Is SGC changing their label?

[lancemountain]

I'm not sure if my chain is getting yanked or not. I have not been able to find any info that SGC is changing their label

[lancemountain]

[bobbyw8469]

I have heard no such thing. Very odd.....

[Jay Wolt]

I heard awhile ago they had planned to change their holder but haven't heard anything about changing the flip

[ullmandds]

God I hope that's a joke...if they're switching to that lame flip...I'm going back to raw!!!!

[the 'stache]

I started a topic about this over on SGC's forum to get a definitive answer.

BTW, their Wild Card special from October is carrying over to November. $7 per card on any card valued at $250 or less. 10 day turn around. Woo hoo!

[joeadcock]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

God I hope that's a joke...if they're switching to that lame flip...I'm going back to raw!!!!

Yeah, doesn't look too hot.

[pencil1974]

I just got an order from them that arrived Saturday that was graded last week and its the same flip as before. So I would say no they are not changing it.

[e107collector]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

God I hope that's a joke...if they're switching to that lame flip...I'm going back to raw!!!!

Pete I agree, that flip looks horrible.

Let's hope this is a joke.

Tony

[Fred]

You know, they read the board so maybe they'll look at that but if they purchased a large quantity of them then I don't think they'll change for a while.

Perhaps in this industry the business owners don't do market research to see what people would like a label to look like. Yeah, that label does look a bit unappealing.

Regardless of how it looks, I think I'd still stick with SGC over PSA, even if the flip looks a bit uglier.

I bet SGC is happy they didn't grade that first Wags card...., if they did, they'd have given it the AUTH indication... oh yeah, TPGs didn't do that back then.... I guess the card would have been returned to Bill as "altered"

[frankbmd]

The cert begins with 111. Are they not up to 135 now in the 100 series?

I'll bet no.

[AndyG09]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

The cert begins with 111. Are they not up to 135 now in the 100 series?

I'll bet no.

Exactly what I was thinking Dr. Frank. That flip looks brutal.

Best,

Andy

[ullmandds]

SGC...IF YOU ARE READING THIS...AND YOU ARE PLANNING TO CHANGE YOUR FLIP...HIRE A GOOD GRAPHIC DESIGNER LIKE MY SISTER...DEBBIE ULLMAN...ullman.debbie@gmail.com.

[4815162342]

Why do flips still exist anyways? It's 2013, print it directly on the holder; it will save paper and prevent fraud.

[gnaz01]

SGC (the flip from the OP) = Some(other) Grading Company

[vintagebaseballcardguy]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

God I hope that's a joke...if they're switching to that lame flip...I'm going back to raw!!!!

I already have...

[CardTarget]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

Why do flips still exist anyways? It's 2013, print it directly on the holder; it will save paper and prevent fraud.

Better yet, for cards valued over $500 it should be etched into the holder. There are some amazing (and reasonably inexpensive) machining tools that could do this now and make it look really good.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

Why do flips still exist anyways? It's 2013, print it directly on the holder; it will save paper and prevent fraud.

Printing onto any of the plastics that are ok for long term storage is a lot harder than printing onto paper. And etching or melting the info in is possible but making that look good is very hard.

And it's not much paper at all.

Steve B

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by steve B

Printing onto any of the plastics that are ok for long term storage is a lot harder than printing onto paper. And etching or melting the info in is possible but making that look good is very hard.

And it's not much paper at all.

Steve B

It needs to be hard to do; that's the point!

[steve B]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

It needs to be hard to do; that's the point!

If someone were to decide to make an "ultimate" tamper proof slab it would be possible but very expensive.

With almost any product there's a balance between expense and what's currently technically possible. Some of what's being done with cars is technically amazing.(Porsche 918 claims 78MPG and the Nurbergring record for a production car )But the cost is just as amazing.

The best change to the flips I can think of would be making them a tamper evident sticker stuck to the inside of the slab. Like the ones that come apart revealing the words "void" or "damaged" The change to the slab would only be a way to isolate the sticker from the card since the adhesives aren't at all archival. Add a hologram, and/or maybe a QR code linking to a scan and it's tougher to alter.

That could be done without much added expense, and would be effective until someone found a way to beat it.

Steve B