T 207 brown background Tinker and Chance cards

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Posted By: Ken McMillan

Hello,

I have a pair of T207 Recruit little cigar cards from 1912 and was trying to estimimate their value. They are Frank Chance and Joe Tinker. Both cards have no rounding on their corners and the backs are clean. There are no marks on the front, but the fronts have fine crazing on each of the cards. In general, for 95 year old cards, they are in excellent condition. Neither card has been graded, but can be sent in for grading.

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Posted By: Judge Dred (Fred)

Can you place the cards on top of each other and see if there is much/any difference in size. If so, which is wider and which is taller?

Thanks!

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Posted By: Mike

Do these cards vary in size...I have a bunch and they all seem to vary slightly in size...not sure if they are trimmed or not...also, when you look at the T207's for sale, the borders on the cards are all over the place...any insight would be greatly appreciated.

As for prices, the last Chance PSA 5 went on eBay for $255

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190057038688

The last PSA 5 Tinker on eBay went for $430

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200003640324


I have found it hard to get a grip on prices for the T207's...

Mike

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Posted By: Bob

Tinker is tougher to find in nice condition than Chance.

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Posted By: B.C.Daniels

it would not re-grade on inspection a grade of "ex".

a psa 5 would sell for $440.67 or so if listed right now.

according to Vintagecardprices.com~

http://www.vintagecardprices.com/set-profile/index.php?set_id=251&set_name=&set_type=&set_number=t207&sa=1

one sold for $267.00 but that was a yrear ago in an SGC 60 holder.

BcD

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Posted By: Ken McMillan

The cards are exactly the same size and do not have evidence of trimming. I purchased them from two different vendors about 10 years ago.

Ken

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Posted By: paul s.

Neither of those cards has a bottom border. They are nice cards but I don't think they will grade as ex.

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Posted By: mark

The bottoms do look cut, if they measure correctly PSA would label it (MC). I sold a PSA 4 t207 tinker last year from the nagy collection for $390.00.

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Posted By: Ken McMillan

I will measure the cards before submitting them. I believe I read that the correct measurements should be 1 1/2 inch by 2 1/2 inches for these cards. Is this correct?

Ken

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Posted By: mark

1 1/2 x 2 5/8, here is a link.


http://www.the-forum.com/collect/baseball/t207.htm

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Posted By: Bob

PSA may grade them MC but they may not. I have owned and seen a lot of Tinkers with very small or non-existent borders on the bottom so I don't think it is trimmed.

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Posted By: Ken McMillan

here are some better scans of the cards

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Posted By: Anonymous

The Tinker might fetch 70-80, the Chance a little more.

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Posted By: mark

Did you get a chance to check the size?

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Posted By: Ken McMillan

they measured 1 7/16 inch by 2 5/8 inches. Both cards were identical dimensions and bought from 2 different dealers. interesting as there does not appear to be any evidenec for trimming. I guess the ultimate judge would be SCG of PSA. I like the cards anyway so even if they didn't grade out, no big deal.