Deans sport cards

[g_vezina_c55]

Who buy cards from this shop ?
Everytime i look on their website everything is overpriced.
The inventory is big but .....

[jason.1969]

When I got back into collected, I filled most of the holes in my collection thru Dean's.

I didn't know about N54, and I was a bit too gunshy for eBay. While I probably could have saved $10 a card via other sellers, I liked the selection and the sense that I was buying from a real dealer.

Now mind you my aims were raw and generally lesser condition cards in the $15-40 range. So convenience, selection, and trust meant more than price.

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[g_vezina_c55]

as an example. i am in the market for a 1954 dan dee mantle card in psa 1
he have one priced at 1000 $ ...... that card sell for arround 450 .....
i missed something ?

[darkhorse9]

Originally Posted by g_vezina_c55

as an example. i am in the market for a 1954 dan dee mantle card in psa 1
he have one priced at 1000 $ ...... that card sell for arround 450 .....
i missed something ?

There may very well be one person who will buy that card for $1k. That's all they need. Just one person.

[ALR-bishop]

His book on the Topps and Bowman competition for the card market is a good read

[g_vezina_c55]

Yep i has fun to read the book

[swarmee]

Dean's is pretty strange, but I have bought some cards from him over the years. Each of his vintage autographed cards I have purchased have been authenticated by PSA, so that's good.
He also has his stock on COMC, so it gives me more options for purchasing with COMC store credit instead of taking a cashout fee.

However, his 1952 Topps Mantle nice PSA 2 was $16,600 last week and is now listed for $27,500. I figure that's because he was trying to shop it at the National and didn't want it to sell too cheap.

[swarmee]

Post National, Dean's has changed the price of the 1952 Mantle PSA 2 on COMC to $18,400.

[Jim65]

Not to beat a dead horse, but Deans has this torn in half and taped back together Seaver rookie listed on eBay for $395

[ALR-bishop]

He should hire Battlefield to do his scans

[ALR-bishop]

Maybe he should hire Battlefield to do his scans

[Mountaineer1999]

The Twice the Price Store! Why pay retail when you can buy at twice the price?

[brewing]

Originally Posted by Mountaineer1999

The Twice the Price Store! Why pay retail when you can buy at twice the price?

Funny you say this. When I'm looking at an item, I use Deans as a price gauge. My top price begins at half of what Deans is charging.

[56Horsehide]

He is "proud" of his cards. No doubt about that.

Jim

[Zach Wheat]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

His book on the Topps and Bowman competition for the card market is a good read

What was the name of the book?

Z

[ALR-bishop]

The Bubble Gum Card War: The Great Bowman And Topps Sets From 1948 To 1955... 2012.

There are a couple on eBay now

[Volod]

Originally Posted by brewing

Funny you say this. When I'm looking at an item, I use Deans as a price gauge. My top price begins at half of what Deans is charging.

Gauge versus gouge?

[kailes2872]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

The Bubble Gum Card War: The Great Bowman And Topps Sets From 1948 To 1955... 2012.

There are a couple on eBay now

Ordered yesterday based upon your reco - it will be here Wednesday. Can't Wait!

[OsFan]

Reading it now, fun read. Just finished Mint Condition by Dave Jamieson, also great.

[kailes2872]

Originally Posted by OsFan

Reading it now, fun read. Just finished Mint Condition by Dave Jamieson, also great.

Got it in the mail this afternoon. Just finished reading it. While it did not feel like there was a ton of new information that I did not know, I did not really think about just how big of an underdog Topps was coming out of the 324 card 1951 set. On top of that, Bowman had the majority of the stars and guys that we celebrate now in the '54 & '55 sets (especially '55 as Clemente, Killebrew, and Koufax did not appear in an ASG until '59) were not highly thought of at the time.

It took the beautiful mind of Sy Berger and the beautiful cards of '52-'55 Topps to somehow win the hearts, minds, and nickels of young boys across America. What is even more amazing is that the '53 Bowman set was made during this time and it is largely considered the most beautiful post war set of all time - yet Bowman still couldn't win (with the star advantage). I think that the '55 TV set is underrated - as Color TV was such a novel concept at the time. It would be like having an Iphone set in 2005 when folks were still figuring it out at the time.

