1952 3rd Series Gray Backs vs. 1960 5th Series White Backs

[toppcat]

Title says it all, curious as to people's take on which is harder to find, realizing that there are two types of 52 grays.

Also, I make it out that the 60 White Backs run from #375-440 and don't exactly follow that 5th Series checklist run of 353-429 as they follow the press run and not the checklists. Can anyone disprove this?

[mckinneyj]

Can't prove it, but sampling my hoard of 60s agrees with your assessment of#375-440 as the white back range - I suspect that the 1960s grays in this range are not particularly scarce as I have 28 of them - and only a single 52 gray back within the (IMO really scarce) #132-190 range white back for comparison.

[mckinneyj]

I may have mistaken your intent... from something I read there are actually 3 variations for each card - gray, cream, and white, correct? I suspect that I have zero white backs and so can't offer an opinion - can you post a pic of a cream and white side by side by any chance?

[Republicaninmass]

Some grays have a grayish front, while others are white on the front

[mckinneyj]

Found an example of the white back / cream back comparison here, about halfway down the page - http://community.ebay.com/t5/Archive...s/td-p/2744817

[SMPEP]

I think the "white backs" in the 1960s are just as elusive as the grey backs in the 1952 series.

With that said ... I think the reason that the 1960 "white backs" don't get the same recognition is that some don't believe they are anything other than "cream backs" that are cleaner.

For me ... my eyes just aren't good enough in many cases to distinguish which is which. For example, I've seen the 1952 greys backs that even when I put them side by side next to a glossy 1952 grey back and a dull 1952 grey back I can't tell which the card is.

So good luck identifying a 1960 "white" versus "cream" based on a photo on Ebay.

My other theory is that the 1952 greys also gain recognition because you can tell a difference on the front (of most of them). The 1954 greys are just as hard (harder?) to find, but you can only find them by seeing the backs of the cards and given how few photos of those backs are taken ... good luck finding them. The same may be true for the 1960 "whites".

Cheers,
Patrick

[Zach Wheat]

Originally Posted by mckinneyj

Found an example of the white back / cream back comparison here, about halfway down the page - http://community.ebay.com/t5/Archive...s/td-p/2744817

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