Turns out the dealers aren't the only ones gouging

[bbcard1]

I just noticed that the Friday day admission for CSA in Chantilly VA/Dulles shows is $25 from 2 - 5. I normally go up n Fridays and because it is a 400-mile round trip, I prefer to get in and get back on the road before it's too late.

Fridays have traditionally been free admission.

It's a perfectly fine show, but it's not like there are freebies and this isn't the 1980s so there are no particular bargains to be found when the doors open...any hug bargains were scooped up by the show dealers hours before the doors open.

I get COVID and everything, but it seems a lot to pay just in order to spend money.

[Rhotchkiss]

I actually have an extra Friday VIP ticket I can’t use. If you want to me there at just before 2pm Friday, you are welcome to it for free

[JollyElm]

It's possibly a combination of things. Out here a couple of weeks ago, I tried to go to a free show that would traditionally have a small, basic turnout of people ambling in and out. But because of the market boom (especially with modern cards), there were untold numbers of people on line to get in first thing in the morning. Hundreds upon hundreds. It was batsh*t crazy. Sure, it can be argued that some of the interest was due to it being so long since a show was allowed to take place, but I digress. We were told the wait time would be around 2 hours to enter, but that was a complete fabrication. My first thought was if they charged an admission, the line would have probably been greatly reduced, as the more frugal people would have been a bit turned off and stayed home. Maybe that's part of what's happening with your show? More revenue for the promoters and less people actually there in line pissed off at said promoters??

[Johnny630]

Trying to Boost Attendance on Saturday and Sunday on a nice spring Mid Atlantic weekend.

[ezez420]

I don’t remember Friday ever being free.

In all due respect wanting to get in early with no cost and the same access to the dealers in the room is kind of a bit cheap. Lucky for you Ryan is a nice guy. One thing if your friend has a pass for you but “expecting” is nervy and cheap. Just like your comment of promoter “gouging”.


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[Michael B]

Many shows charge a high fee for early admission. Not just card shows, but others I have attended - antique shows, book fairs etc. I would suggest that the 'super duper double secret we supply you with two condoms and a beer pass' that they sell for The National is pretty much the same thing. Additionally you are misleading everyone with you claim of gouging. It is FREE!! from 5-8 pm on Friday. You should have disclosed that in your original complaint. Your choice to get in and out to beat the traffic is a you problem.

Edit - my mistake. It used to be free Friday evenings.

[prestigecollectibles]

These are the times and prices on their website, but shouldn't the $25 Friday admission say 2:00 p.m.- 8:00 p.m.?

Hours and Admission
Friday 2:00 p.m.- 5:00 p.m. $25 (early admission)
Friday 5:00 p.m.- 8:00 p.m. $10
Saturday 9:00 a.m.-.5:00 p.m. $10
Sunday 10:00 a.m.- 4:00 p.m. $10

[Johnny630]

Friday Sounds Like A Perfect Day To Attend The Show, Less Dollar Box Dumpster Divers Clogging Up The Room.

Not Everything in Life is Free.

[2dueces]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Friday Sounds Like A Perfect Day To Attend The Show, Less Dollar Box Dumpster Divers Clogging Up The Room.

Not Everything in Life is Free.

What’s wrong with the $1 dumpster divers? Many people look through common boxes to complete sets. Without all parts of the business there isn’t a business. Not everyone goes to shows to spend $10K on a card. Getting kids interested in collecting doesn’t have to be expensive and not everyone at shows are looking for prewar.

[bbcard1]

Originally Posted by ezez420

I don’t remember Friday ever being free.

In all due respect wanting to get in early with no cost and the same access to the dealers in the room is kind of a bit cheap. Lucky for you Ryan is a nice guy. One thing if your friend has a pass for you but “expecting” is nervy and cheap. Just like your comment of promoter “gouging”.


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You don't think $25 is too much for admission to a card show? It's traditionally been $5, Net54 members free. You just had to print out the post on the board. I do think I paid $5 the last time. Tickets to the National are $22 on-site. You will receive freebies from Topps, Pannini, Fleer, and lots of other companies. I got a free grading coupon (same day) last time I went to the national. You'll get nothing special at Chantilly. I think gouging is completely the correct term. I also do appreciate Ryan's kind offer and I am going to take him up on it. Honestly, I'm looking for two cards at the show...a 1952 Bowman Hodges and a Garver in mid grade. I could probably get those for around what they are charging for Friday admission.

[Bobbycee]

Originally Posted by ezez420

I don’t remember Friday ever being free.

