Matty Portrait SGC 5 for $4k+

[Throttlesteer]

Am I losing my mind, or did this just happen? The insanity continues.

[Rhotchkiss]

How about the Tinker Hands on knees PSA 6.5 that just went for $4702 (last sale was 7/5/17 for $1778)? All the t206’s in pwcc are nuts tonight.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

it's only a matter of time before this shilling has a massive negative impact on the hobby

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

it's only a matter of time before this shilling has a massive negative impact on the hobby

agreed..silly to compare this to stock prices........how much were clemente 1955 psa 7 rookies 'going' for last year...and a slew of others than magically declined in value even after the stock market went up

Shill...

[Leon]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

agreed..silly to compare this to stock prices........how much were clemente 1955 psa 7 rookies 'going' for last year...and a slew of others than magically declined in value even after the stock market went up

Shill...

How come you and Scott say it was a shill when, in post 4, Tony says there are lesser looking examples that only went for a little less? This was not an extraordinarily high price with respect to those? Unless there is more to it, I think ya'll are reckless in this particular case. NO doubt there are consignors or friends and family that shill on ebay (and in AH's auctions) but I would be careful about accusing with no corroborating evidence.

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by Leon

How come you and Scott say it was a shill when, in post 4, Tony says there are lesser looking examples that only went for a little less? This was not an extraordinarily high price with respect to those? Unless there is more to it, I think ya'll are reckless in this particular case. NO doubt there are consignors or friends and family that shill on ebay (and in AH's auctions) but I would be careful about accusing with no corroborating evidence.

Leon- I hope you are right as I'm going after a 'big dog' tonight.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

My comment was more in general, but was irresponsible since it was made in a thread about a specific item.

That being said the two bidders with the most individual bids on the Matty have 52% and 72% of all of their bids with PWCC. Coupled with the fact that these two bidders inched the price up in tandem does cause one (me anyway) concern.

However this is not a knock on Brent, as I am currently pondering how to prevent this kind of thing in my own online auction

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Leon

How come you and Scott say it was a shill when, in post 4, Tony says there are lesser looking examples that only went for a little less? This was not an extraordinarily high price with respect to those? Unless there is more to it, I think ya'll are reckless in this particular case. NO doubt there are consignors or friends and family that shill on ebay (and in AH's auctions) but I would be careful about accusing with no corroborating evidence.

I also am talking generally as well. Not saying for this particular item...also not saying it was on the 1955 clemente...just saying there is history of cards spiking out of nowhere where it may not be as organic as we would like....not saying it happened in this case....also was a reaction when someone was comparing the sales with recent stock prices...so was more of take on not comparing stocks with cards in this genre at this time until there is much more data points and time..

[3-2-count]

Originally Posted by Throttlesteer

Am I losing my mind, or did this just happen? The insanity continues.

The last two Psa 5 Matty portraits which have sold within the last 6 months ended at $3600 and $3471.

The Sgc 5 which ended tonight @ $4200 was far superior in eye appeal to both of those examples. I'm not surprised!

[NotVader]

Originally Posted by Throttlesteer

Am I losing my mind, or did this just happen? The insanity continues.

Insanity ?

Is it insane apple stock APL is up 800% since I bought it?

Gold is up up up

T206 cards are a commodity!

CV

[griffon512]

without getting into whether the percentage increases are too high, there is a general shift in the market to eye appeal over grade. the price of the sgc 5 mathewson reflects that.

[frankbmd]

It’s gotta be the flip.