SGC - New in 2022

[parkplace33]

SCG grading company came out with a short video saying turnarounds times are 22 days and they are excited about new things in 2022. Any insight what they will be?

Maybe a registry

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by parkplace33

SCG grading company came out with a short video saying turnarounds times are 22 days and they are excited about new things in 2022. Any insight what they will be?

Maybe a registry

Maybe they will start to grade vintage accurately? They are just hammering.

[mrreality68]

I guess details to follow and the great things to come.

Kind of like a teaser.

Hopefully the basics would be nice

1. Accurate grading
2. Faster turnaround time
3. New lower tier pricing for grading
4. Improved communication
5. Easier access to customer service

[Oscar_Stanage]

I'd prefer if they just provided their customers with a registry. seriously, how hard is it to hire some developers and create one?

[sportscardpete]

I bet they form a partnership with someone. Maybe a marketplace so that you can have your cards graded and directly sent to the marketplace to be sold (and maybe the marketplace helps reduce the price or something??). Makes a ton of sense for SGC. If you are a long-term collector you probably don't care, but this will help SGC's position with the flippers, who are an increasingly large % of the hobby.

The registry just makes too much sense. That, and better pop reports so we can easily see how many of a specific card are graded (gosh, it is so annoying seeing total pop report across the big 3 graders - takes way too much time).

[Johnny630]

Any hope of a legit registry, pop report, website and slab with a barcode ?

Let’s Hope 2022 Brings SGC to the National to Grade On Site…..they didn’t do onsite this year. Was shocked they would leave that much money on the table.

[robw1959]

Originally Posted by sportscardpete

I bet they form a partnership with someone. Maybe a marketplace so that you can have your cards graded and directly sent to the marketplace to be sold (and maybe the marketplace helps reduce the price or something??). Makes a ton of sense for SGC. If you are a long-term collector you probably don't care, but this will help SGC's position with the flippers, who are an increasingly large % of the hobby.

The registry just makes too much sense. That, and better pop reports so we can easily see how many of a specific card are graded (gosh, it is so annoying seeing total pop report across the big 3 graders - takes way too much time).

I sure hope they don't do this. It might make sense, but it's such a potential conflict of interest that would undermine their integrity.

[Dead-Ball-Hitter]

Originally Posted by Oscar_Stanage

I'd prefer if they just provided their customers with a registry. seriously, how hard is it to hire some developers and create one?

Totally agree. This would be good for their business, having a full featured registry would likely move a few folks off of PSAs dinosaur registry.

[YankeeHotelFoxtrot]

Accurate grading? Compared with the other two of the BIG 3, SGC is by far the most accurate.

Faster turnaround time? They are faster than any grading company out there. There were a few months last year when I was getting my cards back in two weeks.

Not sure what MORE SGC could do on those two points.

Originally Posted by mrreality68

I guess details to follow and the great things to come.

Kind of like a teaser.

Hopefully the basics would be nice

1. Accurate grading
2. Faster turnaround time
3. New lower tier pricing for grading
4. Improved communication
5. Easier access to customer service

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by YankeeHotelFoxtrot

Accurate grading? Compared with the other two of the BIG 3, SGC is by far the most accurate.

Faster turnaround time? They are faster than any grading company out there. There were a few months last year when I was getting my cards back in two weeks.

Not sure what MORE SGC could do on those two points.

+1 Plus, SGC slabbed cards look far nicer.

[vthobby]

Originally Posted by Mark17

+1 Plus, SGC slabbed cards look far nicer.

Totally agree. Smart money also agrees!

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by YankeeHotelFoxtrot

Accurate grading? Compared with the other two of the BIG 3, SGC is by far the most accurate.

Just curious, did you notice they went literally from NOT including centering in their grade to using centering as one of the dominant factors in grading?

I just cant see how that's accurate grading. It's an opinion anyhow, but they've changed how they do opine, mind you without telling anyone, their entire method.