In all due respect wanting to get in early with no cost and the same access to the dealers in the room is kind of a bit cheap. Lucky for you Ryan is a nice guy. One thing if your friend has a pass for you but “expecting” is nervy and cheap. Just like your comment of promoter “gouging”.


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what the hell got in your Cheerios this morning? "All due respect", you sound like a douche.

[philo98]

I was at the last October show. Friday was extremely busy whereas Sunday I would call dead. Saturday morning was busy but in the afternoon it slowed down. I wasn’t there late on Sunday but I heard a number of dealers packed up really early. I won’t be attending this show and will just hold off for the National. The last Chantilly show I found to be run quite well especially with the restrictions in place. It was great to network but I found prices too high. Didn’t see many deals at all.

[ezez420]

Originally Posted by Bobbycee

what the hell got in your Cheerios this morning? "All due respect", you sound like a douche.

I don’t want to insult the guy but given the market and the huge demand and capacity limits in place they really don’t have to give things for free. Really the OP is being cheap not the promoter. Saying the promoter is gouging people doesn’t put the OP in a good light.

Costs have gone up substantially for these larger shows so we all should be happy they are happening. People need to get the dynamics before spouting off.


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[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by ezez420

I don’t want to insult the guy but given the market and the huge demand and capacity limits in place they really don’t have to give things for free. Really the OP is being cheap not the promoter. Saying the promoter is gouging people doesn’t put the OP in a good light.

Costs have gone up substantially for these larger shows so we all should be happy they are happening. People need to get the dynamics before spouting off.


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+1

[tschock]

Price gouging? Seriously? So you are privy to the promoter's books or the restrictions they might be under?

One big thing to consider: The capacity limitation for this show is 1000. What was the previous capacity limitation? Assuming previously 2000, they would have needed to double the previous entry price to have the same ticket income this time. If the previous limit was 5000, then the ticket income to the promoter (assuming all tickets sold) is effectively the same this time as it was for previous shows.

To put it as simple case, how is it price gouging if you have 1000 tickets available at $25 each or 5000 tickets available at $5 each? I'm not saying whether this is the case or not, just that you don't have enough facts to make that claim.

[glynparson]

Originally Posted by bbcard1

I just noticed that the Friday day admission for CSA in Chantilly VA/Dulles shows is $25 from 2 - 5. I normally go up n Fridays and because it is a 400-mile round trip, I prefer to get in and get back on the road before it's too late.

Fridays have traditionally been free admission.

It's a perfectly fine show, but it's not like there are freebies and this isn't the 1980s so there are no particular bargains to be found when the doors open...any hug bargains were scooped up by the show dealers hours before the doors open.

I get COVID and everything, but it seems a lot to pay just in order to spend money.

If you don’t like capitalism move. It shocks me how many people
Truly display this entitled attitude of I deserve a card at a price I deem fair or I deserve entrance to the show cheap cause I just want to look or some similar sentiment. Demand for things are up and supply is down so that means prices go up that’s how capitalism works. Don’t like it stay home you won’t be missed in this hot market.

[bbcard1]

Originally Posted by glynparson

If you don’t like capitalism move. It shocks me how many people
Truly display this entitled attitude of I deserve a card at a price I deem fair or I deserve entrance to the show cheap cause I just want to look or some similar sentiment. Demand for things are up and supply is down so that means prices go up that’s how capitalism works. Don’t like it stay home you won’t be missed in this hot market.

You are projecting quite a lot on me for someone who simply objects to pricing something that has been one thing for years and was multiplied five times for no apparent reason. I could spend the same amount of money and probably get better value by simply ordering online from my desk. I normally spend $500 or more with dealers when I go to a show. That would be missed, especially if you multiply it by a number of people who share my view. Maybe not so much to the guys selling 2021 wax, but for the people who fill out sets and spend money at the tables that are just your bread and butter dealers.

[Johnny630]

It’s amazing how many people bitch, brining up past prices, the present is now, shit get over and Adapt, sick of the constant crying if you don’t want to pay don’t go, damn. Nobody has to go to this show if $25 has you that bent out of shape don’t go. You Don’t Dictate Rules Because You’re Cheap, Remember That. Again We are talking $25 Friggin Dollars BFD !

I hope this continues, $25 entrance on Friday, keep the dollar box dumpster diving cheap people off the floor.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

I hope this continues, $25 entrance on Friday, keep the dollar box dumpster diving cheap people off the floor.

But then what will I do for customers?

[bbcard1]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

But then what will I do for customers?

I've decided to pass on going to the show on principle and will comment no further. I hope those who go have a nice time.

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

But then what will I do for customers?

Aren’t you a Auction House ?