Quick, inexpensive read and well worth the time and small investment. My only criticism is the lack of pictures as they describe the cards. I had to pull some out to compare as he was describing in print. It could have been a copyright issue - so no worries - just felt that was the only thing missing.

[Zach Wheat]

Originally Posted by kailes2872

Got it in the mail this afternoon. Just finished reading it. While it did not feel like there was a ton of new information that I did not know, I did not really think about just how big of an underdog Topps was coming out of the 324 card 1951 set. On top of that, Bowman had the majority of the stars and guys that we celebrate now in the '54 & '55 sets (especially '55 as Clemente, Killebrew, and Koufax did not appear in an ASG until '59) were not highly thought of at the time.

It took the beautiful mind of Sy Berger and the beautiful cards of '52-'55 Topps to somehow win the hearts, minds, and nickels of young boys across America. What is even more amazing is that the '53 Bowman set was made during this time and it is largely considered the most beautiful post war set of all time - yet Bowman still couldn't win (with the star advantage). I think that the '55 TV set is underrated - as Color TV was such a novel concept at the time. It would be like having an Iphone set in 2005 when folks were still figuring it out at the time.

Quick, inexpensive read and well worth the time and small investment. My only criticism is the lack of pictures as they describe the cards. I had to pull some out to compare as he was describing in print. It could have been a copyright issue - so no worries - just felt that was the only thing missing.

Agreed. I bought both Dean's book and the Jamieson book. I did not realize how much an underdog Topps was going into the '52 season. Bowman obviously underestimated the effort Topps would put into that set as well.

Interesting reads.

[irv]

Originally Posted by g_vezina_c55

Who buy cards from this shop ?
Everytime i look on their website everything is overpriced.
The inventory is big but .....

Dean's is not the only one. I have also seen BMW with some crazy, over the top asking prices and always wondered how places like this stay in business?
(Guess they are doing something right?)

At the Toronto card and memorabilia Expo, BMW was right at the entrance. All of his 52 Topps cards were graded by KSA, which I found odd as BMW are based in the U.S.?

Like the cards in this link, his prices at the show were over the top as well, but like Dean's, and anyone else, they are free to ask whatever they want.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/bmw_cards2/...1&_ipg=&_from=

[jason.1969]

I actually had a quite good experience with BMW. The asking price on a card I wanted was exorbitant, but I worked out what I feel was a fair deal with them. Like all of their stuff eBay, it was OBO, and I will say they really lived up to the true meaning of the term.

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[irv]

Originally Posted by jason.1969

I actually had a quite good experience with BMW. The asking price on a card I wanted was exorbitant, but I worked out what I feel was a fair deal with them. Like all of their stuff eBay, it was OBO, and I will say they really lived up to the true meaning of the term.

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His cards, in those KSA holders, looked mint and were graded by KSA as such (8's & 9's) but they were being very generous, imo, when it came to cards with qualifiers, namely OC.
He had a Richie Ashburn, that was severely OC but I was willing to accept it if the price was right.
I inquired, of course, and when he said $500 U.S. I knew there was no way in h*ll I was going to get it for the $100 I was willing to spend so I didn't even bother negotiating with him.
Some of his better centered, star cards were priced well above that $500 mark, (into the thousands) and although they were nice to look at, they were nowhere near worth those prices.
The KSA grading bothered me too. I knew about their rep, plus it struck me odd as to why someone in the states would send their cards north to have them graded, by a suspect company, nonetheless, when PSA, SGC and Beckett all resided state side?
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1952-Topps-31...0AAOSwImRYNxRa

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by Mountaineer1999

The Twice the Price Store! Why pay retail when you can buy at twice the price?

I'd say that hits the nail right on the head.

May collecting bring you joy,

Larry

[glynparson]

But he makes me blush at the pricing sometimes. To his credit though he has purchased cards from me and unless i am blowing out accumulated stuff out that I don't want i am expensive on quality and tougher to find cards. The easy stuff is where his prices are really crazy in my honest opinion. But to his credit he has bought cards from me several times, and like I said earlier I am expensive on the types of cards he bought. SO I don't mind it as much as someone who wants to pay 10% raw beckett for your nm+ cards Then try to sell them back to you telling you they are gem mint and not budging.

[Bigdaddy]

Nice...two for the price of one.

Originally Posted by Jim65

Not to beat a dead horse, but Deans has this torn in half and taped back together Seaver rookie listed on eBay for $395