1911-16 T216 (Mino) - "thin stock" myth

[Leon]

The T216 series is one of my favorite sets even though there is much information we still have to learn about it. That being said there was a recent auction where a T216 Mino Cigarette card was listed as having a gloss-less front and thin paper stock. I would like to know if anyone on the board has ever personally seen/held a thin stock Mino? Also, though I think a card without gloss could have just had the gloss coating process skipped, same question there. Anyone seen/held one without gloss? I asked the person who wrote the auction description where he got the info and he said the Krause SCD. I asked Bob L (hi Bob) about it and I believe he said something to the effect (correct me if I am wrong Bob) that he doesn't remember where the information came from but didn't I see the write up in said auction, sort of corroborating it? The proverbial cat could be chasing his tail here . Personally I have not seen any thin ones (always thought it a hobby myth but I have been wrong before) and haven't noticed non-glossy ones. With the information currently available I feel the "thin" type Mino should be taken out of the book until one is confirmed. I realize there are similar situations with several other cards and card sets but this thread is about T216. regards

[gabrinus]

I am not an expert on Minos by a long shot----I do own roughly 25 or so----but I have not noticed different types either. The "thin" description puzzled me as well.

[prewarsports]

I dont have anything to add on this subject, but I wanted to throw this out there. How in the hell is that Gibson a 3? Looks like a 5 on a bad day.

[fkw]

The Kottons with the larger scroll on back are thin and the VE backs are thin, but never seen a thin Mino either.

Lipsets books actually mentions that Minos havent been found in thin (yet), and that VE havent been found in anything but thin.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by fkw

The Kottons with the larger scroll on back are thin and the VE backs are thin, but never seen a thin Mino either.

Lipsets books actually mentions that Minos havent been found in thin (yet), and that VE havent been found in anything but thin.

Hopefully the SCD will change their description. My experience, and everyone else's I know of, is the same as yours Frank. Minos are on thicker stock....there might have been an anomaly where gloss wasn't put onto one or some but they should have gloss. The VE's are all on thin stock as well as the larger lettered Kotton's. I call those type 3's. All of the rest of the T216s are on thick stock as other series of cards are. It has been a bit of a a head shaker every time I see the descriptions stating otherwise. regards

[wonkaticket]

I've only handeld and seen a few in my collecting days, but I have never noticed a thin stock...

Leon where do you think this came from back in the day?

Cheers,

John