Legendary Auctions

[AddieJoss]

Their shipping charges are the worst in the industry.

Last year I won a 20k card in one of their auctions and the shipping was $90. At the time I thought it was kinda high but paid without issue.

In their most recent auction I won the E107 Joss for $8500, I expected the 19.5% buyer's premium, but then they tagged me with another $102.29 for shipping, handling, and insurance. It comes out to another 1.2%.

I inquired why the shipping charges more than doubled from last year and are so pricey. Their shipping manager stated it was a management decision. He said they now charge $.80 per $100 for insurance. That is very expensive, and then tack on more fees/costs.

Folks may want to consider factoring this into their bidding looking forward. Knowing that bidders will need to factor this into their bidding, I'd seriously consider other auction houses for listing my cards since you won't get top dollar, in my opinion.

Cory Weiser

[LKeeler]

You are right, Cory. I bought a card for around $700 (without buyer's fee) and the shipping on it is $22. Nothing close to what you paid, but was definitely eye opening to me and I will have to "adjust accordingly" in the future. BTW, the Joss was awesome!

[scooter729]

I refrained from bidding on a lower-end card in overtime in this auction because it potentially would have been the only item I won, and I didn't feel like paying $30 shipping on a $300 card.

It got no other bids, so their outrageous shipping charges cost that consignor at least an extra $25.

[Big Dave]

Well, since these guys aren't called Mastro anymore, they have to make it somewhere instead of shill bids, if they have actually quit that.

[bobbyw8469]

I don't get it! I recently paid $13 for one raw card to be shipped to me from one of those big auction house companies that ended last week. Meanwhile I just got 2 '2's' for shipping and handling charges on Ebay for two graded cards. I charged the buyer $3.50 for the first card and .50 cents for the second card, for a grand total of $4.00!!! Now, because of those 2's, Ebay is giving me a hassle, saying that I am a POS seller and threatining to kick me off. Thanks buddy!! You've been blocked permanently!!!! Oh the irony....

[jhs5120]

I was charged $65 for my shipment. I bought several raw lots and a PSA registry set. It's a bit high, but not horrible.

[packs]

Is there anything illegal about inflating costs that the USPS set as standard? Is that a type of fraud? Is it legal to make money using the USPS shipping service? Just curious.

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Don't know why it would be fraud.

[Stonepony]

Originally Posted by packs

Is there anything illegal about inflating costs that the USPS set as standard? Is that a type of fraud? Is it legal to make money using the USPS shipping service? Just curious.

It's shipping and handling. It's the handling part that is subjective and can be wildly manipulated .

[packs]

Ah, I didn't think of the handling. I only thought it could potentially be fraud because if the USPS states insurance costs X amount and you charge Y amount, that may be against some kind of government regulation.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by packs

Ah, I didn't think of the handling. I only thought it could potentially be fraud because if the USPS states insurance costs X amount and you charge Y amount, that may be against some kind of government regulation.

In my experience they don't ship USPS.

[jhs5120]

It's not fraud, it's just how they conduct their business.

If they want to nickel and dime someone who spent a few grand on baseball cards then I guess that's their choice.

[AddieJoss]

Over $100 to ship 1 card. How much "handling" is going on? I'm the one getting handled.

It reminds me when you buy car and the dealer tacks on a bunch or BS fees after you make a deal.

[Cat]

[bobfreedman]

Here are actual Postage Rates from the USPS site:
$0.01 to $50 = $1.95
50.01 to 100 = 2.45
100.01 to 200 = 3.05
200.01 to 300 = 5.10
300.01 to 400 = 6.25
400.01 to 500 = 6.40
500.01 to 600 = 8.55
600.01 to 5,000 = $8.55 plus $1.15 per $100 or fraction thereof over $600 in declared value
(maximum liability is $5000)

You can see for yourself that they are charging you an accurate and fair rate, They use our shipping calculator that goes to the service that they use (UPS, USPS etc...) and gets real time prices for shipping. Based on this table (which is pretty standard for all services, you would pay $92 for an $8000 item.

Did you look at the web site and see for yourself what the rates would be or did you just get upset at having to pay that amount?

