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Old 10-15-2015, 07:54 AM
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Default 1974 topps psa mike schmidt psa 10

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Old 10-15-2015, 08:11 AM
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Because he is the greatest player ever. PSA is the most amazing company ever and they say the card is perfect. Plus it was auctioned off by a very reputable company that does not allow any wrongdoing in their auctions. So with all that going for it how couldn't a $10 card bring $7600.
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Old 10-15-2015, 08:25 AM
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Because he is the greatest player ever. PSA is the most amazing company ever and they say the card is perfect. Plus it was auctioned off by a very reputable company that does not allow any wrongdoing in their auctions. So with all that going for it how couldn't a $10 card bring $7600.
There are PSA 10 HOF collectors out there...not sure if it was bidding war or not but look at the 1975 Yount and Brett etc in PSA 10..

Say what you want but PWCC is better to buy from than nobodys..nobodys are more likely to shill The nobody can make 2 accounts and buy the card from the other then cancel the purchase. The 1000s of poeple that consign to pwcc dont have that relationship with PWCC. If you win your own card with PWCC its not going to be canceled you will end up costing you 10-15%...but a nobody gets charged zero.......i worry more about non auction houses on ebay then the probsteins of the world

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Old 10-15-2015, 08:28 AM
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I guess the question is, why $30 for standard shipping? Crazy...
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Old 10-15-2015, 08:26 AM
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Because he is the greatest player ever. PSA is the most amazing company ever and they say the card is perfect. Plus it was auctioned off by a very reputable company that does not allow any wrongdoing in their auctions. So with all that going for it how couldn't a $10 card bring $7600.
man give me all of your mint 1974 schmidts for 10 dollar a piece since thats all they are worth

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Old 10-15-2015, 08:32 AM
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74 Schmidt is a very big card for collectors of that era. It is his first solo card, his RC having been a multi-face. What's more, it is notoriously condition sensitive; few example have standout eye appeal due to tilt and various PD issues.

From the demand end, you have a HOF player with a passionate fan base, set builders for whom it is a key card in the 74T set, and single card collectors like myself for example, all of whom would love a great example. The Registry competition among both Schmidt and 74T collectors alone would be sufficient to drive up the price.

That said, due to the PD on this particular card, I would never agree with the 10 designation it was given. I would bet that particular card comes back in a lower grade 9 of 10 times it is submitted raw-- even though 10s by definition do allow for a small print defect that does not detract from eye appeal. I think the PD in this case does affect the appeal, so it is admittedly a subjective call. For me, I love the 74 Schmidt card, but this would have been a case IMO of buying the sticker.
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74 Schmidt is a very big card for collectors of that era. It is his first solo card, his RC having been a multi-face. What's more, it is notoriously condition sensitive; few example have standout eye appeal due to tilt and various PD issues.

From the demand end, you have a HOF player with a passionate fan base, set builders for whom it is a key card in the 74T set, and single card collectors like myself for example, all of whom would love a great example. The Registry competition among both Schmidt and 74T collectors alone would be sufficient to drive up the price.

That said, due to the PD on this particular card, I would never agree with the 10 designation it was given. I would bet that particular card comes back in a lower grade 9 of 10 times it is submitted raw-- even though 10s by definition do allow for a small print defect that does not detract from eye appeal. I think the PD in this case does affect the appeal, so it is admittedly a subjective call. For me, I love the 74 Schmidt card, but this would have been a case IMO of buying the sticker.
You can say buy the card not the holder but if you ended up having this card 3 months from now and you got it for free...you wouldnt sell it to me for $3000 since its really a PSA 9 in your opinion.....basically everyone says buy the card not the holder...but nobody sells the card, not the holder.....everyone sells the holder not the card......

Thus my new expression is Sell the Holder not the card, until i see nobody doing that..

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I wouldn't ever end up with a card that doesn't match or exceed the grade because I don't buy ugly cards for my collection. I'd buy a high end 10 that was truly perfect and fit the grade, and then sell it faster and for a much bigger number than the low end 10 would fetch, were that my game.

And yes, if you buy the card you will always do well. It can bump or command a premium over its grade. So one can sell the card, though I do agree 100% the holder is sold all the time as well, even when the card inside doesn't match up with the holder. If you want to just buy stickers, go for yours. Long as a collector is happy with their card.

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Old 10-15-2015, 08:39 AM
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man give me all of your mint 1974 schmidts for 10 dollar a piece since thats all they are worth
In all seriousness I would never pay more than $10 for that exact card to be in my collection. I don't believe in the magic plastic holders but understand there are several that do. I hope they don't get too offended when I laugh really hard at their purchases just like I don't get offended when they laugh really hard at my ungraded worthless beater collection.
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In all seriousness I would never pay more than $10 for that exact card to be in my collection. I don't believe in the magic plastic holders but understand there are several that do. I hope they don't get too offended when I laugh really hard at their purchases just like I don't get offended when they laugh really hard at my ungraded worthless beater collection.
right understood.....when not paying much you really cant lose much so i dont disagree with your buying methods....when i buy high dollar cards though i do care about what others are looking to buy...

i hate advertising for example on the internet but if thats where the customers go to look to use my services..than i have to do what the people value...

Its funny when you are kid you are told to not care what others think....but when you are looking to sell a card at what you think is market price...then you absolutely care what others think....

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What MattyC said, and that card has a total population of 5 in PSA 10 out of over 2,000 graded, including 206 PSA 9s. There are collectors out there, myself NOT included, who are willing to pay big money because of the scarcity of the grade.

Just look at the 86 Fleer basketball Johnny Moore, or I believe it's the 1986 Topps Ryne Sandberg for examples.
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