[vthobby]

Less than 30 days and $30 each! Amazing as always!

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[cammb]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

Maybe they will start to grade vintage accurately? They are just hammering.

+1

[aconte]

The registry thing would have happened years ago. It's not in the cards.

[Dead-Ball-Hitter]

Originally Posted by aconte

The registry thing would have happened years ago. It's not in the cards.

You might misunderstand Tony, they had a registry for many years, up until a couple years ago. Many of us want it to return. I had 700 cards in various SGC sets. It was maintained for a while on their old website even after they reinvented themselves. A registry is one of the keys to increasing interest in a company’s gradings - even BGS has one.

[Dead-Ball-Hitter]

SGC, I hope you are lurking in these forums!! You continue to have an opportunity here in the collecting community. Note many of the repeated responses:

1) A lower tiered price point is essential for true collectors. The modern card gradings will soon disappear as the modern card bubble bursts. Respect the vintage guys with a bulk submission rate.
2) You need a darn registry, giving folks more of a reason to buy your cards. If more cards are sold, better prices can be realized by sellers, causing more submissions ($$'s) to come your way.
3) Training in grading standards is a key. Be tough, be easy, I really don't care - just be CONSISTENT.
4) Lastly, many of us have been disenfranchised by PSA. We still buy cards in their holders, but love competition and options when spending hard earned money on fees.

[hcv123]

Originally Posted by Dead-Ball-Hitter

SGC, I hope you are lurking in these forums!! You continue to have an opportunity here in the collecting community. Note many of the repeated responses:

1) A lower tiered price point is essential for true collectors. The modern card gradings will soon disappear as the modern card bubble bursts. Respect the vintage guys with a bulk submission rate.
2) You need a darn registry, giving folks more of a reason to buy your cards. If more cards are sold, better prices can be realized by sellers, causing more submissions ($$'s) to come your way.
3) Training in grading standards is a key. Be tough, be easy, I really don't care - just be CONSISTENT.
4) Lastly, many of us have been disenfranchised by PSA. We still buy cards in their holders, but love competition and options when spending hard earned money on fees.

This!

[brewing]

Doesn’t CSG provide most of what’s being asked for here?

I’m guessing the desire for SGC to become what they once were is centered on the fact we have hundreds of cards already in their slabs.

I think it’s clear which collectors SGC is targeting and it isn’t the prewar collector.

[Dead-Ball-Hitter]

Originally Posted by brewing

Doesn’t CSG provide most of what’s being asked for here?

I’m guessing the desire for SGC to become what they once were is centered on the fact we have hundreds of cards already in their slabs.

I think it’s clear which collectors SGC is targeting and it isn’t the prewar collector.

Brent, nice point, you are probably right about the target audience… still think it’s shortsighted of them though. I’ll have to look at CSG more closely, they may be an option going forward. I heard they had some decent funding.

[wazoo]

Originally Posted by brewing

doesn’t csg provide most of what’s being asked for here?

I’m guessing the desire for sgc to become what they once were is centered on the fact we have hundreds of cards already in their slabs.

I think it’s clear which collectors sgc is targeting and it isn’t the prewar collector.

+1000.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by parkplace33

SCG grading company came out with a short video saying turnarounds times are 22 days and they are excited about new things in 2022. Any insight what they will be?

Maybe a registry

New video today on their site...https://www.gosgc.com/update-20210909

Two weeks later he is now claiming turnaround times were 16 days and the turnaround time will now show 45-50 days on the site but subs will not take that long. LOL. Hope that was not one of the exciting things Peter was referring to in the Dec video!

Again take as much time as you fellas need. How about getting the grades right. The public does not need their cards back fast. They need them back graded right.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

New video today on their site...https://www.gosgc.com/update-20210909

Two weeks later he is now claiming turnaround times were 16 days and the turnaround time will now show 45-50 days on the site but subs will not take that long. LOL. Hope that was not one of the exciting things Peter was referring to in the Dec video!

