T216 Kotton Cigarettes

[Leon]

So I am having another friendly conversation with a board member concerning some T216s. I notice SGC got one of them wrong, concerning the thin paper flip on it, and told the member about it. Today he said he emailed them and they said that it might have been printed on thin stock by accident.

And in case anyone doesn't know, this Bender is what a thin one looks like.

[edhans]

That one used to be mine. I pointed out the mistake to SGC when I got it. Don't think they ever did anything about it.

[Rhotchkiss]

There is a great thread here somewhere on T216s and the different backs, as well as possible front/combos that are likely available and likely unavailable, etc.

I think the T216 Kotton NGO "Never Go Out" and the T216 Virginia Extra are the thin paper examples, with MINO and the other T216 Kottons (1, 2, 3) and (Not in Trust) are on thicker paper. Likely, or at least in part, bc of the thin paper, I think the NGO Kottons tends to be rarer than the other two Kotton variations.

Some T216s - I dont have a simple NGO or Virginia Extra

[ullmandds]

speaking of THIN T216 Kottons...I'm in great need of this dots miller w/glove card. someone please help a guy in need...Steve!!!!!!

[Huck]

Nice cards. I have always liked the Kotton NGO cards. Great advertising.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by Huck

Nice cards. I have always liked the Kotton NGO cards. Great advertising.

+1 agree

[brianp-beme]

Never Go Out? Looks like not only did my Evers go out, but must have gone on a two week bender.

Brian

[ValKehl]

I need a T216 Kotton with this NGO back seen on my Gibson card for my Jennings back run. Does anyone know how/where I can find out if such a T216 Jennings card is even known to exist?

[RCMcKenzie]

Brian's Evers above is called "Type 3" by louisianacards.com, but I call that back "Type 1" along with Virginia Extra. The back Brian is showing, and Virginia Extra should have the same checklist. In other words, Evers could or should be found with a Virginia Extra back. Since I have these Type 2 Evers, he should be found with all 5 backs. I call Type 2, these 2 Kotton backs plus Mino. Steve is the resident sherpa on this set, and can answer any questions. Here is a link to some basic info on the backs. NGO and VE are thin, K2 K3 MINO, thick and glossy...i.e. similar to T213-1, 2, and 3. www.louisianacards.com/t216-kotton.html

[RCMcKenzie]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

I need a T216 Kotton with this NGO back seen on my Gibson card for my Jennings back run. Does anyone know how/where I can find out if such a T216 Jennings card is even known to exist?

If you have a Virginia Extra back, then it is possible to find the NGO thin back. I have not seen one, but it is possible.

[ullmandds]

Love it val

[ValKehl]

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

If you have a Virginia Extra back, then it is possible to find the NGO thin back. I have not seen one, but it is possible.

Rob, thanks for this info, and Pete, thanks for your kind words.

[Rhotchkiss]

That is an awesome back run Val. T206s get all the love, but your Jennings’ are proof that e-card back runs are mighty indeed.

[Pat R]

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[BuzzD]

I have a Hartzell T216. What is the relative scarcity of the back variations? I suspect there is already an old thread on this?

[gabrinus]

Great cards fellows!!...used to have some of them...Jerry

[Leon]

Originally Posted by BuzzD

I have a Hartzell T216. What is the relative scarcity of the back variations? I suspect there is already an old thread on this?

Personally I think your back (like this one) and the 1.2.3 back are about the same in rarity. The thin stock Never Go Out, as in the first post, is by far the rarest.

[Exhibitman]

Nothing to add, just impressed at how many of these extremely rare cards are in the hands of people here. Ryan, can I come over and play with your cards?

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Nothing to add, just impressed at how many of these extremely rare cards are in the hands of people here. Ryan, can I come over and play with your cards?

Ha! Please do. I cant get my kids to look/play with them and I would love to geek out with some other card nerds and look at, and play with, cards. However, Adam, it would be quite a commute for you.

Jerry, I would have loved to have seen your collection in its heyday.

[phlflyer1]

Still need the other two Kotton backs for my type collection but happy to have these for my "Philly" type collection.

[tedzan]

It's time for a friendly bump of this very interesting KOTTON thread.

So, here is my favorite "deadball" era player......

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TED Z

T206 Reference
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[edjs]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Jerry, I would have loved to have seen your collection in its heyday.

Ryan, I bet there are more than a few cards in your collection that were once in Jerry’s.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Ha! Please do. I cant get my kids to look/play with them and I would love to geek out with some other card nerds and look at, and play with, cards. However, Adam, it would be quite a commute for you.

Maybe if there's a Baltimore National again.

[asphaltman]

Great cards everyone, have always loved this issue.

[gabrinus]

Thanks for the kind words Ed and Ryan...believe me Ryan you have far exceeded what I dreamed of having...Jerry

[realbigfatdog]

Still haven't found a Mino or Virginia Extra of Prince Hal, but I was able to land these three.

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