DISCLAIMER: I run Legendary's software and provide the SW for many of the auction companies

Bob Freedman
www.simpleauctionsite.com

[Edwolf1963]

Originally Posted by bobfreedman

Here are actual Postage Rates from the USPS site:
$0.01 to $50 = $1.95
50.01 to 100 = 2.45
100.01 to 200 = 3.05
200.01 to 300 = 5.10
300.01 to 400 = 6.25
400.01 to 500 = 6.40
500.01 to 600 = 8.55
600.01 to 5,000 = $8.55 plus $1.15 per $100 or fraction thereof over $600 in declared value
(maximum liability is $5000)

You can see for yourself that they are charging you an accurate and fair rate, They use our shipping calculator that goes to the service that they use (UPS, USPS etc...) and gets real time prices for shipping. Based on this table (which is pretty standard for all services, you would pay $92 for an $8000 item.

Did you look at the web site and see for yourself what the rates would be or did you just get upset at having to pay that amount?

DISCLAIMER: I run Legendary's software and provide the SW for many of the auction companies

Bob Freedman
www.simpleauctionsite.com

I agree with the initial post, Legendary is the highest in the business. They may use your calculator, Bob - but then they tack on quite a bit from there. I have had $20+ s/h for cards under $500. I thought it was in error at first and questioned. They told me they charge (amongst other things) an extra $5 "processing fee" because they "ship in a box" (vs. an envelope). I actually pulled the phone away from my ear at that point and looked at it not believing what I was hearing. Mindless defensive babble. Take it out of your industry-leading commission then.

It's not about a few bucks to me, it's the principle - it strikes a bad chord bcse of the nerve and greed of it all. The sheer stupidity of trying to fleece customers for a few extra bucks and risk alienating them and as well as other prospective consignment and buying customers via these posts here and in other forums. I'd had enough, I told them to cancel my account.

[toledo_mudhen]

Originally Posted by packs

Ah, I didn't think of the handling. I only thought it could potentially be fraud because if the USPS states insurance costs X amount and you charge Y amount, that may be against some kind of government regulation.

We can have the government get right on that - coming up with another regulation. Far too few in my opinion.

[packs]

On Legendary's site they state that they ship FedEx ground and not USPS.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Edwolf1963

.....

It's not about a few bucks to me, it's the principle - it strikes a bad chord bcse of the nerve and greed of it all. The sheer stupidity of trying to fleece customers for a few extra bucks and risk alienating them and as well as other prospective consignment and buying customers via these posts here and in other forums. I'd had enough, I told them to cancel my account.

I had an auction company charge me $7 for grading of a consignment not too long ago. (I consign a few things here and there) That $7 charge might have cost them a lot of money, principle it is. It certainly will make me think more about a big future decision. I don't think some AH's understand "principle"....

[danmckee]

I am looking at my bill now. I get mad as hell when I get raped on shipping charges. I have yelled at my friend John burk and Steve Verkman and Pistol Pete Calderon over this from time to time and they have always corrected it for me.

Now my Legendary invoice has $26.28 shipping on it for about $885 in goodies but I see I won a partial set so I am actually ok with this one.

These large companies also usually have a shipping department which causes more overhead than you or me packing ebay at home.

Dan

[auggiedoggy]

Originally Posted by AddieJoss

Their shipping charges are the worst in the industry.

Last year I won a 20k card in one of their auctions and the shipping was $90. At the time I thought it was kinda high but paid without issue.

In their most recent auction I won the E107 Joss for $8500, I expected the 19.5% buyer's premium, but then they tagged me with another $102.29 for shipping, handling, and insurance. It comes out to another 1.2%.

I inquired why the shipping charges more than doubled from last year and are so pricey. Their shipping manager stated it was a management decision. He said they now charge $.80 per $100 for insurance. That is very expensive, and then tack on more fees/costs.

Folks may want to consider factoring this into their bidding looking forward. Knowing that bidders will need to factor this into their bidding, I'd seriously consider other auction houses for listing my cards since you won't get top dollar, in my opinion.

Cory Weiser

Only $0.80 per $100.00? Canada Post charges $2.05 per additional $100.00 coverage.

[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by danmckee

I am looking at my bill now. I get mad as hell when I get raped on shipping charges. I have yelled at my friend John burk and Steve Verkman and Pistol Pete Calderon over this from time to time and they have always corrected it for me.

Now my Legendary invoice has $26.28 shipping on it for about $885 in goodies but I see I won a partial set so I am actually ok with this one.

These large companies also usually have a shipping department which causes more overhead than you or me packing ebay at home.

Dan

That seems okay. I won a single card, for less than half that price and was billed $18.67 for shipping. That's about $5 more than I was expecting. I'll just figure that in next time. That'll probably drop me by one bid increment on a few things but not at all on most of them.