N173 cabinet question
 

I am thinking about purchasing these and am way out of my element. What would be a fair price to pay?

Damn!!!!!

nice cards. I think we might have some 19th century guys who will know more but I would say about 750 for the player and close to 10k (or more) for the cabinet. But don't take my guesses to heart. Others will know more.

The player is Connie Mack.

Woops, my mistake. Make that about 5k+ for the Mack then.....

I was going to say the same thing - $5k plus for the Mack...looks to be in pretty good shape and $15k-20k for the Brooklyn team cabinet IMO.

Can't quote a price, but quality stuff.

OK, what's the story behind the find? Are they new to the collecting world or just out of some old time collection?

David

New to the collecting world. Part of a larger group.

OP did not out the source so I will not either. (But it's not that obscure.)

I suspect the Mack will go well north of $5k. I am aware of only two others, and one of them (the fielding pose) does not have very good contrast. Despite that it sold for $13,900 in 2001. The other known one purportedly originated from the Mack family; it sold at auction for around $30K, again about 20 years ago. it is not surprising the card is so rare. Mack was not regarded as a prominent player and there was likely little demand for his cabinet card. Both of the other cards have brown mounts.

Thank you everyone for the replies
 

I invite anyone who has more to add.

40K for the pair would be a decent price...imo.

high ceiling on the Mack
 

Regarding the Mack, as Corey mentioned one has not come up for auction in recent memory so the price has a very high ceiling for 19th Century collectors. It's in arguably the most desirable 19th Century set with a few well-heeled collectors potentially bidding very high on it just to have it in their collection as it is not likely to come up again. Given that I can easily see 2-3 collectors getting in a bidding war and it going for $25,000+.

Can't wait to hear what the OP got them for!

These cards and many other OJ cabinets are in an upcoming Weiss Auction per a thread on the BIN section.

Forgot I had the junior version of that Mack

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1974/...153c9b3f_z.jpg

you FORGOT you had it?? :eek:


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$42K for Mack

The McPhee sold for $57.5K - then the auction just got stupid. There must have been two guys beating each other down trying to show each other that they can swing a paddle..... so much for trying to pick up a nice card at a somewhat obscure auction.... I think the winners actually showed up at the auction site rather than logged in on a computer. I was watching the bidding and just about crapped my pants when I saw some of the prices being realized.

The N173 Ewing in street clothes had the highest hammer at $95K. It would have been interesting to actually be at the auction to watch two people beat on each other like that.

was just about to type the exact same thing...and to think that I though I'd sneak in and win the McPhee with a bid under $10k! Oops! There were at least three bidding on McPhee. And one guy was online...s***k. His bids make me s**k! Who has that kind of money to swing around? A lottery winner?

The McPhee was one of three known. One is in a museum, and one had missing paper on the front, right on his face. I believe there is a board member who is trying to get all of the N173 Hall of Famers, so this was his only shot at McPhee.

The Ewing portrait is one of a kind. A Kelly portrait recently sold for $63K, so the Ewing price is not that much of a surprise.

I had a fantasy of winning one of these cards at under 10K. But it was only a fantasy.

Wow
 

I think the days of getting an Old Judge Cabinet for under $1,000 are just about gone. Out of the 35 cards offered, only one went for under a grand..and it went for $950 before the juice.

Although it's pricing me out, I'm glad to see the N173's getting their due as they are so rare (often one of a kind or just a handful known) and really eye pleasing. They should be fetching high prices.

Even non-player cards did well like the mascot ($2,800), and Mutrie (also $2,800).

The Joseph Hall cabinets actually stayed in a range as expected, with the Brooklyn team card going for $9,500 and the Louisville card going for $13.5K.

Here were the biggest buys were (everything over $10K before BP):

1) Ewing (portrait) - $95,000
2) McPhee -$57,500
3) Mack -$42,000 - Corey and Griffon called it.
4) Hanlon -$30,000
5) Radbourn -$25,000
6) Ewing (w/mascot) -$11,000

On the other end, a Keefe went for $3,900 and a Welch for $4,000.

Biggest bid for an N173 of a non-Hall of Famer was Whitney (w/ dog) at $8,500. That's if you don't count the gorgeous Peeples card with the black mount - it went for $9,000.

Really nice material...

O'Day is a Hall of Famer. He was elected as an umpire.

Did y'all win any? I got the Germany Smith at a good price. It helped that the Smith was auctioned early. Fun auction and it was smart for them to post in the bst. Rob

Umpire
 

Sorry, Paul, I wasn't thinking about umpires...good catch. I've made the change in my earlier post.

That O'Day has seen much better days. The top appeared to be soiled. They still got a decent price on it.

I couldn't figure out how to bid in this auction, or whether I could bid without being there. What did the Whitney with Dog go for?

Yes, you could bid live online. I did not bid, but watched most of the sale. The Whitney and Dog sold for $8,500 plus the juice.

8500 before BP

The most expensive dog I've ever known.

N173
 

Certainly saw some spirited bidding today at the Weiss auction. Very strong prices. Congrats Phil!

I won this one - all my main targets were long out of reach but not a bad consolation prize at the price I got it for

How do you see prices realized on that site? I see the cards but not bids or prices?

Congrats, Chris, nice image on that one.

To view on invaluable.com you need to log in to see prices. The auction should show up in "past auctions" searches after today.

Why can’t you view prices realized on the actual Weiss Auctions page?

Congrats to the AH. Apparently I don't know poop about Old Judge cabinet pricing. Maybe the 2-3 guys spending the big bucks are getting older and they want them before they croak. :) rat bastar#$%s (envy) Great group of cards and congrats to whomever did nab some of them. I have a funny feeling who it might have been....maybe 3-4 of our members anyway.