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whiteymet 08-13-2024 09:40 AM

Show your cards/sets PSA refuses to grade
 
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Hi Gang:

Read this article today:

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...cd6d5-83221465

And it brought to mind a set I tried to have graded at the National. A 1952 N.Y. Giants 12 different photo team issue that I have in the original envelope. See photo below.

The reason given why they would not grade them was "No reputable checklist/source confirming distribution/release of team issue".

I am sure this has happened to many of you in the past. Post yours here for all to see. Hopefully someone may have info that could persuade PSA to change their collective mind. Plus it's always cool to see uncatalogued stuff.

raulus 08-13-2024 10:14 AM

Fred - odd that your set would be from 1962, since Willie is pictured in his NY uniform, and the G-men moved out west in 1958.

whiteymet 08-13-2024 10:19 AM

Typo
 
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Originally Posted by raulus (Post 2453990)
Fred - odd that your set would be from 1962, since Willie is pictured in his NY uniform, and the G-men moved out west in 1958.

MY bad! Typing is not my forte! Has been corrected to 1952

Thanks

raulus 08-13-2024 10:23 AM

1964 Sports Heroes complete sheet
 
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Oddly enough, PSA will grade these individual stickers, but when it comes to the complete sheets, they refuse to grade them, at least at present. For whatever reason, I have a long and storied history of being rejected by PSA, and then a few months or years later, someone else will convince them to grade the piece that they refused to grade for me, at which point I'll circle back and get it graded.

Before anyone asks, while they are jumbo-sized, they will fit into the PSA jumbo holders, so that's not the issue.

whiteymet 08-13-2024 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by raulus (Post 2453994)
Oddly enough, PSA will grade these individual stickers, but when it comes to the complete sheets, they refuse to grade them, at least at present. For whatever reason, I have a long and storied history of being rejected by PSA, and then a few months or years later, someone else will convince them to grade the piece that they refused to grade for me, at which point I'll circle back and get it graded.

Before anyone asks, while they are jumbo-sized, they will fit into the PSA jumbo holders, so that's not the issue.

WOW! Where'd you get those?? :):):)

Peter_Spaeth 08-13-2024 12:07 PM

PSA recently refused to grade some 1971 RCA Country Music cards including what I consider to be a gem, Willie Nelson's first card. They were not impressed by links to both Trading Card Database and the website of the world's leading music card collector. According to them, these were insufficient "crowd" sources.

Lorewalker 08-13-2024 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2454008)
PSA recently refused to grade some 1971 RCA Country Music cards including what I consider to be a gem, Willie Nelson's first card. They were not impressed by links to both Trading Card Database and the website of the world's leading music card collector. According to them, these were insufficient "crowd" sources.

Too big for their own britches. One has to provide two website sources in order for them to consider looking at an item. Does PSA know that what is now in print in all the guides they use as checklists were crowd sourced? LOL. The ACC and Krause guide is nothing but a collection of data from collectors. Cannot argue with stupid.

Peter_Spaeth 08-13-2024 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorewalker (Post 2454020)
Too big for their own britches. One has to provide two website sources in order for them to consider looking at an item. Does PSA know that what is now in print in all the guides they use as checklists were crowd sourced? LOL. The ACC and Krause guide is nothing but a collection of data from collectors. Cannot argue with stupid.

I have the feeling if I were an insider, they would have said, "Sure."

Lorewalker 08-13-2024 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2454022)
I have the feeling if I were an insider, they would have said, "Sure."

All about the submitter there, not what is being submitted.

Leon 08-17-2024 11:30 AM

Those are cool!
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Originally Posted by raulus (Post 2453994)
Oddly enough, PSA will grade these individual stickers, but when it comes to the complete sheets, they refuse to grade them, at least at present. For whatever reason, I have a long and storied history of being rejected by PSA, and then a few months or years later, someone else will convince them to grade the piece that they refused to grade for me, at which point I'll circle back and get it graded.

Before anyone asks, while they are jumbo-sized, they will fit into the PSA jumbo holders, so that's not the issue.


