My first T206 Wet Sheet Transfer

[Eric72]

Before now, I had never considered picking up cards with print oddities...I just passed them by and kept on going. For some reason, though, this T206 Tolstoi Ed Abbaticchio really caught my eye:



Even the Factory designation is readable



I picked it up at a card show today from a fellow board member who was set up there. We had a great conversation about T206 cards, he taught me a few things about the set, and I walked away with a card that truly appeals to me.

Can't ask for a better hobby experience than that, in my opinion!

Happy Saturday, everyone

Best Regards,

Eric

[wolf441]

Really nice pick up Eric. That is a great example of a WST!!

[t206blogcom]

Nice pickup!

[g_vezina_c55]

Nice congrat !

[Jantz]

Nice pick-up Eric!

Looks like our cards are twins.


Jantz

[Bocabirdman]

Way to keep that monkey fed, Eric. Nice card. Does that make two T206 for you now?

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Bocabirdman

Way to keep that monkey fed, Eric. Nice card. Does that make two T206 for you now?

Mike,

Thanks for the feedback on Abbaticchio. You're right - this is the second raw card I have picked up.

I also have some graded T206...12 cards in total. I just posted a group photo in the, "Let's see 'em laid-out" thread.

Hope all is well. Have a great weekend, my friend.

Best Regards,

Eric

[Craig M]

Sweet Eric; I love local weekend shows for this reason.

I scored this OVERALL card during the week and there is wall-paper stuck to the back of it. I would like to find a way to remove it to see if that is a HINDU BWN underneath.

Looking at the edges; for all I know it could be a blank back.

Any ideas?

Craig

[Eric72]

Steve, Jason, Nelson...thank you so much for the kind words. It feels great to pick up a raw T206, post it here on Net54, and have experienced collectors tell me that I made a nice acquisition

Ditto to you, Craig. As to your question, I honestly have no idea how to get wallpaper off of a baseball card. Trying to remove it from a wall is hard enough Great signature, by the way

Jantz...great card! You obviously have impeccable taste

Best Regards,

Eric

[atx840]

Cool. I've seen players name on the back but not factory on the front.

[t206blogcom]

Craig - Try soaking the card to see if the wall paper will come off on its own. If you haven't soaked a card before, there are a few threads on Net54 on how to do that. If you try it, let us know/see the results.

[cfc1909]

Craig

I would say just by looking at the front your Overall is not a Hindu. Look at this one and compare the colors. Most common redish fronts are orange when the back is Hindu. This does not happen on the red south hindus

[cfc1909]

and a Tinker for comparison

[lharri3600]

Beautiful Eric!!!!

[cfc1909]

and Steinfeldt

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by atx840

Cool. I've seen players name on the back but not factory on the front.

Chris,

Interesting...is this particular example somewhat uncommon, then?

Please let me know.

Best Regards,

Eric

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by lharri3600

Beautiful Eric!!!!

Larry,

Many thanks. I appreciate the feedback on this pickup

Best,

Eric

[teetwoohsix]

Nice score Eric, beautiful !! And great cards everyone- I love the wet sheet transfers. Schulte back view Tolstoi wet sheet transfer (but no factory transfer ).

Sincerely, Clayton

[mrvster]

ERIc and Jantz....

CONGRATS ON THE TWINZ!

Rare WST OF THE CAPTION...

wst are a more "common" print anomally(especially tollies) , but you two have are the rare caption printed........

you scored a "rarer" wst both of you..

clayton, nice wst!

eric....caution...you may become bitten by the freak bug

[GregMitch34]

Yet WST seem to bring little or no premium--is that correct. I have a nice one so have more than a little interest in this, but I can't seem to find examples of real premiums, looking at graded cards, at various auctions and eBay. Thoughts?

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by teetwoohsix

Nice score Eric, beautiful !! And great cards everyone- I love the wet sheet transfers.

Clayton,

Thanks for the kind words and for posting the Schulte. I agree…quite a few neat cards being shown here.

Originally Posted by mrvster

eric....caution...you may become bitten by the freak bug

Johnny,

Thanks for the warning; however, you’re too late. I knew the bug had already bitten me before I left the dealers table.

