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Old 03-28-2013, 11:48 PM
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Default fake m101-5 Wheat gets by PSA

I was unaware PSA would knowingly holder a trimmed card and mark it as such, but they still blew it, for the card is not authentic:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1916-M101-5-...item1c316166f9

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Default Grading

I think grading companies do the best they can for what it is. I only send in cards for grading that I want to sell. Half the time they mess up the series, not to mention the grade. It's not like McKee and Klein and Sloate are sitting over there at a desk waiting to expertly grade these cards. For $10 a card it's some college girl who has been brushed up on the general idea.
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:08 AM
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Nice catch Todd, btw SGC and BVG both holder trimmed cards as well.
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Matt,

I am not an expert on the m104 etc cards , but I do collect them some. I think when you see a space between the picture and the frame it's a fake.
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:06 AM
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I am not an expert on the m104 etc cards , but I do collect them some. I think when you see a space between the picture and the frame it's a fake.
You are correct. There is a PSA graded fake Ruth in the detecting alterations and reprints section.
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:12 AM
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Default You are correct sir

That's right. A gap like that between frame and photo is the tell-tale sign. A real Wheat would show his entire throwing hand and arm with a very small space to the border.

I just didn't want anyone here to get burned by banking on PSA in this instance. I was also turned off by the auction title, for a "1916 m101-5 Sporting News Zach Wheat RC PSA 7", which is clearly false. The "card" is a reprint, is not a Sporting News (m101-5 never has a Sporting News back), is not his rookie card, and is not a PSA 7. Other than that he got it right; oh wait, since it's a reprint it is also neither an m101-5 nor from 1916. Guess he comes up empty on this one.
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Yet another example of why people should buy the card and not the holder!
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The cert still checks out for this one: http://www.psacard.com/Cert/21267674/

I believe the cert for the Ruth that was mentioned does not.
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