Show your cards/sets PSA refuses to grade

[whiteymet]

Hi Gang:

Read this article today:

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...cd6d5-83221465

And it brought to mind a set I tried to have graded at the National. A 1952 N.Y. Giants 12 different photo team issue that I have in the original envelope. See photo below.

The reason given why they would not grade them was "No reputable checklist/source confirming distribution/release of team issue".

I am sure this has happened to many of you in the past. Post yours here for all to see. Hopefully someone may have info that could persuade PSA to change their collective mind. Plus it's always cool to see uncatalogued stuff.

[raulus]

Fred - odd that your set would be from 1962, since Willie is pictured in his NY uniform, and the G-men moved out west in 1958.

[whiteymet]

Originally Posted by raulus

Fred - odd that your set would be from 1962, since Willie is pictured in his NY uniform, and the G-men moved out west in 1958.

MY bad! Typing is not my forte! Has been corrected to 1952

Thanks

[raulus]

Oddly enough, PSA will grade these individual stickers, but when it comes to the complete sheets, they refuse to grade them, at least at present. For whatever reason, I have a long and storied history of being rejected by PSA, and then a few months or years later, someone else will convince them to grade the piece that they refused to grade for me, at which point I'll circle back and get it graded.

Before anyone asks, while they are jumbo-sized, they will fit into the PSA jumbo holders, so that's not the issue.

[whiteymet]

Originally Posted by raulus

Oddly enough, PSA will grade these individual stickers, but when it comes to the complete sheets, they refuse to grade them, at least at present. For whatever reason, I have a long and storied history of being rejected by PSA, and then a few months or years later, someone else will convince them to grade the piece that they refused to grade for me, at which point I'll circle back and get it graded.

Before anyone asks, while they are jumbo-sized, they will fit into the PSA jumbo holders, so that's not the issue.

WOW! Where'd you get those??

[Peter_Spaeth]

PSA recently refused to grade some 1971 RCA Country Music cards including what I consider to be a gem, Willie Nelson's first card. They were not impressed by links to both Trading Card Database and the website of the world's leading music card collector. According to them, these were insufficient "crowd" sources.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

PSA recently refused to grade some 1971 RCA Country Music cards including what I consider to be a gem, Willie Nelson's first card. They were not impressed by links to both Trading Card Database and the website of the world's leading music card collector. According to them, these were insufficient "crowd" sources.

Too big for their own britches. One has to provide two website sources in order for them to consider looking at an item. Does PSA know that what is now in print in all the guides they use as checklists were crowd sourced? LOL. The ACC and Krause guide is nothing but a collection of data from collectors. Cannot argue with stupid.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

Too big for their own britches. One has to provide two website sources in order for them to consider looking at an item. Does PSA know that what is now in print in all the guides they use as checklists were crowd sourced? LOL. The ACC and Krause guide is nothing but a collection of data from collectors. Cannot argue with stupid.

I have the feeling if I were an insider, they would have said, "Sure."

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I have the feeling if I were an insider, they would have said, "Sure."

All about the submitter there, not what is being submitted.

[Leon]

Those are cool!

Originally Posted by raulus

Oddly enough, PSA will grade these individual stickers, but when it comes to the complete sheets, they refuse to grade them, at least at present. For whatever reason, I have a long and storied history of being rejected by PSA, and then a few months or years later, someone else will convince them to grade the piece that they refused to grade for me, at which point I'll circle back and get it graded.

Before anyone asks, while they are jumbo-sized, they will fit into the PSA jumbo holders, so that's not the issue.

[Big Red Machine]

Here are a couple of Johnny Bench cards from my collection that SGC will grade but not PSA.

[Rhotchkiss]

They won’t grade this a bc they don’t have a case to for them

[Big Red Machine]

I wish there was a case large enough to slab the uncut Kahns.

[wazoo]

Still blows my mind

[BillyC_KY]

I just got this card back from PSA. They refused to grade it as a gray back and a yellow Tiger. I feel like this would mess up the registry of the master set. It was worth a try.

[Snowman]

Should I just post a picture of every 1961 Fleer basketball card I've ever owned?

[tjisonline]

PSA refuses to grade my 1977 Reggie 3-color proof though they have sheet / hand cut cards in their slabs (e.g. 1967 Topps Roger Maris - Yankees proof).


I assume maybe part of the problem is the 1977 Reggie proof is just “rare” enough (or ignored) that it was never entered into early publications / databases such as Beckett DB, the late Bob Lemke’s old standard card catalogs. PSA uses those are sourced along with tcdb (which uses the same sources).

[Powerright46blast]

Both PSA and SGC refused to slab both my 1974 Topps puzzle hank Aaron and 1974 Topps puzzle proof Hank Aaron. Both companies have examples in their respective databases.

[ALR-bishop]

TJ Great item.

Several 1977 proof cards with players in either different poses or uniforms from their issued cards, including the Jackson, were in listed in the SCD Standard Catalog 2011 edition ( the last one that included post 1980 listings)

Power--- can you post scan of the the Aaron Puzzle Proof. I have a set of the Puzzles but have never seen one of the proofs....another neat item

[balltrash]

While these would appear to fit in a PSA holder I believe they are actually very slightly too large. I have one at hand and I have held it up to a few holders and I believe there would be a good chance of it getting "pinched" at either the top and/or bottom. Close but at least the one I have is just a touch too large (I mean literally a few millimeters).

Originally Posted by raulus

Oddly enough, PSA will grade these individual stickers, but when it comes to the complete sheets, they refuse to grade them, at least at present. For whatever reason, I have a long and storied history of being rejected by PSA, and then a few months or years later, someone else will convince them to grade the piece that they refused to grade for me, at which point I'll circle back and get it graded.

Before anyone asks, while they are jumbo-sized, they will fit into the PSA jumbo holders, so that's not the issue.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by balltrash

While these would appear to fit in a PSA holder I believe they are actually very slightly too large. I have one at hand and I have held it up to a few holders and I believe there would be a good chance of it getting "pinched" at either the top and/or bottom. Close but at least the one I have is just a touch too large (I mean literally a few millimeters).

I think the jumbo holders fit up to 11 inches top to bottom, right? Is your piece taller than 11 inches?

[The Detroit Collector]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

They won’t grade this a bc they don’t have a case to for them

yep, the m101-1

[Powerright46blast]

Attached are the pics of the 1974 Topps puzzle and proof PSA and SGC did not want to authenticate.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by balltrash

While these would appear to fit in a PSA holder I believe they are actually very slightly too large. I have one at hand and I have held it up to a few holders and I believe there would be a good chance of it getting "pinched" at either the top and/or bottom. Close but at least the one I have is just a touch too large (I mean literally a few millimeters).

I’ll be darned. Just measured mine again, and you are absolutely correct. Long by about 3/32 of an inch.