Not the best day for Cardinals fans.......

[Brian Van Horn]

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/13...stros-database

[kmac32]

Everybody knows the Crapinals cheat. How else would they get to the post season so many times in the last few years? :-)

[Howe’s Hunter]

wouldn't you think we would steal from someone in our own division, or better yet, a club that wins?

[ALR-bishop]

Luhnow, the Astros GM, was a Cardinal front office guy who helped them build one of the best minor league systems in baseball during a time when they quit trading prospects for rental players. He was not all that popular but very successful. In 2011 he took his system to Houston and the results there are starting to pay off. My hope is that it will be a grudge deal with someone not high up in the organization, but time will tell.

[kmac32]

maybe the Crapinals were hacking the Astros system so they could learn how to lose with humility instead of being the cocky team that they currently are? LOL

[ALR-bishop]

It is interesting the government seems fixated again with fixing all that is wrong with baseball while their own systems are apparently being hacked on a massive scale. Maybe the Cardinals did that too

[CurtisFlood]

Originally Posted by kmac32

maybe the Crapinals were hacking the Astros system so they could learn how to lose with humility instead of being the cocky team that they currently are? LOL

Typical California smack talker.

[Beatles Guy]

Originally Posted by kmac32

maybe the Crapinals were hacking the Astros system so they could learn how to lose with humility instead of being the cocky team that they currently are? LOL

Here I was hoping to have some intelligent conversation about this and get some insight from other baseball fans and I get what resembles a Facebook pissing match.

As for the Cardinals, whoever did it should be fired, even if it goes all the way to the top. There is no excuse for that behavior. I am as big a Cardinal fan there is, but I recognize right from wrong.

Winning breeds contempt, I get that. I hated the Yankees of the 90's. But now, as I've gotten older, I have recognized my flawed thinking in respect to those teams.

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Luhnow, the Astros GM, was a Cardinal front office guy who helped them build one of the best minor league systems in baseball during a time when they quit trading prospects for rental players. He was not all that popular but very successful. In 2011 he took his system to Houston and the results there are starting to pay off. My hope is that it will be a grudge deal with someone not high up in the organization, but time will tell.

Spot on


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[Joshchisox08]

Originally Posted by StuckInOmaha

wouldn't you think we would steal from someone in our own division, or better yet, a club that wins?

Exactly Ed !!! I'm a White Sox fan but if I have to root for a National League team (usually do cause Sox suck) it's St. Louis.

Why the hell would the be stealing info from an American League team ?? This has personal written all over it.

[peterose4hof]

Interesting article about the potential punishments.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/specu...al-punishment/

[CurtisFlood]

Originally Posted by kmac32

Everybody knows the Crapinals cheat. How else would they get to the post season so many times in the last few years? :-)

Some great insight here. Not really.

[sreader3]

Originally Posted by CurtisFlood

Some great insight here. Not really.

That's fine. Why don't you justify the cyber crime Mr. Cardinal?

[kmac32]

Originally Posted by sreader3

That's fine. Why don't you justify the cyber crime Mr. Cardinal?

love it. LOL

[CurtisFlood]

Originally Posted by sreader3

That's fine. Why don't you justify the cyber crime Mr. Cardinal?

Because I don't generally judge a "crime" until it is proven. You obviously have a closed mind and have no intent of letting the individuals or whoever is involved be presumed innocent until proven guilty. I'm not Mr. Cardinal either Mr. whoever you are.

[sreader3]

Originally Posted by CurtisFlood

Because I don't generally judge a "crime" until it is proven. You obviously have a closed mind and have no intent of letting the individuals or whoever is involved be presumed innocent until proven guilty. I'm not Mr. Cardinal either Mr. whoever you are.

Okay will you issue a formal apology on Net54 when the Cards settle or are convicted?

"New York Times: The Federal Bureau of Investigation and U.S. federal prosecutors are investigating the St. Louis Cardinals baseball team for hacking into the computers of the Houston Astros to steal closely guarded information about player personnel, The New York Times reported on Tuesday.

Compromised information includes internal discussions about trades, proprietary statistics and scouting reports, the Times reported, citing law enforcement officials.

There is evidence that officials of the Cardinals, who won the 2006 and 2011 World Series and are one of the sport's most respected franchises, broke into a network of special databases, the report said."

Look, I used to like the Cards and I don't even really like NYT but you gotta face facts.

"Mr. Whoever You Are." -- Yeah, I'm just another guy in the peanut gallery. Proceed.