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Old 10-24-2022, 08:16 PM
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Default PSA 3 Wagner Cracker Jack rounding third...

If home plate is considered to be the bottom right corner of this Cracker Jack Wagner, then Honus is rounding third and headed for home.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/38518503715...stomer=480L7Vx

It is a nice looking Cracker Jack, but do cards that have such an extreme rounded corner like this one typically warrant a VG grade? I vote preferential treatment for whoever submitted it for grading.

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Old 10-24-2022, 08:40 PM
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Seems like an extremely generous "3" considering a tiny pinhole is usually an automatic "1" from PSA. You could probably fit 15 pinholes in the chunk missing from that card.
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Old 10-24-2022, 08:43 PM
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Seems like an extremely generous "3" considering a tiny pinhole is usually an automatic "1" from PSA. You could probably fit 15 pinholes in the chunk missing from that card.
Good point. I think this card will, if submitted, qualify to be part of my "Chunk Missing" thread.

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Old 10-25-2022, 04:51 AM
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Agreed but Still a great card that will look nice in any collection.
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Nice card! I would guess that the corner broke of this card at some point due to the condition sensitivity of this issue…they are paper thin. After the break it likely re-rounded over time before being submitted for grading. Many 1914 CJs have small or even large breaks / chips.
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Old slab, but I've always thought in general that prewar gets preferential treatment in mid-low grade over postwar. For example, you will see many slabs of T206 cards and especially older flips where a card that is given a 5 will have corners way more rounded than what would typically be allowed on a postwar 5. I've never understood this.
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I would guess that the corner broke of this card at some point due to the condition sensitivity of this issue…they are paper thin. After the break it likely re-rounded over time before being submitted for grading.
I would guess a short period of time.
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If home plate is considered to be the bottom right corner of this Cracker Jack Wagner, then Honus is rounding third and headed for home.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/38518503715...stomer=480L7Vx

It is a nice looking Cracker Jack, but do cards that have such an extreme rounded corner like this one typically warrant a VG grade? I vote preferential treatment for whoever submitted it for grading.

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This is my Wagner that I scanned before I sent it to PSA. It came back a 3.

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RE: "I vote preferential treatment for whoever submitted it for grading.";

+1.

Add to the, "chunk" thread, lol!
Great catch and thread, Brian.

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Seems like an extremely generous "3" considering a tiny pinhole is usually an automatic "1" from PSA. You could probably fit 15 pinholes in the chunk missing from that card.
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Flaws carry the same weight. That said a 3 is generous.
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If home plate is considered to be the bottom right corner of this Cracker Jack Wagner, then Honus is rounding third and headed for home.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/38518503715...stomer=480L7Vx

It is a nice looking Cracker Jack, but do cards that have such an extreme rounded corner like this one typically warrant a VG grade? I vote preferential treatment for whoever submitted it for grading.

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Stupidly generous. Why is a pinhole an automatic 1 and yet a card can be missing a huge portion of a corner and get a 3?? haha. Makes no sense.
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I wonder when these 904- PSA cards were graded.

I have some missing corner cards like this that are 1’s but a green Cobb that got a 1.5. 3 is too generous.
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It is an old holder but if you look at PSA 3 examples that have been sold in VCP, no others are even close to looking like this card.

In today's environment, the card gets a 1 or 1.5 IMO.

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I wouldn't be surprised if a fellow member was the submitter.

Card warrants an A all day by all grading standards from the least popular to the most popular grading service.
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Old 10-26-2022, 07:08 AM
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It would get a numerical grade IMO, just not a 3!

I see no reason it would be graded Authentic.

Has it been trimmed, recolored, etc.? I see no proof of that in the picture.

There is proof it is over graded IMO due to the one corner.

Still, a rare card that most collectors of this set would be thrilled to own.
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Here is another rounded corner 14 CJ PSA 3 (not mine) for your consideration
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Two jagged sides...a PSA 5...really?
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I didn't feel great about buying this '14 CJ Speaker PSA 3 when I did, because I felt that chip on the top left corner made it a weaker 3. But I guess in comparison to other 3's which have been shown, it appears to be a pretty strong card for the grade!
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Checking out this thread's cards, my 1914 Meyers may just have a chance for PSA 2.

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