual card, and get someone to also donate a real T206 Piedmont card.

[z28jd]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

John, your isn’t your tribal name “Sits With Reprint”, that may be an issue for the plan.

It's actually Dances With Chicken Wolf

[ullmandds]

i'll donate a real t206...i'd happily contribute to the mutilation of a t206!

[Kawika]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

John, isn’t your tribal name “Sits With Reprint”, that may be an issue for the plan.

Why do you ask, Two Dogs Reprinting?

[Runscott]

I also have American Indian blood, so i'll take "Runs with Scissors"

[frankbmd]

Bender to Wagner:

"Did you close the tepee door? It's freezing in here."

Wagner to Bender:

"I'll close it, Chief. You know I've got your back."

attributed to former sportswriter, Red Skinner

[birdman42]

Running with the 'Stache's idea of 10 minutes in the DeLorean, how about taking 10 minutes of video showing these clowns buying the reprint?

Bill