Shoeless Joe in the HOF...and his cards?

[sgbernard]

Not sure if people have seen this, but MLB just clarified that bans on players end with their death. The specific implication, as discussed in this article, is that dead, banned players may now be eligible for the HOF, which includes those Black Sox like Joe Jackson:

Link to article https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...banned-players

My question is, what does this do to Shoeless Joe's cards' value? His story and him NOT being in the HOF has, I think, helped make his cards some of the more valuable of any pre-war player. If he's another top tier HOFer, then do his cards go down, does it change anything?

Would love to see some Shoeless Joe cards while we're at it!

[Snapolit1]

It's a moot point . . .he will not be elected into the HOF.

[triwak]

Steve's certainty notwithstanding, I think this is a very interesting question. Unfortunately, I do not have any career cards of Jackson, as my focus is HOFers only. I sincerely hope that changes!! Thanks for posting.

[packs]

If MLB knows the rules around the ban I'm sure the HOF does too. Don't see how it changes things for anyone banned. The guilty are not made innocent in death.

[wondo]

Originally Posted by packs

If MLB knows the rules around the ban I'm sure the HOF does too. Don't see how it changes things for anyone banned. The guilty are not made innocent in death.

..............except for Aaron Hernandez.................

[Snapolit1]

Always has been and will be interest in his cards. Frankly I thought all the Black Sox stuff would go through the roof on the 100th anniversary in 2019 and I didn't notice that happening.

[BeanTown]

Originally Posted by packs

If MLB knows the rules around the ban I'm sure the HOF does too. Don't see how it changes things for anyone banned. The guilty are not made innocent in death.

Maybe the people who said he is guilty, are guilty. Corruption goes both ways and there was a lot of pressure for those people who had a say in his guilt. What were Joe stats again in the series?

[packs]

Originally Posted by BeanTown

Maybe the people who said he is guilty, are guilty. Corruption goes both ways and there was a lot of pressure for those people who had a say in his guilt. What were Joe stats again in the series?

This is a pragmatic issue. If you were banned for something you did in life, dying doesn't erase what you did in life.

[phikappapsi]

I think the value of his cards is already set. The will likely only ever go up; whether because he ends up in the Hall, or doesn't - either can/will be a driver of value (seems oxymoronic - but I feel it's true).

But the real value in his cards is rarity. There just weren't that many issues of him in his playing days. and, I think because of the scandal, relatively few were treasured by collectors in the 20's 30's, 40's 50's the way that Cobb, Ruth, Young, etc. were.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by phikappapsi

I think the value of his cards is already set. The will likely only ever go up; whether because he ends up in the Hall, or doesn't - either can/will be a driver of value (seems oxymoronic - but I feel it's true).

But the real value in his cards is rarity. There just weren't that many issues of him in his playing days. and, I think because of the scandal, relatively few were treasured by collectors in the 20's 30's, 40's 50's the way that Cobb, Ruth, Young, etc. were.

Exactly!