T209-2 Question

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Posted By: Zach Rice

I was looking over a few of mine from the set today and became intrigued by the inner gray border that seperates the inner photo and the white border on them. I included scans of my Derrick and McFarlin. I've noticed that the size of this gray border varies drastically. It can be very fat like on the McFarlin, a bit skinner like on the Derrick or even not even there on some except at the bottom. Does anyone know the story behind this ? Was this a result of poor product control or just the design. I would imagine it would have been easier to make every card with the same inner gray border but apparently it wasn't that way. Also, if I were to find another McFarlin, would the inner gray border on it be the same as mine or could it be possibly skinner or even fatter ? Thanks in advance for any help.

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Posted By: scott brockelman

Zach,

the photos are all cropped differently, i believe local photographers took each teams pictures seperatly which also gives us the neat poses, some ballpark and some studio.

Strange that you should post this, as today i picked up a small group of these and 1 of them has a black framelined border and bottom text like no others, yet has a regular back, I have NEVER seen one like this and have had a few hundred of these.



Scott

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Posted By: robert a

That t209 is bizarro scott.
Something new every day i guess...

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Posted By: Zach Rice

Wow Scott, nice card. I talked about this with another T209 collector who says he has seen a few of the all black borders like yours. Another question, regarding the B.E. Thompson card. It is obviously the most famed card in the set for obvious reasons, but what about the back of it. It is completely different than any other series 2 backs except the Contentinea logo on the back. Was the card possibly given out as some type of promotional item ? It also mentions to save Thompson's photo, any idea if you could possibly redeem it for anything ?

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Posted By: Jay

Scott--Did you get any dups in the group you picked up?


Zach-There is also a very scarce two player card in the set

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Posted By: scott brockelman

Jay,

yes, I do have 3 dupes on the BST, let me know if need any of them, or have any I need.

Zach,

I would like to know of ANY other T209's with a black frameline, I have communicated with a T209 collector who has nearly the entire set and he has never seen another besides Lane.

Perhaps Jay can confirm this as well.

Scott

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Posted By: Jay

Scott-I could use the Andrada as an upgrade (mine is trimmed). Unfortunately, I don't have any you need. I have my cards at the bank but I don't recall any others with the black frame line.

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Posted By: Richard Masson

I give up. What's so special about the B.E.Thompson card?

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Posted By: Zach Rice

I guess it isn't as special as it is a neat image. The famous Uncle Sam card.

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Posted By: robert a

It's a cool image, it's a tough to find card if you're collecting the set, and it's a bit of a mystery. Who the heck was he? People have didn't opinions on who he was....president of the league, manager, uncle sam's bastard child, etc.

I like the mystery of the card, along with the fact that it's different from the rest of the cards in the set.

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Posted By: Brian Weisner

Hi Scott,
I have one and here is another: Armstrong bottom right.....

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Posted By: scott brockelman

Thompson was the league commissioner.

Armstrong is one of the cards I need so did not have him to compare with. interestingly enough he is also a Wilson player!

is he for sale?

Scott

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Posted By: robert a

The font on the two wilson cards looks similar to the type 1s. Wonder is all the wilson cards have the same font.
The two Charlotte cards look to have the same.

I think b.e. thompson's wilson though, so that might confuse this.

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Posted By: Brian Weisner

Hi Scott,
The Armstrong is not mine, but I do have a Lavoia(Fayetteville) that has a black border. I agree that teams seem to have the same borders. Most of the Portrait's in the set have nice size gray borders, but most of the other players have little or no border. I will look at all of my Wilson and Fayetteville scans and see If they all have the black border. Be well Brian

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Posted By: scott brockelman

both lane and wilson are in the type 1's but not Lavoia.

and the text is the same font as type 1's, perhaps these were early type 2's using some type 1 designs?

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Posted By: robert a

I thought this was an interesting thread.

Anyone else have any information about the possible connection between type 1 & 2?


By the way: Scott. How do you know Thompson was the commish?