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Old 10-19-2022, 04:12 PM
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Default MLB Greats Who Bordered on Post Season Zero's Or Mediocre

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MLB Greats who were Zero's or boderline Mediocre

Who do you think Qualifies and why
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Ted Williams.

He hit .200 with no homers and one RBI in 30 at-bats plate appearances.
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Barry Bonds mostly sucked. Ty Cobb wasn't very good.
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Barry Bonds mostly sucked. Ty Cobb wasn't very good.
Bonds while hitting only .245 hit 9 home runs and walked 52 times in 200 AB's.

Stick to hijacking threads by talking about bad music, your baseball knowledge is subpar.

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Bonds while hitting only .245 hit 9 home runs and walked 52 times in 200 AB's.

Stick to hijacking threads by talking about bad music, your baseball knowledge is subpar.
You can also look at the 2002 WS, which tends to make up for his previous struggles:

.471 BA
.700 OBP
1.994 OPS
8 hits, including 2 doubles and 4 HRs in 17 ABs, plus 13 walks for 30 PAs total

While my Giants lost to the Halos and their worthless rally monkey, there was some chatter that Bonds might have a legit shot at MVP.
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Barry Bonds .191 with 1 HR and 3 RBI without steroids was a total zero.

Willie Mays .248/.343/.325 1 HR in 134 PA was almost as bad.

Clayton Kershaw 4.22 ERA in 194 is the worst for pitchers with 100+ innings.

Roger Clemens was almost as bad with his 3.75 ERA (3.88 ERA 1-2 in 9 starts without steroids).
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Bonds while hitting only .245 hit 9 home runs and walked 52 times in 200 AB's.

Stick to hijacking threads by talking about bad music, your baseball knowledge is subpar.
And those averages were helped a lot by one outstanding WS. As I said, he MOSTLY sucked, and I stand by that. There is likely a bad song on point too, wise one.
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you chose to introduce politics?

He wasn’t lying...
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And those averages were helped a lot by one outstanding WS. As I said, he MOSTLY sucked, and I stand by that. There is likely a bad song on point too, wise one.
"one outstanding World Series"

hard to suck when you are outstanding. (that's what she said)

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First one that comes to mind for me is Ted Williams 1946 World Series
BA of .200
5 for 25
No extra base hits
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5 BBs
Total 30 PAs

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Mike Trout was by far the worst.

Lifetime Postseason BA:

.083


1 hit in 15 At Bats.....and vs the Royals no less.


Also caught stealing.
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First one that comes to mind for me is Ted Williams 1946 World Series
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Total 30 PAs
Williams played hurt.

"1946 World Series. The Red Sox played a seven-game Series against the St. Louis Cardinals. The Red Sox had finished so far ahead of everyone else that they coasted near the end, several players taking off substantial periods of time. The Cardinals had to play two extra games, winning both games of a best-of-three playoff against the Brooklyn Dodgers. While trying to keep in shape, the Red Sox brought in some other American Leaguers and had sort of a mock game during which Williams was hit on the elbow and seriously hurt. He wasn’t able to perform up to par, and that may well have cost the Red Sox the hard-fought World Series. He never had another chance to play in a World Series."
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Even though he was hurt, Ted was absolutely crushed that he performed so poorly.

You can say what you want about his antagonistic relationship with the Boston media-and I certainly think a lot of it was deserved. But Teddy Ballgame never made any excuses. He felt he let the team down. The Red Sox wouldn't have sniffed that lone World Series without him.

When he had a subpar 1959 due to neck issues, he refused a raise to come back for the '60 season, accepting a one year deal for what he was paid in '59. He refused to go out on a down note, came back, and absolutely destroyed the baseball. At age 41, he hit .316, and slammed 29 home runs in 310 AB. He OPS'd .1.096, good for a 190 OPS+.

I'll always wonder what Ted would have done if he'd come back for the 1961 campaign, with two new teams in the AL. He hit .388 in 1957, and if he was healthy, with that watered down pitching, and only playing about 100 games, I wonder if he could have approached .400 again.

Of course, then he'd have to go deep in his final at bat again.
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For me I remember Mr. May as George Steinbrenner like to call him

He hit just .208 over 116 plate appearances, including a 1-for-22 World Series in 1981. This followed an equally disastrous ALCS the same year, when he hit .154 over three games.

This is Dave Winfield
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Roger Maris and Stan Musial didn't exactly wear out any baseballs in multiple series.
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As a Yankee fan, that warms my heart.....and his brother Ben is a friend of mine!
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How is Aaron Judge's post season hitting?
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How is Aaron Judge's post season hitting?
with the dome open or closed?
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My favorite modern player, sure shot HOFer, has been to 4 postseasons and is 5 for 33 = .152 ave with 1 dinger.

This year was 1 for 8

You are better than this! Hopefully time will turn this around


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This one was a complete surprise to me. I had no idea.
In some ways, this is a double dip because you’ve got a quasi-zero who delivered in the WS against a HOFer who was a WS zero…

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