Frank chance near mint condition. Help please

[Bdt1981]

What is the black lettering bottom right corner. How to tell if this is legit card. Found in safe inside a storage unit ibought. There were 3 t206 cards and 2 big cards like the one is on.

[npa589]

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[Bdt1981]

Here is what I have. Any want to offer anything? They are in mint condition.

[Wildfireschulte]

Great first two posts - welcome to the Net!

[Eric72]

I’ve never seen that exact mark on a baseball card before. However, I have seen similar markings on items owned by museums. Some curators use a system of letters and numbers to mark incoming items as they catalog them.

I’m not saying that’s the case here; however, it was the first thing I thought of when I saw a closeup picture of the black markings on the back/bottom/right of that card.

[Bdt1981]

Originally Posted by Eric72

I’ve never seen that exact mark on a baseball card before. However, I have seen similar markings on items owned by museums. Some curators use a system of letters and numbers to mark incoming items as they catalog them.

I’m not saying that’s the case here; however, it was the first thing I thought of when I saw a closeup picture of the black markings on the back/bottom/right of that card.

You think it would devalue it?

[chalupacollects]

Might be from a buyback program


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[scottglevy]

The “big cards” are T3 Turkey Reds. The most important thing is to assess whether they are genuine or reprints. Generally extremely high grade card “finds” tend to be reprints (although a few exceptions exist). The scans are not clear enough for me to feel confident in rendering an opinion.

[Bdt1981]

Originally Posted by scottglevy

The “big cards” are T3 Turkey Reds. The most important thing is to assess whether they are genuine or reprints. Generally extremely high grade card “finds” tend to be reprints (although a few exceptions exist). The scans are not clear enough for me to feel confident in rendering an opinion.

I will get better pix. I do believe they are real deal. I'll not dare send them to anyone to get them stolen. I been researching and what I have found is jaw dropping. These appear to be the best in the world. Quality.

[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by Bdt1981

I will get better pix. I do believe they are real deal. I'll not dare send them to anyone to get them stolen. I been researching and what I have found is jaw dropping. These appear to be the best in the world. Quality.

Comedy gold....

[Lucas00]

As they are I think the stamps are suspicious. The fact you found Brown and chance of all players is also suspicious. The fact they are in amazing condition is suspicious (aside from the stamp). I would definitely send them in to a third party for a legit check and grading. Not making any accusations, but it's impossible to tell with those grainy photos if these are legitimate. Finding corners that sharp, raw on a t206 is like 1 in 10,000. My opinion at least.

[Bdt1981]

Originally Posted by Lucas00

As they are I think the stamps are suspicious. The fact you found Brown and chance of all players is also suspicious. The fact they are in amazing condition is suspicious (aside from the stamp). I would definitely send them in to a third party for a legit check and grading. Not making any accusations, but it's impossible to tell with those grainy photos if these are legitimate. Finding corners that sharp, raw on a t206 is like 1 in 10,000. My opinion at least.

Also the yellow chance Is there as well. In equal condition.

[Bdt1981]

Originally Posted by Lucas00

As they are I think the stamps are suspicious. The fact you found Brown and chance of all players is also suspicious. The fact they are in amazing condition is suspicious (aside from the stamp). I would definitely send them in to a third party for a legit check and grading. Not making any accusations, but it's impossible to tell with those grainy photos if these are legitimate. Finding corners that sharp, raw on a t206 is like 1 in 10,000. My opinion at least.

Crazy thing is these cards aren't even the real gem in the safe. How about the actual original contract for hank aaron and his bat contract. Not a copy this is the real thing. I feel like it's the only real one thst exists. Even has the hole where his autograph was was taken yo put on the bat. A letter from babe ruth to his school. Real thing.

[Lucas00]

Originally Posted by Bdt1981

Crazy thing is these cards aren't even the real gem in the safe. How about the actual original contract for hank aaron and his bat contract. Not a copy this is the real thing. I feel like it's the only real one thst exists. Even has the hole where his autograph was was taken yo put on the bat. A letter from babe ruth to his school. Real thing.

I like to give the benefit of the doubt, but these are some pretty wild claims. I think you probably found the contents of somebody who got "Coach's Cornered".

[Bdt1981]

Originally Posted by Lucas00

I like to give the benefit of the doubt, but these are some pretty wild claims. I think you probably found the contents of somebody who got "Coach's Cornered".

Coaches cornered? I don't understand? I promise i have no reason to make this stuff up. And I know the claims may be wild but I'm 100% not lying or bullshitting at all. Humor me a minute if I were to have found something like I described how would I go about selling it? I'm not a collector f sports stuff of course I would like to get as much as possible but the numbers I see are beyond crazy.

[Louisville_Hugger]

Can you post better pics of the cards? To me, at least from those pics, I’d be extremely skeptical. Coloring on both looks muted, centering is perfect which you rarely see. Couple these with the stamp, the overall condition, and the backstory and there’s a high probability they aren’t legit. That said, no one will be able to give you a definitive answer by looking at just those pictures.