Big Red Machine 08-18-2024 04:11 AM

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Here are a couple of Johnny Bench cards from my collection that SGC will grade but not PSA.

Rhotchkiss 08-18-2024 08:28 AM

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They won’t grade this a bc they don’t have a case to for them

Big Red Machine 08-18-2024 10:10 AM

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I wish there was a case large enough to slab the uncut Kahns.

wazoo 08-18-2024 02:22 PM

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Still blows my mind

BillyC_KY 08-18-2024 07:42 PM

1952 Topps gray back yellow Tiger
 
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I just got this card back from PSA. They refused to grade it as a gray back and a yellow Tiger. I feel like this would mess up the registry of the master set. It was worth a try.

Snowman 08-18-2024 08:46 PM

Should I just post a picture of every 1961 Fleer basketball card I've ever owned?

tjisonline 03-18-2025 12:41 PM

Show your cards/sets PSA refuses to grade
 
PSA refuses to grade my 1977 Reggie 3-color proof though they have sheet / hand cut cards in their slabs (e.g. 1967 Topps Roger Maris - Yankees proof).


I assume maybe part of the problem is the 1977 Reggie proof is just “rare” enough (or ignored) that it was never entered into early publications / databases such as Beckett DB, the late Bob Lemke’s old standard card catalogs. PSA uses those are sourced along with tcdb (which uses the same sources).

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...e8f51c569b.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...029f335ed3.jpg

Powerright46blast 03-18-2025 12:59 PM

Both PSA and SGC refused to slab both my 1974 Topps puzzle hank Aaron and 1974 Topps puzzle proof Hank Aaron. Both companies have examples in their respective databases.

ALR-bishop 03-18-2025 01:00 PM

TJ Great item.

Several 1977 proof cards with players in either different poses or uniforms from their issued cards, including the Jackson, were in listed in the SCD Standard Catalog 2011 edition ( the last one that included post 1980 listings)

Power--- can you post scan of the the Aaron Puzzle Proof. I have a set of the Puzzles but have never seen one of the proofs....another neat item

balltrash 03-18-2025 01:27 PM

While these would appear to fit in a PSA holder I believe they are actually very slightly too large. I have one at hand and I have held it up to a few holders and I believe there would be a good chance of it getting "pinched" at either the top and/or bottom. Close but at least the one I have is just a touch too large (I mean literally a few millimeters).


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Originally Posted by raulus (Post 2453994)
Oddly enough, PSA will grade these individual stickers, but when it comes to the complete sheets, they refuse to grade them, at least at present. For whatever reason, I have a long and storied history of being rejected by PSA, and then a few months or years later, someone else will convince them to grade the piece that they refused to grade for me, at which point I'll circle back and get it graded.

Before anyone asks, while they are jumbo-sized, they will fit into the PSA jumbo holders, so that's not the issue.


raulus 03-18-2025 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by balltrash (Post 2504023)
While these would appear to fit in a PSA holder I believe they are actually very slightly too large. I have one at hand and I have held it up to a few holders and I believe there would be a good chance of it getting "pinched" at either the top and/or bottom. Close but at least the one I have is just a touch too large (I mean literally a few millimeters).

I think the jumbo holders fit up to 11 inches top to bottom, right? Is your piece taller than 11 inches?

The Detroit Collector 03-18-2025 04:51 PM

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They won’t grade this a bc they don’t have a case to for them



yep, the m101-1

Powerright46blast 03-18-2025 07:05 PM

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Attached are the pics of the 1974 Topps puzzle and proof PSA and SGC did not want to authenticate.

raulus 03-18-2025 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by balltrash (Post 2504023)
While these would appear to fit in a PSA holder I believe they are actually very slightly too large. I have one at hand and I have held it up to a few holders and I believe there would be a good chance of it getting "pinched" at either the top and/or bottom. Close but at least the one I have is just a touch too large (I mean literally a few millimeters).

I’ll be darned. Just measured mine again, and you are absolutely correct. Long by about 3/32 of an inch.


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