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Old 03-04-2021, 09:25 PM
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prices on goudey ruths are CRAYCRAY!!!!!! check out this ruth probstein is peddling...already up to $9500.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-Goudey...YAAOSwIEFgPnNX

Sure looks suspicious towards the left of babes head...erasure marks??
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Those borders have been abused more than Alsace-Lorraine.
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Centering is off obviously not not a bad looking 3. Probably ends 20k+. Ruth is hot, prices are still low compared to Jackie, Mays and others.

I picked up the yellow, green, and red last year. Shattered a vcp record each time. They all look like steals now. And are still undervalued.
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Centering is off obviously not not a bad looking 3. Probably ends 20k+. Ruth is hot, prices are still low compared to Jackie, Mays and others.

I picked up the yellow, green, and red last year. Shattered a vcp record each time. They all look like steals now. And are still undervalued.
Agreed. I remember when I went to a 12k bid on that 4.5 yellow that you wound up winning— I made a rare mistake hewing far too close to past sales data, and should have bid way more. Made sure not to err the same way when the next one I liked came into the crosshairs.

These four Ruth cards are such classics and tend to stay in collections as beloved centerpieces. Their popularity with collectors and investors alike is just off the charts. They've increased in price yet I agree still could go much higher. And boy is that red #149 a beast to find with some eye appeal. Hence why I took my lumps bidding to win the 4 at Heritage last week.
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There’s a 3 right now in the BST. I nearly choked when I saw the asking price of $30k.
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Centering is off obviously not not a bad looking 3. Probably ends 20k+. Ruth is hot, prices are still low compared to Jackie, Mays and others.

I picked up the yellow, green, and red last year. Shattered a vcp record each time. They all look like steals now. And are still undervalued.

Regret selling the ones I had last year. Agree with the comments of the Goudeys being undervalued especially compared to others. Much lower pops, iconic set and not to mention the GOAT. Those three things alone should put these 5x10 higher than any mantle, Robinson, mays, Cobb. He’s the jordan of baseball and should command huge premiums over others.


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$20,500 + tax/fees was the hammer
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Pete - good sleuth work. I see it.

Why did it get a 3?
Card looks sharp (aside from the, ya know, surface distraction).

I’m shocked at how expensive these things have gotten.
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I almost choked when I saw BST listings as well...kills me I sold my yellow ruth vg-ex a few years ago for less than 3k.

And it seems we all agree that goudey ruth prices are cray cray although some seem to believe they are still underpriced?

DOES ANYONE THINK THIS CARD I POSTED LOOKS LIKE IT HAS HAD ERASURE ON LEFT TOP OF CARD IN THE RED...DAMMIT!!!!
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I agree it looks like something was erased. I have 2 1939 Play Ball cards that had writing on the borders that was erased and they both got number grades from SGC. I thought erasures were supposed to get an A grade only. My Arky Vaughan got a 1.5 and my Charlie Keller got a 2. Here is a scan of the Vaughan.
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I very much wanted a low grade Goudey Ruth. This is the only one that I can afford now

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Babe-Ruth-N...IAAOSwK2Re-MWK
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This recent sale amazes me:

https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=75530

$90,000 for a mid-grade (a really nice one, to be sure) Goudey Ruth! And it's in REA, so you know the sale is legit.

I did some digging and found the most recent previous sale of this exact card was for $10,200 in Heritage in Feb. 2018.

Amazing!!!!!!!!
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I agree it looks like something was erased. I have 2 1939 Play Ball cards that had writing on the borders that was erased and they both got number grades from SGC. I thought erasures were supposed to get an A grade only. My Arky Vaughan got a 1.5 and my Charlie Keller got a 2. Here is a scan of the Vaughan.
No, erasures are not a deal-breaker. I submitted a nice Dizzy Dean '34 Goudey last year to SGC, and it got a 3 despite a front corner pencil mark that was erased. It likely cost me a full grade though.
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I almost choked when I saw BST listings as well...kills me I sold my yellow ruth vg-ex a few years ago for less than 3k.

And it seems we all agree that goudey ruth prices are cray cray although some seem to believe they are still underpriced?

DOES ANYONE THINK THIS CARD I POSTED LOOKS LIKE IT HAS HAD ERASURE ON LEFT TOP OF CARD IN THE RED...DAMMIT!!!!
They are underpriced. Bump this thread in 6 months. 30k for a dead centered red PSA 3 will sound like a bargain.
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They are underpriced. Bump this thread in 6 months. 30k for a dead centered red PSA 3 will sound like a bargain.
Sounds like you should pull the trigger then
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I almost choked when I saw BST listings as well...kills me I sold my yellow ruth vg-ex a few years ago for less than 3k.

And it seems we all agree that goudey ruth prices are cray cray although some seem to believe they are still underpriced?

DOES ANYONE THINK THIS CARD I POSTED LOOKS LIKE IT HAS HAD ERASURE ON LEFT TOP OF CARD IN THE RED...DAMMIT!!!!
I honestly don't see any erasing. I only see soaking in bleach solution and batwings due to the razor trimming and undersized borders.
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I honestly don't see any erasing. I only see soaking in bleach solution and batwings due to the razor trimming and undersized borders.
messing with the contrast, etc...I sure believe I see erasure/remnants from writing!
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A red psa 4 ends tommorrow with pwcc will be interesting to see where it closes. Two crappy 4s just did over 27k at goldin.


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A red psa 4 ends tommorrow with pwcc will be interesting to see where it closes. Two crappy 4s just did over 27k at goldin.


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I know it's after the fact, but I predicted that this one would be the first Goudey Ruth 3 to ever top $20,000. If there are no hidden creases, that card just isn't a 3 . . . just no way.

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I know it's after the fact, but I predicted that this one would be the first Goudey Ruth 3 to ever top $20,000. If there are no hidden creases, that card just isn't a 3 . . . just no way.
I predicted the same when this thread started. After last night's sale I'm sure the buyer is pleased with what he paid for this.

The 144 does seem like a relative bargain as mentioned above. My favorite of the 4 by far. Just such an iconic image, even if a few extra were produced. Maybe the same type of collectors paying big premiums for t206 portraits prefer the red and yellow to the 144 and green Ruths.
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A PSA 2 #144 (granted, a criminally undergraded 2) is currently at $25,000 with two days to go:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-Goudey...edirect=mobile

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A PSA 2 #144 (granted, a criminally underhanded 2) is currently at $25,000 with two days to go:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-Goudey...edirect=mobile
No comment. And I hope that speaks volumes...
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A PSA 2 #144 (granted, a criminally undergraded 2) is currently at $25,000 with two days to go:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-Goudey...edirect=mobile
Sold tonight for $42,699.
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Why do people still treat PWCC results as if they're real?
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