N173 cabinet question

[hcv123]

I am thinking about purchasing these and am way out of my element. What would be a fair price to pay?

[ullmandds]

Damn!!!!!

[Leon]

nice cards. I think we might have some 19th century guys who will know more but I would say about 750 for the player and close to 10k (or more) for the cabinet. But don't take my guesses to heart. Others will know more.

[packs]

The player is Connie Mack.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by packs

The player is Connie Mack.

Woops, my mistake. Make that about 5k+ for the Mack then.....

[asphaltman]

I was going to say the same thing - $5k plus for the Mack...looks to be in pretty good shape and $15k-20k for the Brooklyn team cabinet IMO.

[drcy]

Can't quote a price, but quality stuff.

[ctownboy]

OK, what's the story behind the find? Are they new to the collecting world or just out of some old time collection?

David

[dbrown]

New to the collecting world. Part of a larger group.

OP did not out the source so I will not either. (But it's not that obscure.)

[benjulmag]

I suspect the Mack will go well north of $5k. I am aware of only two others, and one of them (the fielding pose) does not have very good contrast. Despite that it sold for $13,900 in 2001. The other known one purportedly originated from the Mack family; it sold at auction for around $30K, again about 20 years ago. it is not surprising the card is so rare. Mack was not regarded as a prominent player and there was likely little demand for his cabinet card. Both of the other cards have brown mounts.

[hcv123]

I invite anyone who has more to add.

[ullmandds]

40K for the pair would be a decent price...imo.

[griffon512]

Regarding the Mack, as Corey mentioned one has not come up for auction in recent memory so the price has a very high ceiling for 19th Century collectors. It's in arguably the most desirable 19th Century set with a few well-heeled collectors potentially bidding very high on it just to have it in their collection as it is not likely to come up again. Given that I can easily see 2-3 collectors getting in a bidding war and it going for $25,000+.

[Bicem]

Can't wait to hear what the OP got them for!

[GaryPassamonte]

These cards and many other OJ cabinets are in an upcoming Weiss Auction per a thread on the BIN section.

[packs]

Forgot I had the junior version of that Mack

[ramram]

Originally Posted by packs

Forgot I had the junior version of that Mack

you FORGOT you had it??


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[Fred]

$42K for Mack

The McPhee sold for $57.5K - then the auction just got stupid. There must have been two guys beating each other down trying to show each other that they can swing a paddle..... so much for trying to pick up a nice card at a somewhat obscure auction.... I think the winners actually showed up at the auction site rather than logged in on a computer. I was watching the bidding and just about crapped my pants when I saw some of the prices being realized.

[Fred]

The N173 Ewing in street clothes had the highest hammer at $95K. It would have been interesting to actually be at the auction to watch two people beat on each other like that.

[h2oya311]

Originally Posted by Fred

$42K for Mack

The McPhee sold for $57.5K - then the auction just got stupid. There must have been two guys beating each other down trying to show each other that they can swing a paddle..... so much for trying to pick up a nice card at a somewhat obscure auction.... I think the winners actually showed up at the auction site rather than logged in on a computer. I was watching the bidding and just about crapped my pants when I saw some of the prices being realized.

was just about to type the exact same thing...and to think that I though I'd sneak in and win the McPhee with a bid under $10k! Oops! There were at least three bidding on McPhee. And one guy was online...s***k. His bids make me s**k! Who has that kind of money to swing around? A lottery winner?

[paul]

The McPhee was one of three known. One is in a museum, and one had missing paper on the front, right on his face. I believe there is a board member who is trying to get all of the N173 Hall of Famers, so this was his only shot at McPhee.

The Ewing portrait is one of a kind. A Kelly portrait recently sold for $63K, so the Ewing price is not that much of a surprise.

I had a fantasy of winning one of these cards at under 10K. But it was only a fantasy.

[OldOriole]

I think the days of getting an Old Judge Cabinet for under $1,000 are just about gone. Out of the 35 cards offered, only one went for under a grand..and it went for $950 before the juice.

Although it's pricing me out, I'm glad to see the N173's getting their due as they are so rare (often one of a kind or just a handful known) and really eye pleasing. They should be fetching high prices.

Even non-player cards did well like the mascot ($2,800), and Mutrie (also $2,800).

The Joseph Hall cabinets actually stayed in a range as expected, with the Brooklyn team card going for $9,500 and the Louisville card going for $13.5K.

Here were the biggest buys were (everything over $10K before BP):

1) Ewing (portrait) - $95,000
2) McPhee -$57,500
3) Mack -$42,000 - Corey and Griffon called it.
4) Hanlon -$30,000
5) Radbourn -$25,000
6) Ewing (w/mascot) -$11,000

On the other end, a Keefe went for $3,900 and a Welch for $4,000.

Biggest bid for an N173 of a non-Hall of Famer was Whitney (w/ dog) at $8,500. That's if you don't count the gorgeous Peeples card with the black mount - it went for $9,000.

Really nice material...

[paul]

O'Day is a Hall of Famer. He was elected as an umpire.

[RCMcKenzie]

Did y'all win any? I got the Germany Smith at a good price. It helped that the Smith was auctioned early. Fun auction and it was smart for them to post in the bst. Rob

[OldOriole]

Originally Posted by paul

O'Day is a Hall of Famer. He was elected as an umpire.

Sorry, Paul, I wasn't thinking about umpires...good catch. I've made the change in my earlier post.

[Fred]

That O'Day has seen much better days. The top appeared to be soiled. They still got a decent price on it.

[packs]

I couldn't figure out how to bid in this auction, or whether I could bid without being there. What did the Whitney with Dog go for?

[Baseball Rarities]

Originally Posted by packs

I couldn't figure out how to bid in this auction, or whether I could bid without being there. What did the Whitney with Dog go for?

Yes, you could bid live online. I did not bid, but watched most of the sale. The Whitney and Dog sold for $8,500 plus the juice.

[the-illini]

Originally Posted by packs

I couldn't figure out how to bid in this auction, or whether I could bid without being there. What did the Whitney with Dog go for?

8500 before BP

[packs]

The most expensive dog I've ever known.

[bigfish]

Certainly saw some spirited bidding today at the Weiss auction. Very strong prices. Congrats Phil!

[the-illini]

I won this one - all my main targets were long out of reach but not a bad consolation prize at the price I got it for

[Scocs]

How do you see prices realized on that site? I see the cards but not bids or prices?

[RCMcKenzie]

Congrats, Chris, nice image on that one.

To view on invaluable.com you need to log in to see prices. The auction should show up in "past auctions" searches after today.

[Scocs]

Why can’t you view prices realized on the actual Weiss Auctions page?

[Leon]

Congrats to the AH. Apparently I don't know poop about Old Judge cabinet pricing. Maybe the 2-3 guys spending the big bucks are getting older and they want them before they croak. rat bastar#$%s (envy) Great group of cards and congrats to whomever did nab some of them. I have a funny feeling who it might have been....maybe 3-4 of our members anyway.