Best Regards,

Eric

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by GregMitch34

Yet WST seem to bring little or no premium--is that correct. I have a nice one so have more than a little interest in this, but I can't seem to find examples of real premiums, looking at graded cards, at various auctions and eBay. Thoughts?

Greg,

I had truly hoped that other board members would have weighed in before now. Candidly, I have almost no experience with T206 print oddities. After all, before yesterday, I largely ignored them. As such, I cannot offer an informed answer to your question.

Having said that, I can offer a personal observation. It seems to me that there is a demand for cards such as these. Whether this is a short or long term situation is anyone's guess; however, one thing is certain. T206 cards with print anomalies currently draw the attention of a certain segment of Pre-War baseball card collectors.

Beyond this, I can only speculate...however...if Leon is OK with this, I would be open to conducting a blind poll on the matter. Should T206 cards with a WST command a premium?

Quite an inetersting question...in my humble and admittedly inexperienced opinion.

Best Regards,

Eric

[mrvster]

Hey Guys!
Eric....Your card and Jantz are great cards.....I'm still stoked for you....
Eric, you will continue to search these freaks it's so addicting...
To answer your question....There are small premuims put on wst currently, but i think that will change as collectors realize they are a pretty neat print freaks...wst are simply the transer of not dried ink onto either the front or the back of a card, and usually have the reverse of the image due to the placement.....The wst are debated wether some occurred at the factory, or some say wst caused by storage years later due to enviromental conditions(fire, water, pressure, chemical, ect)....the ones caused after the factory have ZERO premuim put on them sincwe they are technically altered cards after the fact....but the ones caused at the factory carry a premuim according to how DRAMATIC or DEEP or CLEAR, or ODD ( LIKE eRIc and Jantz have the factory shown which is much rarer than the ones just showing the back and not the clear factory)....those tolstois are more common wst, but the factory is not, and id put your cards at least $120.00 plus ....and i truly feel they will double as interest increases for the neat little oddities....so YES!! your cards will/should carry some premuim....

The premuim on the wst transfer varies due to many variables....(back/front/clear / darker images/ect/captions)....and can vary quite large...

[Jantz]

Eric & Greg

Sometimes wet sheet transfers can bring a premium, but I believe it comes down to an individual's preference.

A collector may wish to pay a premium if he chooses, but back brands like Old Mill, Tolstoi and Sweet Caporal are fairly common with wet sheet transfers. A good example is the two Abbaticchios that Eric & I have posted. If we each have one, then I'm sure there are more.

In some cases though when a wet sheet transfer is truly unique or extreme, a premium might be in order.

A lot of Polar Bear back T206s have mild wet sheet transfers. Most appear as just a blue line running along a white border or two. In an extreme case though, like the Needham I have shown, I would be willing to pay a premium, while other collectors may dislike the card because the wet sheet transfer distracts from the overall front image.

Hope this helps

Jantz

**added after reading Johnny's post** - I was jumping back & forth between Ebay & Net54 and didn't get to read Johnny's post until I posted mine. I concur with what Johhny has said. A premium can depend on the factors of the wet sheet transfer.

[teetwoohsix]

I agree with Johnny & Jantz. I like them alot, going back to Johnny's "snowflake" term,,,,,it makes the card a little more unique. As far as a premium, it probably boils down to who is wanting it and what someone is willing to pay. I think over time WST will become more popular and if that's the case, they may command a little more $$ (and, no, I don't own a crystal ball ).

Sincerely, Clayton

[atx840]

Agreed, most tend to take away from eye appeal but some can definitely command a premium.

Speaking of WST twins, I have seen another one of these Stephens with name on the back.

[Sean]

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Hi guys, this is the first time I've successfully posted a scan. I have a number of Wet Sheet Transfers, but this one is special. I can't explain how it can be this dark. Maybe someone can tell me how this happened.

[mrvster]

Your Tinker IS AN OVERPRINT INMO.....

altho is is "reversed" like it should be....your card is a 1 of a kind....not on wst in the traditional sense....too clear.....or it was immediately stacked after printing which i doubt....

id send that back to sgc to see if "overprint" on the flip is more appropriate.....that would turn that into a 2k card.....at least imho..

TINKER IS INSANE!!

Chris,
your stephens another rare wst w the name...

i have a similiar mccormick, and i think jamie has one also....they are of the $150.00-$200.00 type of wsters