Again take as much time as you fellas need. How about getting the grades right. The public does not need their cards back fast. They need them back graded right.

Did he mention bringing back the guarantee?

[wazoo]

I wish the people at SGC knew how to respond to an email or phone call

My oh my does it seem like things have shifted.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Did he mention bringing back the guarantee?

Maybe that is one of the exciting things that are happening soon? Or...maybe not.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

Maybe that is one of the exciting things that are happening soon? Or...maybe not.

Maybe. I think it was in 2019 Peter told me they had just taken it down temporarily, their lawyers were reviewing the language, and it would be back up shortly.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Maybe. I think it was in 2019 Peter told me they had just taken it down temporarily, their lawyers were reviewing the language, and it would be back up shortly.

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only for a while or for the time being; not permanently.

Well we won't know until the end of time that it had not taken down temporarily but permanently.

Begs the question why a lawyer would have them remove their guarantee after all of these years. I mean the G in SGC does stand for guarantee, after all. Nice to see that accountability is removed at the top. Yet I read on here how collectors repeatedly expect auction houses to pick up altered cards in slabs.

What a seriously silly hobby this has become.

[prestigecollectibles]

[QUOTE=Lorewalker;2183550]New video today on their site...https://www.gosgc.com/update-20210909

This "new" video was posted September 8, 2021
Their website currently states that they are taking 45-50 estimated business days.

[vthobby]

[QUOTE=prestigecollectibles;2183757]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

New video today on their site...https://www.gosgc.com/update-20210909

This "new" video was posted September 8, 2021
Their website currently states that they are taking 45-50 estimated business days.

My last few submissions even over the holiday have taken about 1 month.

Large orders, small orders. They are clearly the only game in town right now if you want your cards back before your kids graduate from sollege.

30 days!

Business days? lol

30 days period!

Mike

[cgjackson222]

If I could have SGC change two things in 2022 it would be:

1) List the individual grades for surface, centering, corners and edging. They don't have to necessarily list it on the card itself (maybe the back of the card would work so the front can be less "busy") but I would really like to see this information somewhere, if just on the website itself when you enter the Auth Code #.

This would help in two ways:
a) provide some clarity and accountability for them so it doesn't seem like they are just coming up with a # out of thin air; and
b) when considering to buy an SGC slabbed card you could make a more informed decision. For instance, I am way more interested in the surface of a card, than in its edges, and would be able to seek out cards with high surface grades.

2) I wish they would return the card savers you sent with the original cards. I hate having to replace Card Savers, especially the big ones, like Card Saver 4.

Other than that, I have been pretty happy with SGC other than them grading a bit harshly on occasion

[cammb]

My order was received 12/12/21. Sent back 1/13/22. Pretty good.

[Jcosta19]

I have a 5 card sub recieved by them on Dec 14th.
Not graded yet, so definitely not 16, even if we are talking 16 business days.

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[Zan]

Heard the news through an SGC group.

Bulk sub prices are dropping from $25/card to $24/card

A $50/card 5 day submission is being implemented. Not sure how this will conflict with their service that takes 1-2 days, imo it pretty much makes it obsolete.

Idk, not that's excited about this one

[parkplace33]

Originally Posted by Zan

Heard the news through an SGC group.

Bulk sub prices are dropping from $25/card to $24/card

A $50/card 5 day submission is being implemented. Not sure how this will conflict with their service that takes 1-2 days, imo it pretty much makes it obsolete.

Idk, not that's excited about this one

A $50/card 5 day submission is being implemented. This one intrigues me and how much action they get. The knock on grading companies recently is turnaround times.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by parkplace33

A $50/card 5 day submission is being implemented. This one intrigues me and how much action they get. The knock on grading companies recently is turnaround times.

Makes sense that they did this. The difference in turnaround time was not worth the $220 per card price difference, imo.