Ok, so here is the plan

[Leon]

First of all we buy or get a crappy, fake '52 Mantle. We send it to PSA for grading, fully knowing the outcome. Step two, get somewhat ambiguous PSA flip and hang onto it. Step three, get some other wacky looking holder to surround the fake Mantle, still showing the ambiguous looking PSA flip. Step four, take pictures of all of this mess. Step five, list on ebay with a great explanation of how PSA can't tell if it's good. Step six, hope for a sucker...I am sure that would never happen though....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-M...3D361522581124

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[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Leon

First of all we buy or get a crappy, fake '52 Mantle. We send it to PSA for grading, fully knowing the outcome. Step two, get somewhat ambiguous PSA flip and hang onto it. Step three, get some other wacky looking holder to surround the fake Mantle, still showing the ambiguous looking PSA flip. Step four, take pictures of all of this mess. Step five, list on ebay with a great explanation of how PSA can't tell if it's good. Step six, hope for a sucker...I am sure that would never happen though....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-M...3D361522581124

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What's your max bid Leon? I'm interested too.

[begsu1013]

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[Snapolit1]

Just wondering . . . what does PSA and SGC do if you send them a fake? Do they send you a flip back with some bs like like "? Auth ??"? If so that's ridiculous. It's fake or its not fake. Isn't that the essence of your business to tell the difference?

[irv]

Originally Posted by Leon

First of all we buy or get a crappy, fake '52 Mantle. We send it to PSA for grading, fully knowing the outcome. Step two, get somewhat ambiguous PSA flip and hang onto it. Step three, get some other wacky looking holder to surround the fake Mantle, still showing the ambiguous looking PSA flip. Step four, take pictures of all of this mess. Step five, list on ebay with a great explanation of how PSA can't tell if it's good. Step six, hope for a sucker...I am sure that would never happen though....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-M...3D361522581124

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Unbelievable, isn't it!? I seen one the other night. The seller said he didn't know if it was real or not because it was ungraded. It looked narrow/small to me but yet he already received a lot of bids and if memory serves, it was already bid up over $300.00 dollars even though he said he was selling it as a reprint.

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Just wondering . . . what does PSA and SGC do if you send them a fake? Do they send you a flip back with some bs like like "? Auth ??"? If so that's ridiculous. It's fake or its not fake. Isn't that the essence of your business to tell the difference?

Always wondered that as well?

[pawpawdiv9]

I rather bid on his unopened packs and have fun, but they probably been searched and re-glued.
Oh Wow! He has a signed 51B Mantle...grab it, oh wait its not graded Auth?----I pass on it
low feedback and 1 neg for 3 boxes of Griffey RC never arrived, or didn't get what he wanted for them.

[nat]

They should really just slab it and label it counterfeit.

So he's got a bunch of bids on it. What're the odds that he's shilling his own counterfeit card, in the hopes that it'll be more plausible that it's real to the suckers? I don't know what would make me feel worse about humanity, that scammers shill their own auctions, or that lots of people think that this card might be real.