Which Player Do You Want?

[oldjudge]

Player A. Player B

R. 130. 113
H. 207. 163
HR. 34. 36
RBI. 143. 102
BA. .325. .298
OBP. .398. .421



All stats based on a 162 game season. Oh, player A was a better fielder.

[Jason]

A of course though I think by name recognition it would be B once revealed!

[GeoPoto]

If they play the same position, it appears obvious that Player A is more valuable. If Player A is 1B, and Player B is a CF, SS, or C, it may depend on how poor their fielding is. All we know is that it is not (at least not quite) as good as that of Player A, presumably measured by fielding percentage, which may not adjust adequately for range, arm strength, etc. I suppose it could also turn on how good their teams are at offense (as part of a strong offense, RBI opportunity and run scoring is enhanced) and where they play (offense could be easier or more difficult based on park effects and pitcher quality in their division).

So, I will take A if they play the same position and B if the defensive importance of the positions played favors B sufficiently.

[ALBB]

A

[Jim65]

Not enough info there to make a fair judgement.

Need more info, the runs and RBIs certainly favor player A but that could be a product of the players around him. Are players from the same era? Do they play different positions? Did they play in similar or different ballparks? Player B walked more, was that because he was often pitched around?

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by Jim65

Not enough info there to make a fair judgement.

Need more info, the runs and RBIs certainly favor player A but that could be a product of the players around him. Are players from the same era? Do they play different positions? Did they play in similar or different ballparks? Player B walked more, was that because he was often pitched around?

+1 Agree

It is an interesting and a good exercise but I agree need more information to truly say
If I had to pick om the limited info I would pick player A

[oldjudge]

They both played the same position in the outfield.

[Keith H. Thompson]

because of the OBP

[skelly423]

Give me player B and his 2 extra HRs, higher Obp, and presumably, superstar recognition.

[bnorth]

A, was obviously playing on a much better team so I choose them.

[Gorditadogg]

I know who they are too. Player A obviously played in an era where runs were a lot easier to come by. Nobody in the last 60 years averaged 143 RBIs.

And regards to defense, both players' DWAR is +0.3 per year.

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[Gorditadogg]

Oh shoot, I was wrong about who Player B is. Duh! How about adding in Player C then:

A 34 HR, .325/.398/.579 155 OPS+, +0.3 DWAR
B 36 HR, .298/.421/.577 172 O+, -0.6 DWAR
C 40 HR, .303/.415/.587 176 O+, +0.3 DWAR

Other random info:

A R/RBI 130/143, SB 3, MVPs 3, Top5 6
B R/RBI 113/102, SB 10, MVPs 3, Top5 9
C R/RBI 121/103, SB 23, MVPs 3, Top5 9



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[jsfriedm]

Or how about these two?:

Player A/Player B

R. 93. 101.
H. 173. 154.
HR. 27. 16.
RBI. 107. 69.
BA. 290. 271.
OPS. 855. 819.

You can do a lot of funny things with numbers...

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by jsfriedm

Or how about these two?:



Player A/Player B



R. 93. 101.

H. 173. 154.

HR. 27. 16.

RBI. 107. 69.

BA. 290. 271.

OPS. 855. 819.



You can do a lot of funny things with numbers...

Yep, point taken. Especially if you leave important stuff out.

A SB 7, GG 0, OPS+ 123, MVP 1, Top5 1
B SB 42, GG 5, OPS+ 132, MVP 2, Top5 4

Both great players, but it's easy to see why only one is in the HOF.

And just coincidentally, Player A stats are almost a doppelganger for this recently retired player C:

A 27 HR, .290/.356/.500/.855, 123 OPS+, 7 SB, 1 MVP, 1 Top5, 0 GG

C 28 HR, .290/.361/.495/.856, 118 OPS+, 7 SB, 0 MVP, 2 Top5, 2 GG

[nebboy]

I would want to know about how he is in the clubhouse and if he is a total s#*t show of a personality- numbers are great but there is more to being a great player than that.

[raulus]

I’ll take one of each.

[ValKehl]

Originally Posted by nebboy

I would want to know about how he is in the clubhouse and if he is a total s#*t show of a personality- numbers are great but there is more to being a great player than that.

This!!