Kashin Publication Premium

[Bobsbats]

Question: Bought a graded Hornsby Kashin Publication Premium, but cant find it any information on it anywhere. Does anyone else have one? or know any info on them?

Bob

[x2drich2000]

Definitely not common, but the Kashin premiums are out there. Most talk seems to focus around the Ruth for obvious reasons. They are often referred to as R316 5x7 photos. Some players are mistaken for W554, but they are different. Here's an old thread with some more: https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=160709

[Leon]

Thought I would just bump this thread. The premiums are super clear and focused. Wish I still had this one!!@ (I still own the half dollar)

Originally Posted by x2drich2000

Definitely not common, but the Kashin premiums are out there. Most talk seems to focus around the Ruth for obvious reasons. They are often referred to as R316 5x7 photos. Some players are mistaken for W554, but they are different. Here's an old thread with some more: https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=160709

[ValKehl]

One of my favorites in my Sam Rice collection:

[Leon]

What a great premium card ! The clarity and focus are off the charts.

Originally Posted by ValKehl

One of my favorites in my Sam Rice collection:

[buymycards]

It is strange that they aren't listed in the Standard Catalog.

[Tom S.]

Originally Posted by buymycards

It is strange that they aren't listed in the Standard Catalog.

Like DJ mentioned earlier, these premiums are often referred to R316 5"x7" photos. That's how they are listed in my 2013 Edition of the Standard Catalog.

[buymycards]

Originally Posted by Tom S.

Like DJ mentioned earlier, these premiums are often referred to R316 5"x7" photos. That's how they are listed in my 2013 Edition of the Standard Catalog.

My 2011 Standard Catalog shows 1929 Kashin Publications R316. 3 1/2" x 4 1/2". There is no mention of the 5x7 premiums.

I have the 2011 Standard Catalog and the 2011 Vintage Standard Catalog. Both have the same info.

Maybe it is time for me to purchase a new Standard Catalog. My 2011 is really beat up because I use it constantly, so I did get my money's worth from it.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by buymycards

My 2011 Standard Catalog shows 1929 Kashin Publications R316. 3 1/2" x 4 1/2". There is no mention of the 5x7 premiums.

I have the 2011 Standard Catalog and the 2011 Vintage Standard Catalog. Both have the same info.

Maybe it is time for me to purchase a new Standard Catalog. My 2011 is really beat up because I use it constantly, so I did get my money's worth from it.

Lemke (RIP) used to send me signed copies of the SCD every year just for running the board. He was such a great hobbyist. He is on my mount rushmore of the hobby.

Here are some regular Kashins I used to own, because threads need more pics.

[triwak]

Absolutely!!

[Bobsbats]

I appreciate all of the information that you guys gave! As always, this board is a wealth of knowledge.
Thrilled to have the Hornsby, and a Simmons on a regular Kashin.



Simmons A. R316 front.jpg

Bob

[timn1]

Hi Bob,

I know a fair bit about this issue - though not everything. What do you want to know? Feel free to email me-

Tim

[LACardsGuy]

I sold my Foxx rookie a few months back (along with most of my rookie HOF collection) to try to get money together for a house downpayment. It was very cool, and wonder if I'll ever find another one.

[leftygrove10]

Here is the Lefty Grove R316 premium. Bought it from a dealer in NY named Bob many years ago. (I can't remember his last name at the moment, but Bob died about 10 years ago.) He listed it for sale in the SCD as a large variation of the R316. I guess it wasn't in the catalog at that point. I seem to remember paying $75 for it at the time. I consider that a bargain, given that I haven't seen another since. (Although I am sure that other Grove's exist.)

[Tom S.]

Here's mine from my type set...

[GeoPoto]

This is not Premium, and all I got.
https://net54baseball.com/attachment...1&d=1584707108

[the-illini]

Love these, whatever they are - here are a couple of the ones I have

[Marckus99]

Funny, several years ago picked up a Hack Wilson premium....
And thought it was just a regular R316.
Still learning after all these years. Lol

Can’t seem to post a scan. :/

[Bobsbats]

Originally Posted by timn1

Hi Bob,

I know a fair bit about this issue - though not everything. What do you want to know? Feel free to email me-

Tim

Tim,

To be honest, I couldn't find them in the SCD Catalog and I picked up a Hornsby in an auction for the minimum, because I thought it was cool, but had no idea regarding value, or even if they were listed somewhere. Thanks to most of the guys here, they've answered most of those questions....do they have a premium when it comes to price?

[Tom S.]

The difference in prices for the two shown in my 2013 Standard Catalog of Vintage Baseball Cards are interesting...

A regular Kashin common (pgs. 227-8) is listed at $12 in VG, $20 in EX, and $40 in NM.

A 5"x7" Premium common (pgs. 346-7) is listed at $15 in VG, 25 in EX, and $50 in NM.

To me, the prices for the premiums should be a lot higher due to their scarcity when compared to the regular Kashin issue. Maybe things have changed in the last 7 years?

(BTW, the Hornsby premium is only listed at $25 in VG, $45 in EX, and $90 in NM, while the regular Kashin Hornsby is listed at $50 in VG, $85 in EX, and $175 in NM.)

[glchen]

Here's the one that Leon used to own, crossed to PSA. And a Gehrig also.

[timn1]

Anybody who wants to sell me 5x7 premiums at the prices below, I've got cash ready for ya!

Seriously, I would say the premiums generally go for 3x4 times those prices now, depending on player. '

The Hornsby listing you quote is just a flat-out error, even in 2013.

Originally Posted by Tom S.

The difference in prices for the two shown in my 2013 Standard Catalog of Vintage Baseball Cards are interesting...

A regular Kashin common (pgs. 227-8) is listed at $12 in VG, $20 in EX, and $40 in NM.

A 5"x7" Premium common (pgs. 346-7) is listed at $15 in VG, 25 in EX, and $50 in NM.

To me, the prices for the premiums should be a lot higher due to their scarcity when compared to the regular Kashin issue. Maybe things have changed in the last 7 years?

(BTW, the Hornsby premium is only listed at $25 in VG, $45 in EX, and $90 in NM, while the regular Kashin Hornsby is listed at $50 in VG, $85 in EX, and $175 in NM.)

[lumberjack]

Charles Conlon seems to be the source for these images. His stamped/signed prototypes turn up in auctions. Quite often the art department messed with them by coloring in the eyes, that sort of thing. RMY has one in his current auction.
lumberjack

[Leon]

Originally Posted by glchen

Here's the one that Leon used to own, crossed to PSA. And a Gehrig also.

I miss him. What a great photo!