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Its not just moser/pwcc...more trimmers exposed
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They have outed several on the modern side.
There are others on the vintage side who don't have the paper trail too.
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From a pure business standpoint why would PWCC want to be linked to known card doctors who I believe are committing FRAUD?????? I think altering a card and misleading a potential buyer should be a punishable felony.
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As long as they're getting through PSA these guys can buy the cards through multiple Ebay IDs and sell them through any auction house. The only way to stop this is to figure out how or why so many doctored cards are making it through. Especially the modern trimmed cards which should be easy to measure.
If anyone has been thinking about starting a third party grading service now may be the time to do so.
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That may be true. But he doesn't need pwcc if he can get his cards through PSA. Any Ebay consignor or auction house will take the consignments. Especially if they're submitted under a different name.
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People seem to think Brent is the one submitting the cards, though. And there are plenty of people who would not take cards from him.
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This widespread problem transcends PWCC. As long as the "card modifiers" continue to dupe PSA, these issues can and will rear their ugly head potentially anywhere.... eBay, Auction Houses, net54's BST, direct sales, trades, etc. And why can't PSA just measure the cards, again? Has there been any response from them at all? It will be interesting to see if they ever acknowledge it, and how much their attorneys spin/downplay it. The power they have within the hobby is disgusting and shameful, and I wish that someone, somehow, some day could take them down. |
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Yet Moser almost exclusively uses Brent. I’m sure it’s just a coincidence as opposed to Brent being a full co-conspirator which could not be more obvious.
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What proof do you have of this? Aren’t you an attorney for the MOB lol?
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I disagree if a refund was given. Pwcc refunded all people who weren’t happy with their purchases. Nothing was ever sold as “not altered”. When you buy an expensive graded sportscard you should expect that is altered to some degree. So after a few people got upset, I spoke with Brent Huigens and agreed to buy back anything customers weren’t happy with.
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I do agree that the majority of high end sports cards are altered in some way, especially vintage cards. |
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Will Jaimet a.k.a "One Touch" Tigard, Oregon LOL. Thanks for the laugh... "One Touch" Last edited by Fuddjcal; 02-02-2023 at 07:07 PM. |
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Laughter is a key to life. I’m glad rhat you get off on other people’s demise. One touch is kinda a cool nickname to be honest. Shit is true lol
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I was accused of that. Since it’s hard to tell with encased cards, I bought back every card to my knowledge that buyers were in happy with. I still will always do that. Take care.
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If you go through THAT trouble for cards under $300....yikes man. YIKES. |
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All because of the registry crazies...its their fault!
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Have every graded card measured to the exact “...“ And put that measurement on the back of the label in small print. If it doesn’t measure correctly but is within a graders tolerance, the buyer can determine if that is ok.
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This is definitely a good idea and hopefully will be used in the future by the next...newest...best grading service!!!
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I am guessing the low dollar cards are used to practice and test what gets graded and what fails so he can have confidence the big dollar cards will get through.
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That may be, particularly if he wants to test a new method or instrument or whatever. I imagine some of these guys are quite meticulous in their work.
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For those, like myself, wanting to bring these issues to the attention of the FBI, following is the link to the Internet Crime Complaint Center
https://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk
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