T206 Doyle missing Dot after the Y in N.Y

[danmckee]

Check this out friends..... I find a "No Dot" after the Y in N.Y on ebay PSA graded in horrible shape. I buy it, it arrives and you can clearly see the dot on the card that is NOT visable in the seller's scan. Now he didn't advertise it as missing the Dot so I am guessing he didn't doctor the scan but how else could this have happened? You can clearly see the Dot after the N.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/125986758788 Click on this link to see the scan with no Dot

[midmo]

Could be a scanner issue. If there are any dust removal settings it can remove them. I've accidentally scanned and seen it remove the dots on PSA labels like a PSA 1.5 would become a 1 5

[effe]

delete

[danmckee]

I don't know about the scanner issue.... The Dot after the N is plain as day and after the Y is Missing plain as day.

[midmo]

Yeah results can be inconsistent. Scanner settings can obviously be adjusted. I've seen it remove one here or there (seemingly random), then remove more as you increase the setting.

If not a scanner issue then it had to be an intentional edit to deceive right? Curious did you ask the seller?

Originally Posted by danmckee

I don't know about the scanner issue.... The Dot after the N is plain as day and after the Y is Missing plain as day.

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by midmo

Yeah results can be inconsistent. Scanner settings can obviously be adjusted. I've seen it remove one here or there (seemingly random), then remove more as you increase the setting.

If not a scanner issue then it had to be an intentional edit to deceive right? Curious did you ask the seller?

Yes I asked him, no reply yet but if he was going to intentionally do it, then why not advertise it in the title?

Idk I am just mind boggled here.... Not with Ebay though, they shit on me immediately closing the return even after saying they see the no dot and then the dot. in other words ebay allows sellers to doctor scans if they want. That is basically what they told me.

[danmckee]

Update: No answer at all from the seller so far and I have been contacted by 1 very honest hobby friend who also had an issue with him.

So not looking good but I am more pissed at ebay. I have clear proof that the displayed item was portrayed different than I received it and they still smoked me.

[x2drich2000]

Almost certainly a scanner issue and I doubt it was intentional. Sometimes scanners will remove lines/dots depending on settings. Here is an example where my scanner removed the 1 in "1909" on the label and I never noticed it for a few years.



Dan, I'll also send you an email with some additional info on the seller.

[Leon]

Possibly a scanner issue, but that doesn't really change the issue of not being described correctly. If the scan shows something different than what is being bought, then it wasn't advertised correctly.

DJ- Can you PM me info you might have on that seller too?
I know someone that knows someone LOL.....

Originally Posted by x2drich2000

Almost certainly a scanner issue and I doubt it was intentional. Sometimes scanners will remove lines/dots depending on settings. Here is an example where my scanner removed the 1 in "1909" on the label and I never noticed it for a few years.



Dan, I'll also send you an email with some additional info on the seller.

[ricktmd]

Ebay has no interest in a dot missing. While is plausible that a scanner has something stuck to it as I used to have that happen back when I would scan documents with liquid paper on it. The next scan might have a line through it or pieces missing. This does not look like that to me. This looks like an alteration of the scan in photoshop or other program that has tools to erase or add stuff to pictures. Typical of Ebay to say it doesn't matter because they too offer tools to change or improve images on listing. I will use ebays tools to make the card online match the naked eye. If the seller doesn't respond he is at least a jerk and at worst a cheat. He is a t206 seller and even if it was an accident, he knows the values and should respond immediately if it was just a mistake. You could have asked before you purchased but I have done that before and then the seller posts the secret I found in their listing which is not great either. Regardless of why its a clear misrepresentation. The seller got much more than fair value due to either a bad scan or photo edit. I would try ebay again and demand a better outcome and supervisor. They could force the seller to take it back. I had sold an item that was a skimpy bathing suit. No returns. A girl got it an said it doesnt fit and ebay gave her the money back and pressured the hell out of me first to accept a return .

[packs]

Never mind.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

I would argue the seller knew exactly what he was doing, even before we found out about the refusal on a return and the expunging of the feedback.

Why else would you list it with the exorbitant "buy-it-now" price he had on it unless you were trying to rope in someone who knew the card's APPARENT value. It's a $30 - $40 card otherwise at best.