Any opinions on this card being genuine?

[tbob]

I see some red flags with the snow white borders and color looking "öff" but I wondered if anyone else had an opinion? The bidding has been sporadic and the card is at around $250, a lot for a reprint but a tiny fraction of what this card is worth if real. Seller says absolutely no returns but believes it is genuine. Lots of red flags, although 100% feedback on ebay. Listing number 200965244817. Sorry I can't make links on my laptop. E95 Matty in CSA 8.5 holder. Looks NM.

[philliesfan]

My first thought at first glance is reprint but I am no expert.

Red Flags = probable fake.

Robert

[calvindog]

Bob, that's about as fake as fake can be.

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Bob, that's about as fake as fake can be.

Very much agree with Jeff! Isn't that the same grading company as the Cobb/Edwards Wagner??

[Paul S]

Bleh!! Love the "Matthewson" (sic)

Slow Sunday for you?

[buymycards]

Wouldn't you think if you were making a fake card you would at least spell his freaking name correctly?

Sincerely,

Baib Rooth.

[Mark]

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[kmac32]

Faker faker belly acher

[tbob]

Originally Posted by buymycards

Wouldn't you think if you were making a fake card you would at least spell his freaking name correctly?

Sincerely,

Baib Rooth.

Rick- The Matty E95 card has his name misspelled.

[conor912]

Originally Posted by tbob

Seller says absolutely no returns

One of the reddest of red flags.

[Bored5000]

The grade and the CSA holder would be enough to be a major red flag that something is very wrong. By comparison, PSA doesn't show any Matty E95's above a "7" in their population report, and that one sold for over $14K.

There are some deals to be found on eBay, but not 99 percent off what a card of an inner circle HoFer is worth.

[calvindog]

The card looks like a refrigerator magnet or a coaster for a drink.

[oldjudge]

I think it is a reprint. In the "Matthewson" the "w" seems to be below the "e" in the reprint and much less so, if at all, in the real card. Also, the comma appears different.

[nolemmings]

It looks to me like it glows in the dark.

[irishdenny]

Gentleman, Let me start by saying that I've seen this card before. imhistOp, the color's are all wrong, All of them. Matty's belt loops are way to dark which brings the color of his entire uniform into question.

"it's a CSA fake", & they should be ashamed of themselves for slabbing it!

But what to I know... I've been playing with Electrons for the past 35 years ;-)

[buymycards]

Hi tbob,
Sorry, I didn't know that. Oh well, that's not the first stupid post that I have made.

Thanks,
Rick

[ullmandds]

Is this what you'd call...a "senior" moment?

[chaddurbin]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Is this what you'd call...a "senior" moment?

tbob, you know better than this.

[Bored5000]

The auction also looks like it is getting shilled pretty severely. The current high bidder has 27 bid retractions in the past six months. There is also an underbidder with 11 bid retractions in the mix.

[nsaddict]

Current high bidder with 52% with this seller, also 8 bid retractions in last 30 days = mich_trader

[Leon]

Originally Posted by nsaddict

Current high bidder with 52% with this seller, also 8 bid retractions in last 30 days = mich_trader

I think someone is going to get burned on this one...here's the linky

http://www.ebay.com/itm/200965244817...817%26_rdc%3D1


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[Mark]

Originally Posted by Leon

I think someone is going to get burned on this one...here's the linky

http://www.ebay.com/itm/200965244817...817%26_rdc%3D1


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It's odd how the back of the card looks like a slightly worn e95 card might look. But the slightly worn back isn't consistent with the pristine front.

[ZachS]

Just looking at that card the height to length ratio looks "off". It looks too wide to be a real E95 unless the scan somehow stretched it.

Also, I'm thinking of flipping my E95 Matty SGC 10... it could probably be a CSA 3

[MW1]

It's an obvious reprint. There is zero chance of the card being authentic.

[jujudrum]

Obviously a reprint. It's not even close.

[jbbama]

unreal........ as in not real, not as in "man, thats unreal"

Surely no one will get duped by that????

[ZachS]

Originally Posted by jbbama

unreal........ As in not real, not as in "man, thats unreal"

surely no one will get duped by that????

$1100

[Leon]

$1091...and how fitting of a name for this seller!!


jams_vintage_cards


Looks like someone will really get jammed....


http://www.ebay.com/itm/200965244817...817%26_rdc%3D1


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[caramelcard]

They can always call CSA and get their money back. I hear they respond as well as GAI.

[chaddurbin]

Originally Posted by caramelcard

They can always call CSA and get their money back. I hear they respond as well as GAI.

it is monday.

[RCMcKenzie]

Son los cromos de beisbol del pantano negro, No?

[MW1]

Apparently, an image of an authentic E95 Mathewson was used but the card was a little short for the template for the copy/reprint so a little extra white border was addded at the top, which was a different shade from the original border color.

[auggiedoggy]

Originally Posted by jbbama

unreal........ as in not real, not as in "man, thats unreal"

Surely no one will get duped by that????

Well, looks like someone did get duped to the tune of $1,091.00.

Oh and don't call me Shirley.

p.s. That joke is a lot funnier when its not in textual form.

[Leon]

I am going to guess the seller didn't know what he was doing. But in looking at the auction again, isn't it kind of strange to have your picture (I assume it's the seller) as your avatar on ebay?

http://www.ebay.com/usr/jams_vintage_cards

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[tbob]

"We only sell high end cards and literally have never had a complaint about the cards we have sold."

They are about to get one
Wonder what ebay will do this? It clearly says in the guy's ad that all graded cards are absolutely no returns, selling as is, if something is wrong with the card, take it up with the grading company. Yet ebay will force a seller to return the money if something is counterfeit, fraud etc.
Guy's feedback is 100%...
This will be interesting to watch...

[egbeachley]

Since EBay doesn't seem to care about buyers making bid retractions, has anyone considered making a large bid that is shilled up and them making there own bid retraction right before the 12-hour limit? That way the shiller gets stuck paying the EBay fees.