[jsfriedm]

Originally Posted by Bdt1981

I promise i have no reason to make this stuff up.

I can think of many thousands of reasons.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Bdt1981

What do you mean?

Please note - the following is a general statement; I'm not saying this is the case with the cards you've shown.

Museums occasionally write catalog numbers directly on objects in their collection. Presumably, this serves at least two distinct purposes. First, it aids with the processing of an incoming acquisition. Secondly, it serves to identify their property at a later date.

[chalupacollects]

Those MLB marks look like dot matrix printing. Not older than late 1970’s or 80’s…


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[Carter08]

I’m also impressed that members are being kind here given the claims.

[Leon]

This was moved from a BST section. Get out the popcorn.
I, too, am impressed with the restraint shown by Net54baseball members.
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[Mark17]

Originally Posted by Bdt1981

What is the black lettering bottom right corner. How to tell if this is legit card. Found in safe inside a storage unit ibought. There were 3 t206 cards and 2 big cards like the one is on.

Just curious, how is it you know that the small cards are referred to as T206, but are unaware what the big cards are called? They were all issued during the same 3-year period.

You say you've been researching them, but still don't know what the "big cards" are?

[Mark17 shows a bit less restraint than others...]

[Hxcmilkshake]

Pretty sure he was banned on Blowout not too too long ago

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[Bdt1981]

Originally Posted by Hxcmilkshake

Pretty sure he was banned on Blowout not too too long ago

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You are sadly mistaken. Wtf is blowout. Banned for what? I'm not even saying the cards are real. Have I once stated these are legit t206 cards? He'll no I haven't. I'm not trying to scam anybody. Have I asked for millions of dollars? Have I asked for any dollars? These cards along with some other things came exactly where I said they came from. Here is a couple letters that were in with the cards. What you think about these

[Bdt1981]

That is a letter from president Franklin Roosevelt asking them to allow baseball to continue thru ww2 and Jackie Robinsons retirement letter.

[npa589]

You ask and you shall receive, gotcha! Can we just ban him….he has been trying to coyly pawn off reprints he just bought from ebay. These are the exact four he has been posting in BST.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/29690568932...mis&media=COPY

[Bdt1981]

Originally Posted by npa589

You ask and you shall receive, gotcha! Can we just ban him….he has been trying to coyly pawn off reprints he just bought from ebay. These are the exact four he has been posting in BST.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/29690568932...mis&media=COPY

Pawn off I'm only asking how to tell if they are legit. None of you could afford one of these cards.

[bigfanNY]

I timed it, it took me 7 seconds to find definitive proof that your Jackie Robinson letter was a Fake! Please stop posting your trash. I won't spend another 7 seconds proving your FDR letter is trash because it is but it's just not worth my time. I have no idea what dark hole you crawled out of. But Please just crawl back in.

[Lucas00]

Originally Posted by bigfanNY

I won't spend another 7 seconds proving your FDR letter is trash because it is but it's just not worth my time.

Its at the baseball hof museum lol.

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

This is just so asinine. Please lock this thread already.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Bdt1981

Pawn off I'm only asking how to tell if they are legit. None of you could afford one of these cards.

You are welcome to stay, but if you show anymore fakes and reprints you are out of here. Collect with the rest of us (real cards) or please go someplace else to try to get people to think your fakes are real. Not one of them is. This isn't the best place to try to get over like you are. Maybe go to some Reddit place or Instagram or something. And most of us can afford everything you have shown, except the T206 Wagner....then I would have to sell my house and I can't live in a card!

PS...I changed my mind as I don't want to deal with this any longer. Good bye BDT!
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[NiceDocter]

As the immortal Jeff Spicolli said….. “Aloha Mr Hand!”

[npa589]

We all know these are fake, but now we know that he intentionally erased the number on the back of the Wagner. We know this because he posted the Wagner in the BST with the number still there. Now it appears here with no number. Unless of course he has TWO mint Honus Wagner cards...

Attached are HIS hilarious pictures. You can see the one with all 4 of them, though intentionally blurry and blue as though he lives in 1994 Afghanistan, that all 4 still have a number on the bottom right.

Magically, in this thread, the number has disappeared on the Wagner.

[molenick]

I know this guy was not legit, but as a public service to future "finders" of baseball memorabilia:

If you discover the most famous baseball card (T206 Honus Wagner) and the most famous baseball letter (the FDR "green light" letter) in a storage unit/cigar box/under some linoleum then they are reprints. If you discover a beat up T206 Heinie Wagner with writing on the back and a note from someone's mom asking if her son could be excused from gym class because of a broken toe, then they are real.

[Beercan collector]

Originally Posted by Leon

PS...I changed my mind as I don't want to deal with this any longer. Good bye BDT!
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Party pooper 😐

[npa589]

Alright. We are one step away from George Washington’s teeth being pulled out of a tin lunchbox.


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[Bdt1981]

Originally Posted by npa589

Alright. We are one step away from George Washington’s teeth being pulled out of a tin lunchbox.


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You think I made these? Lol. Boy you top notch collectors are snobbie