2022 Baseball Hall of Fame - tracker

[Dead-Ball-Hitter]

Anyone here following the disclosed ballots for 2022 HOF? Looks like David Ortiz will be a first ballot HOFer. Steriod era big names guys getting close.

Here's a link to the well known tracker:

https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?...K9u16pmWGGlQsI

[shagrotn77]

Ortiz *might* get in, but it's far from a lock. The numbers always drop once the non-public votes are incorporated. If Ortiz doesn't make it, this would be the second year in a row that the committee didn't elect anyone.

Carlos Beltran is the only first-ballot player with a shot to get in next year, though I think his ties to the Astros cheating scandal will hurt him a lot. You may see Scott Rolen as the only inductee next year, unless Todd Helton takes a big step forward this year. Then we could have 2.

[OldOriole]

I check it each day, gives me some sense of baseball news during the lockout. I don't think Clemens and Bonds will get in. The vote has fallen for the steroid linked guys at the end of the voting (over 11 percentage points for Bonds and Clemens last year) because the older, more traditional voters don't participate in the tracker. Although the composition of the voters is changing each year, and more young voters are willing to forgive bonds and Clemens of their transgressions, it will be too little too late. I don't think they get in, and they was their final attempt until the Committees start voting on them in a few years.

Ortiz is an interesting case. He's been hovering around 83-84% in the tracker, so even with a decrease at the end he has a good chance. Many traditional voters won't vote for him (at least on the first ballot) because he played so many games a DH. He'll eventually get in. As for this year, I think it comes right down to the wire.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by OldOriole

I check it each day, gives me some sense of baseball news during the lockout. I don't think Clemens and Bonds will get in. The vote has fallen for the steroid linked guys at the end of the voting (over 11 percentage points for Bonds and Clemens last year) because the older, more traditional voters don't participate in the tracker. Although the composition of the voters is changing each year, and more young voters are willing to forgive bonds and Clemens of their transgressions, it will be too little too late. I don't think they get in, and they was their final attempt until the Committees start voting on them in a few years.

Ortiz is an interesting case. He's been hovering around 83-84% in the tracker, so even with a decrease at the end he has a good chance. Many traditional voters won't vote for him (at least on the first ballot) because he played so many games a DH. He'll eventually get in. As for this year, I think it comes right down to the wire.

+1 agreed and if Ortiz misses this year he will be a lock next year.
As for Bonds and Clemens they will miss but probably get in with the next round in the modern players committee or whatever name they have now

[jayshum]

Ortiz might get in, but if he does, it will be close.

Next year will be interesting because with Bonds, Clemens, Schilling and Sosa off the ballot, people who have been voting for them and possibly hitting the 10 vote maximum will have space open up to vote for others so some players like Rolen and Helton could get a boost.

[jiw98]

I've often wondered how a guy that don't make the HOF in their first year of eligibility can be elected in future years. Did their stats change after they retired? My thoughts are that either you are good enough for the Hall or your not. How can you vote for a player in say year 4 or 5 but not in year one? If the voters can't see the difference between a great player and good player maybe they aren't qualified to vote. JMO

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by jiw98

I've often wondered how a guy that don't make the HOF in their first year of eligibility can be elected in future years. Did their stats change after they retired? My thoughts are that either you are good enough for the Hall or your not. How can you vote for a player in say year 4 or 5 but not in year one? If the voters can't see the difference between a great player and good player maybe they aren't qualified to vote. JMO

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[BCauley]

Originally Posted by jiw98

I've often wondered how a guy that don't make the HOF in their first year of eligibility can be elected in future years. Did their stats change after they retired? My thoughts are that either you are good enough for the Hall or your not. How can you vote for a player in say year 4 or 5 but not in year one? If the voters can't see the difference between a great player and good player maybe they aren't qualified to vote. JMO

This is pretty similar to how I view it as well. I know there is a "thing" where people don't feel some players are first ballot HOF worthy, whatever that's supposed to mean, but get voted for the following year(s). If you think they are a HOF player, then vote for them. I don't understand the reasoning for all the games behind it. Last I knew the HOF doesn't have different wings/corridors for HOFers based on what ballot year they got in.

[jimtodd]

Right now only 47% of ballots known, so not crazy accurate yet. Looks like the past few years they got 83%-84% of ballots by the end and had pretty close outcomes.
I agree, I never understood if the same voter penalizes a player by not voting for him the first year, but will the second. I understand if you change your mind about a player, but it doesn’t make sense to intentionally do it.

3B is traditionally overlooked by the Hall, and Rolen is a top 10 3B all-time in WAR. I hope he gets in. According to this he’s close again.