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Old 01-24-2012, 02:38 PM
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Default O/T, Prince Fielder to Tigers for 9 year deal

O/T, Prince Fielder to Tigers for 9 year deal, 214 million.

Great News for Detroit.

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Too much IMO, anything over 5 years was too long. Great for the short term though. Him and Cabrera, plus that pitching staff? They look dangerous in the short run.
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If you want 9 nine years worth better get him a treadmill.
Congrats to the Tiger fans, your team just got better!
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Old 01-24-2012, 02:47 PM
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Of course it is to long but he might help with a couple of World Series runs.

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Of course it is to long but he might help with a couple of World Series runs.

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After losing Victor Martinez, we're generally ecstatic in Detroit, but as to the long term view, Joe is of course correct--the old man's last, even half-way decent year came when he was 33. After that, he was too fat to get around on any fastball above the belt (and what big fat guy was effective past 35, other than that guy who started out pitching for Boston, whose PSA 7 M rookie just sold for 200K?)! One problem we see here is that Cabrera is the better fielding first baseman, and we don't really think Miguel can play 3rd effectively. Why shouldn't the slugging fat guy DH, even though he is younger???

Happy days are here again, to all of us Tiger fans in any event!

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Can't see that with his body type his good for a long term contract.

Cecil Fielder listed as 6'3" and 230pds
ie his dad and his playing days.
Within 8 years after Cecil's big breakout year of 1990
51 HR - 134 RBI season in 1990
6 years later - 39 HR - 117 RBIs
8 years he was hitting 13 HR - 61 RBI in 1997
gone 9 years after best sesson. 13 total

Prince Fielder listed as 5'11" and 275pds
50 HR - 119 RBI in 2007
4 years later - 38 HR - 120 RBIs
7 years to date.

So by the numbers his dad was as good if not a little player. But at the same point in both carriers (4 years after best sesson) Cecil only lasted 2 more year. And they give Prince 9 year contract?????
Hope for him its all alot of signing bonus and not so much backend deal for the 2nd half of the contract term.
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They're going to need a bigger dugout.
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$214 million....chump change.
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Can't see that with his body type his good for a long term contract.

Cecil Fielder listed as 6'3" and 230pds
ie his dad and his playing days.
Within 8 years after Cecil's big breakout year of 1990
51 HR - 134 RBI season in 1990
6 years later - 39 HR - 117 RBIs
8 years he was hitting 13 HR - 61 RBI in 1997
gone 9 years after best sesson. 13 total

Prince Fielder listed as 5'11" and 275pds
50 HR - 119 RBI in 2007
4 years later - 38 HR - 120 RBIs
7 years to date.

So by the numbers his dad was as good if not a little player. But at the same point in both carriers (4 years after best sesson) Cecil only lasted 2 more year. And they give Prince 9 year contract?????
Hope for him its all alot of signing bonus and not so much backend deal for the 2nd half of the contract term.
I agree with the body type comparison, but in terms of who is/was the better player your incorrect. Prince is a much better hitter. .282 vs .255 lifetime average is not even close. Also Prince only needs one more season to tie his dads mark of over 100 RBI seasons, he'll do that easily in each of the the next 4 years, cruising right by him. Also, comparing their walks to K's ratio, not even close. Prince is a monster! His Big Daddy had a few good power # seasons, but not close to the hitter the lil guy is.

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Paul,
Most likely the first time in a long time Prince has been referrred to as "the 'lil guy."
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Did anyone of you know that Price Fielder is a vegetarian?

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Can't see that with his body type his good for a long term contract.

Cecil Fielder listed as 6'3" and 230pds
ie his dad and his playing days.
Within 8 years after Cecil's big breakout year of 1990
51 HR - 134 RBI season in 1990
6 years later - 39 HR - 117 RBIs
8 years he was hitting 13 HR - 61 RBI in 1997
gone 9 years after best sesson. 13 total

Prince Fielder listed as 5'11" and 275pds
50 HR - 119 RBI in 2007
4 years later - 38 HR - 120 RBIs
7 years to date.

So by the numbers his dad was as good if not a little player. But at the same point in both carriers (4 years after best sesson) Cecil only lasted 2 more year. And they give Prince 9 year contract?????
Hope for him its all alot of signing bonus and not so much backend deal for the 2nd half of the contract term.
The above comparison leaves out one major point -- Cecil was 27 when he had the breakout year you cite -- Prince was 23. A 27 year old player would be expected to break down four years sooner than a 23 year old.
That being said, can't see the Tigers getting value for the full nine years, but for the next five or six maybe he could be a force.

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With Cabrera, and now Fielder, they certainly have increased their team BMI.
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