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T206 Qs
3 questions that likely have been discussed elsewhere but I don't know how to search...
If one were able to assemble a collection of every card in the set, with every error and back variation, how many cards would there be? What are the 10 rarest (not most valuable or desirable, but rather RAREST based on available pop numbers and educated knowledge)? If I were to pursue a collection of truly common cards from the set (with most common backs), what would be the reasonable goal? (I'm looking for a ballpark number, not detailed list.) Thank you! Mike Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk |
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1. Over 5000
2. That list is out there 3. 500 |
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1 Around 5500
2 Doyle Error, Wagner, Plank, Magie Error, O'Hara Stl, Demmitt Stl, and then probably 4 random Southern Leaguers 3 I think a reasonable goal would be to accumulate them slowly, and have fun!
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I'm having great fun! Just curious what cards might be toughest to find. For instance, I've heard the Brooklyn Dahlen, the Washington Elberfeld portrait ... maybe some others. Are some Southern Leaguers notably scarce?
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Brooklyn Dahlen and Washington Elberfeld are harder than your average card but are pretty readily available at all times. demmitt and O’Hara are significantly harder to find (and much more expensive).
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Hi Mike,
The search function here is not optimal. Best way is to Google the subject then add net54 to the subject line, for example "Rareback T206 net54", etc. lots of archived threads will pop up. Good luck on your hunt! |
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One of your questions is answered in my signature. I update that number (5258) whenever a new discovery card is found. It is believed that there are more cards that were printed with different back combinations, but I only count confirmed cards that actually exist. That number does not include missing color cards, scrap cards such as the No Prints and the Old Mill SL Brown Backs, Old Mill Blue Backs, most print errors, (Magie and Doyle NY Nat'l. are exceptions.) and any double name or partial double name cards.
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Ron - Uncle Nacki T206 Master Monster Front/Back Set Collector - www.youtube.com/unclenacki T206 Basic "The Monster" Set 514/524 T206 Advanced "Master Monster" Front/Back Set ????/5258 COMPLETE T206 BACK SUBSETS Old Mill Southern Leagues - Black Ink 48/48 Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory 30 Full Color "No Prints" 28/28 NEAR COMPLETE T206 BACK SUBSETS Polar Bear 245/250 Sovereign 460 50/52 Sweet Caporal 150 Factory 649 Overprint 31/34 Piedmont 350 "Elite 11" 9/11 |
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The rarest might be high grade rare T206s that have not been altered.
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Small quality of life tip to go along with this: If you do "site:net54baseball.com" (minus the quotation marks) and then your search term, you will get results only from this site. IMO the best way to search forums since a lot of the baked in search functions can kinda be a pain
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All fantastic and appreciated thoughts. At first, I thought I would try to collect 520, not being particular about backs (although I do like some more than others). But some HofFers are sooo pricey, even in low grades, I thoughts I would work on commons and pick up a big-dollar card when price and my wallet reached a happy intersection.
But I've noticed some cards rarely appear, either on eBay or at local shows. I ran into a bunch of Old Mill cards last week at a shop (shocking) and paid the OM premium on several simply because I didn't know when I might see them again. My goal for 2023 was reaching 300 for my Monster number, with specific cards in mind. I'll be hunt The National....I'm at 265. A lot of fun, but always learning new things adds to the challenge. Plus ... I've picked up those peripheral affinities such as Batter Ups, T205s and finishing my W512 baseball set! Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk |
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My question is why is Dahlen so rare/scarce/expensive? I picked up mine in a $1 common box and it graded an SGC 40. I was shocked just now when I looked at eBay realized prices
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He is one of the favorites to most likely be put in the Hall Of Fame. But everyone has been saying this for over 10 years, and many started changing the prices to HOF levels, before it even happens. So it's for sure an over priced card for that reason, but prices tend to stay strong because his card is one of the Elite 11 subjects. Even though it should only matter on the Piedmont 350 backs only, some will bump up the EPDG prices for these 11 cards, and other collectors bump the price up, regardless of the card back.
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Current PSA pop reports have 40 cards with 300 or less graded examples including Doyle, Wagner, Plank, Magie, O'Hara-STL and Demmit-STL.
The rest are 33 Southern Leaguers with Cranston having the fewest graded at 229 and a Minor Leaguer Hunky Shaw-Providence at 284. The remaining 15 Southern Leaguers have between 302 (Revelle) and 354 (Foley White-Houston) examples
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Which one of the Dahlens is the rare one? I have Dahlen, Boston Nat'l.
Piedmont 350. Is this the rare one. Mine is PSA 3. Centering 40/60 left to right. 45/55 top to bottom. How much is this card worth? |
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A Dahlen Brooklyn Piedmont 350 PSA 3 sold for $798 in May.
A Dahlen Boston in PSA 3 sold for $240 this month |
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@Ronnie73 Thank you for all of the information. All of these varieties
really confuse me. |
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I've searched for this answer, with no luck. If Lundgren Chicago is one of the rarest cards in the set, why are there more of those in both PSA and SGC pops than the Kansas City version? Is it just because it's a popular card, therefore people send it in to be graded more often?
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I haven't looked in a while, but Magie had more graded examples than Magee... And when I was looking up a group of cards, the HOF ers were about double the population of the commons. |
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