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Old 06-27-2013, 07:04 AM
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Default How Rare Is This 1909 San Francisco Seals Postcard?

how rare is this card? i picked this one up to resale, the seller stated it is a 1 of 4 known.. is this true?



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Old 06-27-2013, 07:10 AM
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/San-Francisc...#ht_368wt_1400


http://www.ebay.com/itm/121129268899...ht_1172wt_1429
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Old 06-27-2013, 10:19 AM
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These two auctions are for the same postcard (note the staining on the back).

I had one up on ebay as a BIN but removed it when I saw these two auctions, before realizing it was the same card, I doubted the authenticity. Both sellers did a lousy job presenting the card, the first auction scanning in B&W and the second using a camera image. In both cases the image appears darker and the detail of the players faces are blacked out, also the focus isn't sharp. Another Net54 member was able to obtain a clean scan of the card and after reviewing that image I was comfortable with the card being genuine.

As for rarity I think Rhys is spot on.

I think I first saw this postcard in Dick Dobbins book and really thought it was spectacular.
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Old 06-27-2013, 07:12 AM
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Probably close to as rare as the seller says, though I am not sure. I was watching it and didn't think it was a steal. Be careful about buying something then immediately posting on the front page saying you bought it for resale. Some members will think you are trying to sell it on the front page. (Paul posted as I was....pretty good profit for 3 weeks)


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-Antique...p2047675.l2557



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Old 06-27-2013, 07:31 AM
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Leon,

Thanks fo rthe heads up on the posting soon after a buy.. i know the proper board to sell it on..

the ones that sold on REA and Oldjudge.com sole for $1400 and $1700.. do you think this one has the room to sell that high?

also, do you think an SGC grade would help it sell for more?
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Old 06-27-2013, 11:07 AM
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[QUOTE=Leon;1151481]Probably close to as rare as the seller says, though I am not sure. I was watching it and didn't think it was a steal. Be careful about buying something then immediately posting on the front page saying you bought it for resale. Some members will think you are trying to sell it on the front page. (Paul posted as I was....pretty good profit for 3 weeks)


1st buyer paid $674, then sold for $788, net $114, but after Ebay and Paypal take their chunks, I'd think it's about a $50 profit. So yes nice, but I think they'd of done better sending it to an Auction House. But yes their too will be the fees, but I'd think would have maximized the 1st sellers profits. Seller 2 now has the decision now of whichauction house and I don't think he's going to see profits in 2 weeks like he stated. Gonna have to wait it out 3-4-6 months, for anywhere from breaking even to couple hundred bucks profit.
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Old 06-27-2013, 07:52 AM
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how rare is this card? i picked this one up to resale, the seller stated it is a 1 of 4 known.. is this true?



Hi,

Didn't you recently post on here that you needed money because your wife broke her wrist and out of work for 6 weeks?? I know we made a deal a few weeks back and all went well, but this sounds odd
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Old 06-27-2013, 08:02 AM
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Hi,

Didn't you recently post on here that you needed money because your wife broke her wrist and out of work for 6 weeks?? I know we made a deal a few weeks back and all went well, but this sounds odd
not odd at all.. if i can make a few hundred on this in a week or 2 at the most.. as stated above i bought it to resale.

my wife is currently not working.. i work full time and flip cards on the side for extra income..
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Definitely more than 4 known, quite a few have popped up in the last couple years. Still a tough and cool pc though.
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Old 06-27-2013, 08:49 AM
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There was another one of these on eBay not too long ago that was postally used. Seems to be more than 4 known.
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There was another on ebay 3 weeks ago (not postally used) that was poorly described and it went for less than 1000. I have seen more than 4 on ebay in the last 5-6 years. My guess would be 10-15 are probably circulating in the hobby and probably a few more in private collections etc. Still rare and desirable, but absolutely more common than 4 in the World.

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Old 06-27-2013, 11:09 AM
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not odd at all.. if i can make a few hundred on this in a week or 2 at the most.. as stated above i bought it to resale.

my wife is currently not working.. i work full time and flip cards on the side for extra income..
Just curious on how you think it will only take a week or 2? Unless you are contacted by someone on here wanting it, it's gonna take more than a few weeks to see a profit, but good luck, u may hit small jackpot down the road!
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Old 06-27-2013, 11:22 AM
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Just curious on how you think it will only take a week or 2? Unless you are contacted by someone on here wanting it, it's gonna take more than a few weeks to see a profit, but good luck, u may hit small jackpot down the road!
Of course i would not mind selling it here.. but i planned on putting it back on ebay with a BIN/OBO. Also, a better title on the auction.
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Old 06-27-2013, 11:26 AM
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i was looking at the above 2 auctions.. i do not see the connection. the buyer of the one that ended on 06/05 is not the seller of the one from 06/26 (the feedback number does not match)
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