Greatest Living Player...

[clydepepper]

I know; I know; perhaps too soon, but the first online 'poll' I saw included only Sandy Koufax, Pete Rose & Nolan Ryan.

My choice would be Johnny Bench, who revolutionized the art of catching.

I never learn how to set up a poll here, but, if someone wants to - and doesn't think it's too soon...I will be sure to add one vote for JB.


My apologies if anyone if offended by me bringing this up...but, if that be the case, part of me says , 'Lighten Up Francis'.

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[ClementeFanOh]

No offense taken by this member. You named 3 of my choices- JB, Sandy,
Nolan. A couple guys "on deck" are Cal R, Rickey Henderson. Trent King

[Peter_Spaeth]

Bonds and Clemens and ARod, but nobody wants to go there I am sure.

Otherwise, Henderson and Schmidt? Maddux?

[bk400]

I'll second Cal Ripken and add Albert Pujols.

[G1911]

Bonds by a very wide gap. If most popular, someone else, but there’s not much of a reasonable math argument for anyone else as greatest.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by G1911

Bonds by a very wide gap. If most popular, someone else, but there’s not much of a reasonable math argument for anyone else as greatest.

+1. The numbers don't lie, all other considerations excluded. 7 MVPs, 4th in WAR (#1 for position players), 5th in OPS, #1 in HR and Walks, 5th in total bases, and over 500 SB for good measure.

[bk400]

Well, since no one else has gone there yet, I will. If Barry Bonds is the greatest living baseball player, then Lance Armstrong is the greatest living cyclist.

I think any "greatest baseball player" conversation has to define how PEDs are considered.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Bonds and Clemens and ARod, but nobody wants to go there I am sure.

Otherwise, Henderson and Schmidt? Maddux?

I would say Roger Clemens with Barry Bonds second.

[ClementeFanOh]

PeterSpaeth- Good call on Mike Schmidt. Bad calls otherwise.

BK 400- you are spot on.

Exhibitman- I am shocked by your comment, you are normally a very sound
and lucid thinker. The numbers for Bonds are, in fact, a lie. That's the
problem, he's persona non grata. The fault for that lies with Barry Bonds.

G1911- Once again, a swing and a miss. I'd recommend some HGH and
the clear and the cream, to improve your approach here. Popularity isn't
the measure, Bench and Koufax somehow fly under the radar despite their
greatness. Just as Hulk Hogan actually wasn't the "world's greatest
wrestler", sideshow Barry can't be the world's greatest living player. I am
sure you'll blow a gasket by citing "appeals to authority" and all sorts of
tortuous reasoning, but it won't change the reality that the clown you
champion is a pariah by his own hand. Aroid too, to save you the trouble.
This reply is plenty long so, to cap it off, Frankenstein monsters don't
make the cut- and it's remarkable I even have to say it.

Trent King

[G1911]

Originally Posted by ClementeFanOh

PeterSpaeth- Good call on Mike Schmidt. Bad calls otherwise.

BK 400- you are spot on.

Exhibitman- I am shocked by your comment, you are normally a very sound
and lucid thinker. The numbers for Bonds are, in fact, a lie. That's the
problem, he's persona non grata. The fault for that lies with Barry Bonds.

G1911- Once again, a swing and a miss. I'd recommend some HGH and
the clear and the cream, to improve your approach here. Popularity isn't
the measure, Bench and Koufax somehow fly under the radar despite their
greatness. Just as Hulk Hogan actually wasn't the "world's greatest
wrestler", sideshow Barry can't be the world's greatest living player. I am
sure you'll blow a gasket by citing "appeals to authority" and all sorts of
tortuous reasoning, but it won't change the reality that the clown you
champion is a pariah by his own hand. Aroid too, to save you the trouble.
This reply is plenty long so, to cap it off, Frankenstein monsters don't
make the cut- and it's remarkable I even have to say it.

Trent King

Your personal attacks are off topic. Please stay on topic

[SyrNy1960]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Bonds and Clemens and ARod, but nobody wants to go there I am sure.

Actually, I'm good with all three!

[robw1959]

Originally Posted by SyrNy1960

Actually, I'm good with all three!

Wasn't Clemens acquitted of using PEDs in a court of law? So he is under suspicion mostly in the court of public opinion despite s lack of evidence.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by robw1959

Wasn't Clemens acquitted of using PEDs in a court of law? So he is under suspicion mostly in the court of public opinion despite s lack of evidence.

As I recall, the only evidence against Clemens is

1) His trainer's testimony, whose story frequently changed while under pressure from the government to give others up. The only physical evidence McNamee provided was not really evidence at all, as Clemens never denied that McNamee gave him injections of other things, and so the needle itself doesn't prove either man's story. Neither Clemens nor McNamee was consistent.

2) Andy Pettite's also not consistent memory of a conversation in which he believed Clemens said he had tried them.



I believe that in all likelihood Clemens did in fact use them, but the evidence is extremely flimsy, at best. A massive waste of taxpayer money to pursue this loser of a case. His bizarre aging pattern is much more indicative than the testimonial.

[irv]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

I know; I know; perhaps too soon, but the first online 'poll' I saw included only Sandy Koufax, Pete Rose & Nolan Ryan.

My choice would be Johnny Bench, who revolutionized the art of catching.

I never learn how to set up a poll here, but, if someone wants to - and doesn't think it's too soon...I will be sure to add one vote for JB.


My apologies if anyone if offended by me bringing this up...but, if that be the case, part of me says , 'Lighten Up Francis'.

.

Don't sweat it. MLB writers beat you to the question.
https://www.yardbarker.com/mlb/artic...13132_40505956

[JollyElm]

Barry Bonds walks into a room already having all of the questions and answers to an IQ Test in hand. After finishing up, he'll be hailed as the smartest (living) man in the world by some people.

PATHETIC!!!!!!!